Thread A350 XWB


Pelush ha detto:
credo che il 787 abbia aperto un nuovo mercato, alla fine e' un LR che porta tanti pax come un MR, mentre il 350 porta più passeggeri, ma soprattutto, più cargo.
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A parte che non si capisce cosa c'entri questo con lo svolgimento della discussione, ma questa ora me la spieghi, a partire dal cargo:

788: 28 LD3 o 9 pallet 88x125
358: 28 LD3 o 9 pallet

789: 36 LD3 o 11 pallet 88x125
359: 36 LD3 o 11 pallet

781: 40 LD3 o 13 pallet
351: 44 LD3 o 14 pallet

Se Wikipedia riporta i dati correttamente, mi pare che solo il 350-1000, il concorrente del quale, peraltro, è nella serie 777X e non in quella 787, abbia capacità cargo superiore.
Sul fronte passeggeri, anche se la serie 350 è più capiente, non mi sembra che differenza sia tale da comparare il 787 ad aerei (quali?) MR?
 
kenadams ha detto:
A parte che non si capisce cosa c'entri questo con lo svolgimento della discussione, ma questa ora me la spieghi, a partire dal cargo:

788: 28 LD3 o 9 pallet 88x125
358: 28 LD3 o 9 pallet

789: 36 LD3 o 11 pallet 88x125
359: 36 LD3 o 11 pallet

781: 40 LD3 o 13 pallet
351: 44 LD3 o 14 pallet

Se Wikipedia riporta i dati correttamente, mi pare che solo il 350-1000, il concorrente del quale, peraltro, è nella serie 777X e non in quella 787, abbia capacità cargo superiore.
Sul fronte passeggeri, anche se la serie 350 è più capiente, non mi sembra che differenza sia tale da comparare il 787 ad aerei (quali?) MR?
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Che pallet sono gli 88x125? (Pollici?)
La misura standard di pallet sia LD che MD è 244x317 (cm) --> PMC
Inoltre la capacità di trasporto cargo dipende anche molto dalla configurazione utilizzata.
Ad esempio, nel B772 (Non il LR ma il ER) può caricare pallet solo nel FWD compartment rendendolo estremamente Nose Heavy con la possibilità quindi di dover lasciare unità a terra per via del bilanciamento.
Airbus (Che io sappia) per tutti i modelli di WB in esercizio può caricare unità con base PMC sia nel AFT che nel FWD compartment; immagino sarà così anche per tutte le serie A350.
Non ho idea sul 787.
 
kenadams ha detto:
Un A350 è al freddo in Canada settentrionale: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/a350-heads-to-canada-for-cold-weather-tests-395203/
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Tests completati

The Airbus A350 XWB has completed cold weather trials at Iqaluit, Canada.

Development aircraft MSN3 operated in temperatures reaching down to -28°C/-18F. The scope of the trials included: APU and engine starts after cold soak; verifying system behavior; low-speed taxi and rejected take-offs. The aircraft also performed a local flight as planned.

This latest phase of the development test program comes days after MSN3’s completion of the high altitude tests in Bolivia.

Since the A350 XWB’s first flight with MSN1 on June 14, over 900 flight test hours have been performed in close to 200 test flights by both MSN1 and MSN3, Airbus said.

In total the A350 XWB flight test campaign will accumulate around 2,500 flight hours with the fleet of five aircraft. The flight testing will lead to the certification of the A350-900 by the EASA and FAA airworthiness authorities, before entry into service in the first quarter of 2014. Qatar Airways is the launch customer.

MSN3 is scheduled to be in Singapore in mid-February, where it will take part in the flying display at the Singapore Air Show and be in the static display.

http://atwonline.com/airframes/airb...m&YM_MID=1446641&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_5_4
 
Airbus to fly A350 XWB at Singapore Air Show

Airbus has confirmed it will take the A350 XWB to February’s Singapore Air Show, giving the new aircraft its first full display at an international air show.

The flight test aircraft MSN3 will be at the show for the first two days, Feb. 11 and 13, when it will take part in the flying display on both days as well as be in the static display.

Airbus says the A350 XWB is at an advanced phase of its flight test program, with entry into commercial service scheduled for the fourth quarter of this year.

Airbus president and CEO Fabrice Brégier said, “The Asia-Pacific region is the fastest growing market for the air transport industry and will drive future demand for widebody aircraft in all seat categories. The A350 XWB will set new standards in the mid-size category.”

The A350, aircraft MSN1, did a flypast at the Paris Air Show in June, just days after its maiden flight from Airbus’ Toulouse base.

Airbus has so far secured 244 firm orders for the aircraft from the Asia-Pacific region, representing 30% of total A350 XWB sales to date. Regional carriers that have ordered the aircraft include AirAsia X, Air China, Asiana Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, China Airlines, Hong Kong Airlines, Japan Airlines, Singapore Airlines, SriLankan Airlines, Thai Airways International and Vietnam Airlines.

To date, a total of 812 A350 XWBs have been ordered by 39 customers worldwide.

http://atwonline.com/airframes/airbus-fly-a350-xwb-singapore-air-show
 
L’Airbus A350 XWB MSN3 porta a termine i test a temperature estreme in Canada
L’Airbus A350 XWB MSN3 adibito ai test, insieme a un team di 48 esperti di Airbus, ha completato con successo i test effettuati a temperature estreme a Iqaluit, in Canada, dove la temperatura ha raggiunto i -28°C. I test avevano come scopo quello di verificare il comportamento dell’aeromobile in una serie di condizioni quali l’accensione dell’APU e dei motori dopo il decollo, la verifica del sistema di bordo, il rullaggio a bassa velocità e l’RTO, il decollo abortito. Come da programma, l’A350 XWB MSN3 ha anche eseguito un breve volo locale. Quest’ultima fase del programma di sviluppo e test dell’aeromobile è avvenuta pochi giorni dopo che l’MSN3 ha completato i test ad alta quota in Bolivia. Dal primo volo dell’Airbus A350 XWB MSN1 avvenuto lo scorso 14 giugno 2013, l’MSN1 e l’MSN3 hanno portato a termine oltre 900 ore di prove di volo in quasi 200 test di volo. Con una flotta di 5 aeromobili adibiti ai test, la campagna test di volo dell’A350 XWB accumulerà complessivamente circa 2.500 ore di volo. Questa rigorosa serie di test di volo porterà l’A350-900 al conseguimento della certificazione EASA e FAA, prima dell’entrata in servizio prevista per il quarto trimestre del 2014.
 
Cathay Pacific orders L-3 Link simulators for A350 training

Cathay Pacific Airways has awarded L-3 Link Simulation & Training a contract for two Airbus A350 full-flight simulators (FFS) plus trainers, marking Link’s first order for A350 products.

The FFSs and two pilot transition trainers plus a number of flight management system trainers will be installed at Cathay’s flight training center in Hong Kong and become operational during the third quarter of 2015 to support A350 fleet introduction the following year.

Cathay has 46 A350s on order, a mix of -900 and -1000 variants.

The trainers will be based on L-3 Link’s RealitySeven simulation architecture. The FFSs will be equipped with Link’s eM2K motion system.

http://atwonline.com/training/catha...m&YM_MID=1447129&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_4_2
 
Bello aggressivo il 350 con la livrea ibrida Airbus/Qatar!

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Alla fine la versione 800 non vedrà la luce secondo me, quindi in base alle esigenze di chi lo ha ordinato si vedranno cancellazioni, conversioni ecc... per spuntare da Airbus le migliori condizioni.
 
Airbus A350 performs Singapore Airshow flying display


irbus A350 XWB flight test aircraft MSN3 has performed a flying display at the Singapore Airshow, the first of two flights it will conduct over the show this week.

As MSN3 flew to Singapore, arriving on Feb. 11, it passed the first 1,000 flight test hours for the A350 program since first flight with MSN1 on June 14, according to Airbus. The manufacturer plans 2,500 fight test hours in the A350 flight test program, which is expected to last a total of just over one year.

“Currently, two A350 XWB flight test aircraft are flying, MSN1 and MSN3,” Airbus stated. “Both aircraft are fitted with heavy test instrumentation and are successfully carrying out performance and systems evaluations in extreme environmental conditions and are starting certification testing. MSN2 and MSN5 will be fitted with cabins, and will carry out the early long flights and route proving flights later this year. MSN4 will be fitted with light flight test instrumentation and will perform external noise and lightning tests, avionics development and certification testing. This aircraft will also be used to start the training for first customer pilots and maintenance teams.”

http://atwonline.com/airframes/airb...com&YM_MID=1449485&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_3
 
Raddoppia la flotta per i test di volo dell’A350XWB
L’MSN2 e l’MSN4 compiono il loro primo volo nello stesso giornoGli aeromobili A350XWB adibiti ai test di volo MSN2 e MSN4 hanno entrambi preso il volo ieri nel cielo sopra Tolosa per il loro battesimo dell’aria, portando da due a quattro il totale di aeromobili A350XWB attualmente in volo. A oggi i primi due A350XWB adibiti ai test di volo, l’MSN1 e l’MSN3 hanno già al loro attivo quasi 1.100 ore di volo sulle 2.500 necessarie alla certificazione del programma.L’MSN2, con la sua particolare livrea ispirata al carbonio, sarà il primo A350XWB ad avere una cabina passeggeri. Questo consentirà ad Airbus di iniziare a effettuare i test e a verificare i sistemi collegati alla cabina e ai passeggeri. Nell’ambito dei test di cabina, l’MSN2 sarà il primo a trasportare dei passeggeri di un A350 XWB, durante i primi voli a lungo raggio (Early Long Flights) che avranno luogo in primavera.L’MSN4, invece, ha sia i colori di Qatar Airways – il cliente di lancio dell’A350XWB – che quelli di Airbus. L’MSN4 sarà equipaggiato con la strumentazione per i test di volo e, fra le altre attività, sarà utilizzato per le certificazioni collegate all’inviluppo di volo e alle misurazioni delle emissioni acustiche esterne.La flotta per i test dell’A350XWB sarà al completo una volta che, in primavera, si sarà unito il quinto aeromobile, l’MSN5, che sarà utilizzato per la certificazione finale. Ulteriore materiale fotografico è a disponibile a questi indirizzi:www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressroom/high-res-photos www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressroom/broadcastroom
 
Problemi di costi per l'A350
(da Aviation Week)
February 26, 2014
Airbus Group is taking a €434 million extraordinary charge in its 2013 results for the A350 program as the company struggles with higher than expected recurring costs for the new widebody aircraft.

CEO Tom Enders says he cannot guarantee that the charge will be the last related to the aircraft. He admits that “it is a sizeable charge”, but stresses that the A350 will “still be a competitive program.”

“We continue to make progress on the A350,” Chief Financial Officer Harald Wilhelm said at the Airbus Group annual press conference in Toulouse on Wednesday.

Airbus also met its target of putting MSN002 and MSN004—the third and fourth A350 test aircraft—into the air before the end of February. MSN002 flew this morning, and MSN004 followed in the afternoon. MSN002 is the first A350 with a full passenger cabin installed.

However, Wilhelm highlights that while flight test are going well the challenges of industrial ramp-up are beginning to kick in and more supplier issues are emerging. “We are stepping up the industrial ramp-up”, says Wilhelm. That process is resulting in “higher costs” than expected. A bottom-up review of the A350 has shown that the actual recurring costs of producing the aircraft are higher than forecast.

According to Wilhelm, additional work for late design modifications are to blame partly, but he also pointed at “some manufacturing disruption” at Premium Aerotec. He concedes that the manufacturing processes at Premium Aerotec “are not completely robust” and “deep industrial restructuring is needed.” The Airbus Group subsidiary, based in Augsburg/Germany, builds the A350’s fuselage section 13/14 and the panels for section 17/18.

Premium Aerotec is battling with the difficulties of transitioning to a new technology and setting up corporate structures at the same time. But like other A350 suppliers, it has a steep ramp-up in front of it. According to industry sources, Premium Aerotec is due to deliver 20 shipsets in 2014, 43 in 2015, 82 in 2016, 116 in 2017 and 139 in 2018. That reflects Airbus’ targets to raise A350 output to two units per month by the end of this year and gradually going up to ten per month by 2018. The 139 shipsets targeted for 2018 seems to indicate that A350 production could go beyond the ten per month goal in 2019, although Airbus has not mentioned that option before.

Airbus is introducing the A350 in three batches. Batch 1 includes the first four test aircraft, batch 2 spans from MSN005 to MSN20. The most significant changes to the aircraft are made as a result from batch 2 to 3. Many of them are related to the cabin, but wing components and structural parts of the fuselage are also affected. Most of the cabin work is being performed by Diehl Aerosystems.

Airbus confirmed the plan to deliver the first A350-900 before the end of this year to Qatar Airways. The company is also about to meet its target of bringing MSN002 and MSN004, the third and fourth test aircraft, in the air before the end of February. MSN002 was expected to fly on the morning of Feb. 26 with MSN004 following in the afternoon. MSN002 is also the first A350 with a full passenger cabin installed.
 
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