News A320neo


sarebbe ora che arrivasse una buona concorrenza a GE.. dopo il monopolio di PW con il JT8 negli anni sessanta-settanta, GE ha quasi monopolizzato il mercato; speriamo che la "execution" non somigli a quella del PW600..
 
Ci vorrano treni di rupie per pagar tutti i ordini fatti dal IndiGo ma mi sa a mi che prima che si fanno
le consegne avra cambiato el nome in IndiGone!
 
Ci vorrano treni di rupie per pagar tutti i ordini fatti dal IndiGo ma mi sa a mi che prima che si fanno
le consegne avra cambiato el nome in IndiGone!

Per fortuna per P&W non c'è solo Indigo.

Finora sono stati ordinati 332 A320neo e A321neo, di cui

- con PW1100G:
ILFC - 60
Indigo - 150
Lufthansa - 30

- con Leap-X: nessuno

- con scelta da confermare:
ILFC - 40
TAM - 22
Virgin America - 30
 
Va be dai è poco più grande della flotta NB di AZ... e tenendo conto che in india sono un qualche centinaio di milioni non mi sembra un ordine cosi esagerato anzi!
 
Introduzione A320neo anticipata ad ottobre 2015

Qualche aggiornamento di oggi riguardo al A320neo

- l'entrata in servizio è ora prevista per il mese di ottobre 2015 invece del II trim 2016
- il primo motore disponibile sarà il PW1100G, il Leap-X seguirà 9 mesi dopo
- prima versione disponibile sarà l'A320neo, seguito 6 mesi dopo dall'A319neo; l'A321neo seguirà 6 mesi dopo ancora (è stato invertito l'ordine di A319neo e A321neo rispetto ai primi piani)
- verranno effettuati i test con 4 A320neo (2 PW1100G e 2 Leap-X), 2 A319neo e 2 A321neo
- non si conosce ancora il primo operatore
- entro le Bourget, John Leahy prevede di averne venduto 500, ci sarebbe anche un secondo cliente sudamericano oltre a TAM

Fonti: http://www.flightglobal.com/article...-advances-to-2015-with-pw-as-lead-engine.html e http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blog...847&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nella stessa conferenza stampa JL avrebbe fatto capire che non prevede la sostituzione dell'A320 prima degli anni 30 e che in totale entro tale epoca Airbus avrà venduto 12000 A320

Pi

PS: se un amministratore può modificare gentilmente il titolo del 3d in "Notizie su A320neo" possiamo tenere insieme qui gli aggiornamenti?
 
Dopo ILFC, Indigo adesso LH. Per il momento nessuno ha selezionato il Leap-X

Il geared turbofan rappresenta un cambiamento generazionale importante - dubbi principali: affidabilità e costi di manutenzione - mentre il Leap-X è praticamente solo un'evoluzione dei CFM attualmente in uso: con la pressione data dal costo del petrolio che continua a salire è naturale che i vettori siano più attratti da soluzioni nuove che promettono risparmi notevoli sui consumi.
 
il sito "fleetbuzz" e' diventato agibile solo con password; purtroppo non posso leggere l' articolo che titola: "A320 NEO to be scrapped?" qualcuno ha l' accesso?
l' autore sembra il Mourigno dell' aviazione civile, se la tira da pazzi, ma e' comunque ineteressante..
 
GoAir may place order at Paris Air Show

Rumour su possibile nuovo ordine per A320neo (lo posto qui per non aprire un nuovo thread):

GoAir may place order at Paris Air Show
The airline has been unable to fly overseas as it doesn’t fulfil the criterion of having a fleet of at least 20 planes
Tarun Shukla, tarun.s@livemint.com
New Delhi

Wadia group-owned low-cost airline GoAir (India) Pvt. Ltd is in talks with European aircraft maker Airbus SAS to place a fresh order for Airbus A320 aircraft at the Paris Air Show that starts on 20 June.

If the order materializes, it would be the second such by an Indian carrier this year after InterGlobe Aviation Pvt. Ltd-run IndiGo ordered a record 180 aircraft worth $15 billion (Rs.67,800 crore) in January to meet its expansion plans till 2025.

GoAir, currently the smallest passenger airline in the country, may also become the second Indian carrier to order the fuel-efficient A320neo, which will make its debut this decade.

The six-year-old discount carrier is planning to place an order for A320neo aircraft to drive expansion plans and the details of the order are currently being worked out, said a person familiar with the matter who declined to be identified.

GoAir could place an order for anywhere up to 50-70 aircraft, which may include several options, this official said. Airlines usually place an order with options, which they can later firm up. It’s last order was in 2006 for 10 Airbus A320 aircraft.

GoAir said it will make an announcement shortly, without specifying further details.

“We will have a press briefing in first or second week of June,” said GoAir chief executive officer Kaushik Khona.

A second person familiar with the matter said the airline was studying its “requirements” and could look at an announcement at the Paris Airshow. He, too, declined to be named.

The Mumbai-based carrier runs a fleet of 10 A320 aircraft currently, with 6.4% of the domestic market share. Its rival IndiGo, which started a year before GoAir, now controls a 19.7% market share with a fleet of 39 aircraft, while SpiceJet has 29 aircraft controlling a 13.4% market share.

All the domestic carriers in the Indian market have been able to go international barring GoAir, which despite meeting the five-year domestic flying experience falls short of the criterion of having a fleet of at least 20 aircraft.

The airline has been in a restructuring mode this year. As a part of that restructuring, Khona is returning to the parent Wadia group where he came from, he said.

Giorgio De Roni, a former chief revenue officer at Italian low-cost carrier Air One SpA, which runs a fleet of fiveA320 aircraft, is transitioning into the new role of chief executive. GoAir has also redesigned its website and launched its presence on social media sites Twitter and Facebook recently.

Consulting firm Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation in its 2011 outlook expects GoAir to hit the bourses with an initial public offering in 2011-12 to raise funds and buy aircraft.

Besides GoAir, IndiGo’s 180 aircraft Airbus order could also be firmed up at the Paris Air Show, sales chief John Leahy said on last week. “I think we will have the IndiGo order finalized and announced by the Paris Air Show,” he said.

In the midst of the global economic crisis in 2009, the only Indian carrier to announce an order at that year’s Paris Air Show at Le Bourget Airport was Chennai-based Paramount Airways Pvt. Ltd.

The carrier, which closed operations in 2010, had signed an agreement buy 10 Airbus A321 passenger jets and an option to buy 10 more. The order does not figure in the official Airbus aircraft order book of 2011.

Reuters contributed to this story.

PS: qualcuno dei moderatori può modificare il titolo del thread in "News A320neo". Così teniamo tutte le news insieme.
 
SAS leans towards A320neo but would prefer all-new narrowbody

Certo che, se un cliente B737 decide di acquistare l'A320neo, Boeing dovrà reagire...

SAS leans towards A320neo but would prefer all-new narrowbody

By Kerry Reals on June 2, 2011 3:36 PM

Yesterday I had the pleasure of meeting SAS Group environmental director Lars Andersen Resare for coffee in Mayfair.

We talked about lots of things, including SAS' aim to enter into some kind of agreement with a biofuel supplier ("We're looking at a couple of suppliers," said Resare, declining to elaborate).

I asked him why SAS was still flying around in gas-guzzling old MD-80s if it was so concerned about the environment, and he talked about the carrier's fleet renewal plan.

Here's what he had to say about the A320neo versus whatever Boeing has up its sleeve in terms of a narrowbody replacement. The story is on our premium channels but if you read this blog you get it pasted below for free!

SAS leans towards A320neo but keeps close eye on Boeing
Kerry Reals, London (02Jun11, 14:23 GMT, 198 words)

SAS Group would prefer to see an all-new narrowbody from Boeing, but time constraints are leading the carrier to lean towards the re-engined Airbus A320neo as a more likely option for its fleet renewal programme.

Speaking to ATI during an interview in London on 1 June, SAS environmental director Lars Andersen Resare said the carrier is following Boeing's narrowbody replacement plans "very closely" and "would prefer to see an all-new aircraft from an environmental perspective".

However, he added that with Boeing yet to unveil its plans it is "getting late for us", therefore, "being realistic, the neo is taking us further".

SAS in April 2011 outlined plans to lease up to 17 Boeing 737-700/800 aircraft and take additional A320s to replace its fleet of Boeing MD-80s. There has been no final decision on the number of A320s to be acquired.

Resare described this move as a short- to medium-term solution, adding that for the longer term SAS is looking at the A320neo and has not ruled out the Bombardier CSeries.

"The leases are not that long and we need something better and newer," he said, adding that a decision will be made "during this year".

Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
 
La flotta narrow body di SAS vede 77 B737 contro 12 A32S. Nello specifico:

28 B736
19 B73G
20 B738
3 B734
7 B735
4 A319
8 A321

Da sottolineare che molti B737 sono provenienza ex Braathens e non ordine diretto.

Inoltre la flotta MDD resiste con 26 macchine, divise in 9 M81, 14 M82 e 3 M87.

Nel complesso si tratta di 115 macchine, anche se un ordine per un nuovo aereo, indipendentemente che sia A320NEO o nuovo NB Boeing, date le dimensioni delle macchine e del mercato Scandinavo, a mio avviso sarà sui 70/80 esemplari e poi credo faranno un sostanzioso ordine per un aereo della classe regional da 100 posti.
 
Il geared turbofan rappresenta un cambiamento generazionale importante

Se non ricordo male il Lycoming ALF-502 del 1980, è un geared-turbofan, dov'è il cambiamento generazionale?
:cool:


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Finora sono stati ordinati 332 A320neo e A321neo, di cui

- con PW1100G:
ILFC - 60
Indigo - 150
Lufthansa - 30

- con Leap-X: nessuno

- con scelta da confermare:
ILFC - 40
TAM - 22
Virgin America - 30

Finalmente sembra che anche CFM stia preparando qualche annuncio per Parigi:

CFM prepares to unveil Leap-X customers
By David Kaminski-Morrow

CFM International is preparing to detail orders for its Leap-X turbofan, which has yet to receive its first customer for the Airbus A320neo platform.
Virgin America and US lessor International Lease Finance (ILFC) have combined firm orders for 70 A320neo-family aircraft but an engine selection for the jets has yet to be made.
ILFC, which has 100 A320neo-family jets on order, has already chosen the Pratt & Whitney PW1100G for 60 of them but has been holding discussions with CFM to put the Leap-X engine on the other 40.
"We will be announcing several Leap orders in the next few weeks - possibly leading up to, and certainly during, the Paris air show," said CFM, but declined to identify customers or confirm the airframe involved. A variant of its Leap-X engine will also power the Chinese-built Comac C919.
The ILFC order, formally listed on 27 April, covers 75 A320neo and 25 A321neo aircraft. Virgin America ordered 60 A320s in December last year, of which 30 will be A320neos.
Three other customers - India's IndiGo, Lufthansa and TAM - have yet to firm their orders for the re-engined aircraft.
But IndiGo has committed to fitting the PW1100G on all 150 A320neos in its planned order while Lufthansa has opted for the engine for its 25 A320neos and five A321neos.
This means Pratt & Whitney has secured agreements to power 240 of the 332 A320neo aircraft which customers have so far agreed - tentatively and firmly - to acquire.
Brazilian carrier TAM has neither firmed its selection of 22 A320neos nor indicated a powerplant choice.

Link:http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/06/04/357571/cfm-prepares-to-unveil-leap-x-customers.html
 
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Airbus Expects to Get Boeing Customer to Switch to A320neo

Con il rischio di entrare nel territorio della speculazione riporto questo articolo da Bloomberg. Parigi sarà molto interessante quest'anno...

Airbus Expects to Get Boeing Customer to Switch to A320neo

By Andrea Rothman and Liza Tan - Jun 7, 2011 12:03 AM GMT+0200

Airbus SAS may announce its first order for the A320neo this month from an airline that operates Boeing Co. (BA) 737s, signaling the European company is making inroads into rival territory with its upgraded single-aisle jet.
All orders or commitments for the jet, to enter service from late 2015, have so far been from leasing firms, which buy a broad mix of planes, or airlines that buy from Airbus. Winning an operator of Boeing’s “Next Generation” 737s would illustrate Airbus’s ability to pull business from customers not firmly loyal to the Toulouse, France-based company.
“We’re talking to a few customers who now fly the 737NG about the Neo and I’d be very surprised if we don’t have at least one announcement from an airline currently operating the Boeing NG,” Christopher Buckley, Airbus’s executive vice president for Europe, Asia and Pacific, said in an interview in Singapore today.
Since it began offering airlines the A320 series planes equipped with new engines, Airbus has already won 332 orders and commitments and expects to complete the Paris Air show later this month with more than 500 orders for the series, Buckley said at the annual general meeting of the International Air Transport Association.
Boeing declined to comment today. The Chicago-based company has said it prefers to develop an all-new single-aisle model that would be available by 2020, though it may offer a new engine for the 737 in the middle of the decade as an interim step if the new plane would take longer than expected.
‘Cost of Switching’
“There’s a very high cost of switching” a fleet from one manufacturer’s jets to another, Boeing Commercial Airplanes President Jim Albaugh said in a May 24 presentation in Seattle. “I really don’t think that we’re going to see too many customers really think about switching to a different type of airplane any time soon.”
The Boeing 737 NG, which stands for Next Generation, entered service in 2000, replacing older variants known as 737 Classics. The A320 and the 737 are the most commonly used aircraft by airlines, and they generate the bulk of orders for their manufacturers.
Airbus is also optimistic about additional orders for the double-decker A380, the world’s largest passenger jet, the executive said. The planemaker won SkyMark of Japan, which ordered four, and South Korea’s Asiana Airlines (020560), which ordered six, as new customers for the A380 this year. Both carriers will use the planes to challenge leaders in their home markets.
‘Good Start’
“After that good start, we’re now optimistic we will be able to add a new customer, our third for the year, hopefully in the next couple of months,” Buckley said. “We think this will be a good year for the A380, and I think the feedback both from our current customers and from the passengers as well remains fantastic.”
Over the longer term, Airbus expects to win customers for the superjumbo in the U.S. market, he said. So far sales have been largely in Asia and Europe.
“I don’t think it will happen tomorrow, but we’ve seen some interest,” Buckley said.

Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...t-first-a320neo-order-from-boeing-client.html