Drone su Gatwick, tutte le operazioni sospese.
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Concordo in pieno. E non si tratta solo di risposta efficiente. Si tratta soprattutto di presidio del territorio, di sinergie con il contesto sociale, della capacità di "esprimere" il controllo.
Per fare un esempio pratico: due poliziotti fissi presidiano un'area ristretta; gli stessi due poliziotti che camminano espandono l'area di "espressione" del controllo di diverse volte.
Concordo. Andando OT, è quest'idea di 'presidio' che sta venendo a mancare da queste parti.
Sinceramente mi sembra che il problema non sia il presidio del territorio, ma localizzare il drone e/o il suo controllore.
Questa situazione è (nella sua tragicità) affascinante.
Un effetto così dirompente con mezzi così piccoli... e con tutta questa risonanza mediatica, mi sa che potrebbe dare spunto ad altri "simpaticoni" in giro per il mondo, nel prossimo futuro.
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Un effetto così dirompente con mezzi così piccoli... e con tutta questa risonanza mediatica, mi sa che potrebbe dare spunto ad altri "simpaticoni" in giro per il mondo, nel prossimo futuro.
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Quoto — ed aggiungo che, come sempre in casi del genere dove l’impatto mediatico è dirompente, il rischio anche solo di false segnalazioni con relativi disagi nei giorni/settimane post-evento diventa purtroppo molto concreto.
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Un intero sistema aeroportuale ostaggio di un drone. Comunque, se chi lo manovra fosse un terrorista avrebbe sicuramente cercato di far danni durante un decollo o un atterraggio, mentre qui invece siamo alle prese con uno zuzzurellone. Spero che lo prendano il prima possibile.
Pare che i due arrestati non centrino niente.
https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/20...ick_rilasciata_la_coppia_arrestata-214959996/
https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/20...ick_rilasciata_la_coppia_arrestata-214959996/
Gatwick police say they cannot discount possibility there was no drone
'We are working with human beings saying they have seen something'
Peter Stubley
Detectives investigating the Gatwick drone attacks which caused three days of chaos for passengers say it is possible there never were any drones.
Police do not have any footage of the flying machines at the airfield and are relying on accounts from witnesses and the discovery of a damaged device.
The revelation by Detective Chief Superintendent Jason Tingley came after the couple arrested by Sussex Police on Friday night were released without charge.
Asked about speculation there never was a drone, he said: “Of course, that’s a possibility. We are working with human beings saying they have seen something.
“Until we’ve got more clarity around what they’ve said, the detail – the time, place, direction of travel, all those types of things – and that’s a big task.”
Mr Tingley said one of the “working theories” was that the damaged drone found close to the airport in Sussex was responsible for causing the disruption.
Couple arrested over Gatwick drone chaos released without charge
“Always look at it with an open mind, but actually it’s very basic common sense that a damaged drone, which may have not been there at a particular point in time has now been seen by an occupier, a member of the public, and then they’ve told us, ‘we’ve found this’.
“Then we go and forensically recover it and do everything we can at that location to try and get a bit more information.”
The detective said the arrests made on Friday night were the result of a tip-off from a member of the public.
“I’m completely satisfied the arrests were lawful, bearing in mind the burden of proof and likely suspicion at the time of arrest,” he said.
“Obviously we had to be sure prior to release, in terms of that investigation, they were no longer suspects.”
Mr Tingley added: “I won’t apologise, but what I will say is we really do appreciate their co-operation and we have put a lot of effort and resources into supporting them when they were released from questioning.”
Police are working through information relating to “persons of interest”, investigating more than 67 drone sightings and forensically examining the damaged drone.
Mr Tingley said he could not rule out the risk the culprits would strike again at Gatwick or another airport, but added he hoped someone would come forward with the vital clue.
He insisted the investigation was not “back to square one” and added: “We have a number of lines of enquiry and persons of interest. We are still progressing those lines of enquiry, including house-to-house enquiries around the sightings of the drone.”
Gatwick Airport has offered a £50,000 reward through Crimestoppers for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible for the chaos.
Around 1,000 flights were cancelled or diverted after drones were spotted inside the perimeter of the UK’s second biggest airport on Wednesday and approximately 140,000 passengers were affected over a three day period.
Labour has called for an independent inquiry after accusing the government of failing to act on the risks posed by drones at Gatwick.
Shadow transport secretary Andy McDonald claimed there were missed opportunities to prevent the airport from coming under such an attack.
“The government was repeatedly warned about the risks posed by drones to aviation but failed to act,” he said.
Additional reporting by Press Association
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...Bq6citmeKvNkrA5KUbPA6QchEJSuYjXwCZMoUN_Y2BRXM
'We are working with human beings saying they have seen something'
Peter Stubley
Detectives investigating the Gatwick drone attacks which caused three days of chaos for passengers say it is possible there never were any drones.
Police do not have any footage of the flying machines at the airfield and are relying on accounts from witnesses and the discovery of a damaged device.
The revelation by Detective Chief Superintendent Jason Tingley came after the couple arrested by Sussex Police on Friday night were released without charge.
Asked about speculation there never was a drone, he said: “Of course, that’s a possibility. We are working with human beings saying they have seen something.
“Until we’ve got more clarity around what they’ve said, the detail – the time, place, direction of travel, all those types of things – and that’s a big task.”
Mr Tingley said one of the “working theories” was that the damaged drone found close to the airport in Sussex was responsible for causing the disruption.
Couple arrested over Gatwick drone chaos released without charge
“Always look at it with an open mind, but actually it’s very basic common sense that a damaged drone, which may have not been there at a particular point in time has now been seen by an occupier, a member of the public, and then they’ve told us, ‘we’ve found this’.
“Then we go and forensically recover it and do everything we can at that location to try and get a bit more information.”
The detective said the arrests made on Friday night were the result of a tip-off from a member of the public.
“I’m completely satisfied the arrests were lawful, bearing in mind the burden of proof and likely suspicion at the time of arrest,” he said.
“Obviously we had to be sure prior to release, in terms of that investigation, they were no longer suspects.”
Mr Tingley added: “I won’t apologise, but what I will say is we really do appreciate their co-operation and we have put a lot of effort and resources into supporting them when they were released from questioning.”
Police are working through information relating to “persons of interest”, investigating more than 67 drone sightings and forensically examining the damaged drone.
Mr Tingley said he could not rule out the risk the culprits would strike again at Gatwick or another airport, but added he hoped someone would come forward with the vital clue.
He insisted the investigation was not “back to square one” and added: “We have a number of lines of enquiry and persons of interest. We are still progressing those lines of enquiry, including house-to-house enquiries around the sightings of the drone.”
Gatwick Airport has offered a £50,000 reward through Crimestoppers for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible for the chaos.
Around 1,000 flights were cancelled or diverted after drones were spotted inside the perimeter of the UK’s second biggest airport on Wednesday and approximately 140,000 passengers were affected over a three day period.
Labour has called for an independent inquiry after accusing the government of failing to act on the risks posed by drones at Gatwick.
Shadow transport secretary Andy McDonald claimed there were missed opportunities to prevent the airport from coming under such an attack.
“The government was repeatedly warned about the risks posed by drones to aviation but failed to act,” he said.
Additional reporting by Press Association
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...Bq6citmeKvNkrA5KUbPA6QchEJSuYjXwCZMoUN_Y2BRXM
Bisognerà capire chi pagherà il conto spese con centinaia di voli cancellati e migliaia di pax appiedati proprio sotto Natale.
Direi che prima si dovra' capire se e' davvero una tragica farsa e nel caso lo fosse come e' stato possibile che l'aeroporto, la polizia, l'esercito abbiano reagito in questo modo a... niente.
Piuttosto che rischiare (per nulla) una tragedia han chiuso tutto giustamente. Dicesi prevenzione. Poi dopo si può dire tutto, ma i mitomani obbligano a queste azioni (se di mitomani si tratta).
In tutta questa storia c'è qualcosa che non mi torna o che non capisco, come se mancassero dei pezzi. In particolare mi sembra che in tutte le cronache (almeno in quelle che ho letto io) non sia mai stato detto chi ha visto e segnalato questi droni: piloti? controllori? personale aeroportuale? forze di polizia? cittadini qualunque? Forse è sfuggito a me?
E anche sulle tempistiche, sugli orari nei quali sono stati fatti gli avvistamenti, mi sembra ci siano state informazioni molto vaghe...
È solo una mia impressione?
E anche sulle tempistiche, sugli orari nei quali sono stati fatti gli avvistamenti, mi sembra ci siano state informazioni molto vaghe...
È solo una mia impressione?
