Precipita Volo Air India diretto a Londra AI 171


Non so quanto sia attendibile, quindi cancellate se è fake
Fonte https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1G9puK8n3t/

So now we know what happened in India..... the 787's "points got wet"....
I am trying to find a second verification that this is fact. But the source has been accurate in the past. SO.... read but let time tell.

Flight: AI-171 | Aircraft: Boeing 787-8 | Date: June 25, 2025 | Route: Ahmedabad (VAAH) → London Heathrow (EGLL)
Crash Site: ~1.2 km from VAAH Runway 23, post-V1 and rotation
Fatalities: 247 (243 onboard + 4 ground)
Survivors: 0 onboard survivors (alternate to original), 3 injured on ground



🛠 AAIB Preliminary Report Highlights

1. Primary Cause – Electrical Power Transfer Interruption (PTI) During Rotation
• During transition from ground to airborne electrical configuration, the aircraft experienced a cascading dual-engine FADEC (Full Authority Digital Engine Control) failure.
• Root cause: Uncommanded bus transfer failure due to arcing in the main power relay box (PRB-A), traced to water ingress during pre-flight GPU disconnection in heavy rain.
• This led to loss of electronic engine control at rotation, resulting in both GEnx engines rolling back to ground idle within 4–5 seconds.

2. Flight Data Record Timeline
• +0:11 sec: Nose gear lifts off.
• +0:13 sec: Sudden engine rollback begins. Thrust reduces from 92% N1 to <27% within 3 seconds.
• +0:16 sec: Master caution + ENG FAIL L/R warnings. FO calls, “Both engines dropping!”
• +0:20 sec: Autopilot and flight control reverts to Direct Mode. Pitch up attitude peaks at 18°.
• +0:25 sec: Aircraft stalls at 186 ft AGL.
• +0:30 sec: Full aerodynamic stall; nose drops rapidly.
• +0:38 sec: Ground impact at 54° nose-down attitude, 174 knots.



⚙ Contributing Factors
• Environmental Conditions:
• Torrential rain during pushback.
• Moisture intrusion into PRB-A connector (P/N: HLN8471) — a known corrosion-risk component.
• Latent Maintenance Issue:
• Power transfer relay unit showed signs of thermal damage in a previous MEL deferral 2 weeks prior.
• No replacement had been conducted; aircraft was cleared under repetitive deferral.
• Design Oversight:
• Boeing 787 has no physical engine control backup (i.e., no direct mechanical linkage in FADEC loss scenario).
• Loss of power supply to both EEC channels resulted in engine “freeze” at ground idle instead of flameout.
• Flight Crew Response:
• Attempted engine relight sequence not completed before stall onset.
• Emergency power selector not activated — possibly due to confusion from multiple ECAM warnings.



✈ Immediate Safety Actions
• DGCA + EASA + FAA Emergency AD issued within 24 hours:
• Mandatory PRB-A moisture integrity inspection on all Boeing 787 aircraft.
• Temporary restriction on dispatch with MEL items related to power transfer systems.
• Boeing:
• Issued Service Bulletin SB-787-24-212 requiring replacement of PRB-A connectors with sealed versions.
• Exploring addition of dual-path power redundancy for FADEC systems.



🧠 Lessons Learned
• Over-reliance on electrical power distribution architecture without layered redundancy.
• Lack of crew procedural training for full engine rollback during takeoff in EEC dual failure scenarios.
• Need for improved environmental sealing in GPU/electrical handover units in monsoon zones.
E' già stato pubblicato e poi cancellato in quanto notizia falsa.
 
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Le scatole nere andranno in America per ulteriori analisi in quanto gravemente danneggiate. Per fortuna che il capitano amico del cuggino della sorella del parrucchiere del capitano del volo aveva gia' sentito tutto.

 
Le scatole nere andranno in America per ulteriori analisi in quanto gravemente danneggiate. Per fortuna che il capitano amico del cuggino della sorella del parrucchiere del capitano del volo aveva gia' sentito tutto.

Possibile però che le comunicazioni uscite siano arrivate tramite registratori della torre (parlo del mayday).
 
Che vadano in avaria entrambi i motori è veramente inquetante.. A questo punti mi aspetto veramente di tutto.. La scatole nere devono essere spedite in USA a NTSB per essere analizzate?
 
Il 787 ha 5 serbatoi:
Left main
Right main
Center
2 Surge tanks (1 per semiala).
E' una configurazione simile a molti aerei di questo tipo.
Gli aerei, per motivi di carico alare, consumano sempre prima il carburante nel Center tank e poi quello nelle ali, il carburante viene pompato dai serbatoi ai motori con 2 AC Pumps per serbatoio, ciascuna pompa è in grado alimentare un motore a take-off power.
In caso di perdita delle pompe, i motori sono in grado di alimentarsi attraverso la suction line.

Questo semplificando dal manuale del 787 che ho recuperato.
Acshually 🤓 i surge tank su qualsiasi aereo sono vuoti, sono solo 3 i serbatoi che portano il carburante in questo caso
 
Le scatole nere andranno in America per ulteriori analisi in quanto gravemente danneggiate. Per fortuna che il capitano amico del cuggino della sorella del parrucchiere del capitano del volo aveva gia' sentito tutto.

Pare che non ci si possa fidare di alcun rumor in merito a questo disastro...

da avherald.com:
On Jun 19th 2025 India's Government stated that no decision has yet been reached where the Blackbox will be read out in reaction to media reports in India, that the black box might be send to the US for repair and analysis of the black box that had been damaged due to post crash fire so that data download in India wasn't possible.
 
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il senso di responsabilita' e' andato ormai a farsi fottere, a favore di qualche squallido like su tik tok...

Come anticipavo nel mio post sopra, stiamo parlando di una cultura Indiana dove, soprattutto negli ambienti lavorativi, tutti cercano di essere sempre una spanna superiori agli altri ed essere sempre "er mejo". Peccato che talvolta per esserlo, si infrangano un sacco di regole e la privacy.
Purtroppo cosi facendo, stanno mettendo in gioco la credibilità di un paese e dell'investigazione fatta da quel paese.
 
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On Jun 20th 2025 government officials stated, that India's AAIB is currently looking into another case of dual engine problems with an A321 that happened in London Gatwick in 2020, see: Incident: Titan A321 at London on Feb 26th 2020, left engine surged, engine stall indications for right engine, that was caused by fuel contamination. It appears on preliminary findings, that there was no error in the cockpit, it appears that as soon as the flight became airborne the power failure occurred leaving the aircraft unable to climb to a safe altitude.
 
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On Jun 20th 2025 government officials stated, that India's AAIB is currently looking into another case of dual engine problems with an A321 that happened in London Gatwick in 2020, see: Incident: Titan A321 at London on Feb 26th 2020, left engine surged, engine stall indications for right engine, that was caused by fuel contamination. It appears on preliminary findings, that there was no error in the cockpit, it appears that as soon as the flight became airborne the power failure occurred leaving the aircraft unable to climb to a safe altitude.
Non capisco il senso di paragonare questi due incidenti. Nel caso di Titan, comunque, la fuel contamination non è derivata dal fuel system dell'aeroporto, ma da un trattamento del sistema dei serbatoi dell'aereo.

Sembra solo a me, ma in ogni comunicato (o a quanto pare gossip, perché di questo si tratta senza che venga diramato un comunicato ufficiale, e mi stupisco molto di AVH, che ultimamente si lascia andare molto a queste info date da "officials") si sta cercando di trovare una causa totalmente esterna a AI, ai piloti o a maintenance? Già in due di questi "comunicati" leggo: "It appears on preliminary findings, that there was no error in the cockpit" e "It is becoming gradually clear from the newly emerging evidence that there was probably zero negligence in the cockpit, the crew did not give up until the very last moment."

Non capisco il senso di questa insistenza. Lungi da me dire: sicuro sono stati i piloti, ma senza aver analizzato nessuna scatola nera, ma come si fa a parlare?