AA, DL e UA protestano contro vettori Qatar & UAE per concorrenza sleale


Innanzi tutto, do volentieri atto ad UA di aver rimesso lo snack sul volo HNL-GUM (schedulato di 7 ore e 55, non proprio brevissimo).

Per quanto riguarda il divieto di cabotaggio, deriva da una legge federale qui descritta https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/migrated/oia/igia/2011/upload/20-AviationCabotageDOT.pdf e non dall'Open Skies.

Anzi, i sindacati hanno suggerito, e le compagnie aeree hanno subito recepito, di escludere il cabotaggio da ogni forma di liberalizzazione (Brian F. Havel, Beyond Open Skies: A New Regime for International Aviation, Kluwer, 2009, p. 129).

Quindi, direi che "i fatti storico/politici che hanno portato a questa regolamentazione" (che, ripeto, non è la Open Skies) sono nelle pertinenze delle compagnie USA coinvolte.

Legge Federale cui le compagnie si sono adeguate, come oggi dobbiamo negare , ahime', l'imbarco a cittadini siriani o libici o iraniani.
Coinvolti si, ma non causa delle scelte governative.
Negli accordi Open Skies USA-EAU vi sono clausole che sembrano davvero non essere rispettate dale ME3 e in particolare da EK, tra cui:
- Each Party shall allow each designated airline to determine the frequency and capacity of the international air transportation it offers based upon commercial considerations in the marketplace. Senso della MXP JFK?
- protection of airlines from prices that are artificially low due to direct or indirect governmental subsidy or support., e oggi troviamo la MIL NYC r/t in J a 1100...
E cosi' via, perche' con il sussidio illimitato l'accordo stesso non trova fondamento.
 
Quindi prendiamo una semestrale a caso - in cui comunque EK ha fatto soldi - per dimostrare cosa? Io posso capire che tu sia aziendalista al punto dall'ignorare la realtà, ma - renditene conto - EK e' una compagnia che paga il carburante come tutti gli altri, gli aerei come tutti gli altri, e le tasse secondo le leggi del suo paese e di quelli in cui opera. E', a tutti gli effetti, una compagnia di mercato, che ti/ci piaccia o meno. Io non ci lavoro e non ho intenzione di lavorarci, ma so riconoscere che EK ha fatto, e sta facendo, grandi cose, dal punto di vista operativo e dal punto di vista della profittabilita', posto che questa parola esista. Da gente del genere e' meglio imparare e cercare di copiarli/batterli al loro gioco, invece che tirare la giacchetta a papa' Stato quando le cose non vanno bene, che mi sembra essere uno sport nazionale in America (auto, aerei, medicinali ora compagnie aeree...)



Nel caso di AA e' andata bene agli investitori, vero, molto ma molto meno bene ai lavoratori. Non so da dove venga la cifra di cinquanta miliardi di dollari che citi tu, pero' per me anche poter stracciare tutti i CBA, tutti gli accordi di leasing, tutti i contratti con fornitori, congelare e bloccare il debito - perche' quello e' - dei fondi pensione e' un bell'aiuto di stato legalizzato. Per come la vedo io in quest'industria non ci sono buoni e cattivi, santi e demoni, siamo tutti - in un modo o nell'altro- peccatori. IMHO, ovviamente.

Ah, oggi qui a Londra c'e' il sole...

Allora, le ME3 sono di proprieta' dello Stato, con fondi illimitati giacche' lo "Stato" sono gli emiri stessi che cacciano i soldi. Dire che EK sta sul mercato e' davvero grottesco, che poi paghi le cose quanto gli altri cambia nulla, tanto I soldi li mette lo Stato. Imparare cosa, un business model che solo in stati=padrone e' realizzabile? Mah...
Felice per il sole e felice di condividere una birra il 26/3 sera insieme anche a Londonfog se vuoi, Covent Garden?
 
AA, DL e UA protestano contro vettori Qatar & UAE per concorrenza sleale

Chi sia il proprietario di una compagnia è irrilevante; rilevante è se la compagnia produce utili (come sembrerebbe) e se le condizioni di mercato sono uguali (qui non lo so...)
 
Are Gulf carriers ready to face some turbulence?




Published on: March, 17, 2017




The three Gulf giants – Emirates, Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways – are among the most successful airlines in recent years. Financial support from their respective governments and the strategic positioning of their hubs are some of the main reasons for their rapid growth. Despite the glamorous achievements, those airlines now face pressure related to their operational issues. Emirates reported a 75% loss in revenue last year and Etihad, as reported by Forbes, is planning to improve ‘cost efficiency’ by reduction of positions in some parts of its business. Meanwhile, Qatar Airways has also given up the plans to launch its new Saudi Arabian subsidiary, Al Maha airways.


Ambitious vs. operational issues

Remembering the 90s, Emirates President Tim Clark said that he had done a paper on long-haul low-cost flights. At the time, Clark recalls everyone’s laughter but looking at today, those predictions don’t seem to be that amusing. Since low-cost carriers started competing on long-haul routes, the big players seem to be changing their point of view from expansion to efficiency.

Looking for ways to compete in the changing market, the largest of the three Gulf carriers, Emirates, is considering adding smaller, single-aisle jets to its fleet, which would give an alternative for serving a stronger Middle East market, according to Nikkei Asian Review. This means that the airline’s successful traditional business model, built on wide-body jets offering as much luxury as money can buy, seems to be shifting in response to the recent struggle with the 75% profit drop and increased competition in the air.

When reporting 75% fall in profits for first HY 2016-2017, Emirates blamed unfavorable currency environment, stronger competition and reduced appetite for travel amid an economic slowdown, as reported by Market Watch. The airline at that time reported 9% passenger traffic growth during the six-month period compared with the same period a year earlier.

Emirates President stated that although he cannot come up with any prompt transformation from large capacity aircraft fleet, he understands that competitors are not snoozing and might take actions in that direction. Tim Clark added that sticking to the airline’s traditional plan would mean missing opportunities as “business doesn’t stop” with his actions, according to The Daily Star.

Across the desert, Abu Dhabi‘s Etihad Airways, founded in July 2003, reported its strongest annual financial result in 2015 with a net profit of $103 million. The partnership strategy and equity partnerships, according to Etihad, have delivered five million passengers and $1.4 billion direct revenue in 2015. In the same year, Etihad had increased its shares up by 25.1% under the equity partnership with airberlin, Air Seychelles, Jet Airways, Air Serbia, Alitalia and Virgin Australia.

However, in December 2016, the Abu Dhabi-based airline disclosed plans of restructuring and cutting a significant number of positions. Last year, Etihad also cut its routes, from 116 in December 2015 to 112 in October 2016.

In addition, the equity partnership does not go smoothly like expected. India’s Jet Airways is the only one which booked significant profits, while other airlines show negative trends, especially Alitalia and airberlin. In less than three years after Etihad saved Italy‘s flag carrier from bankruptcy, Alitalia is once again in financial difficulty. The Australian noted that around €400 million ($565 million) has been spent to buy the controlling stake in Alitalia in 2014, but the Italian carrier cannot push the traffic and loses to European LCCs such as the Irish Ryanair.

Commenting on the restructuring plan, Etihad spokesperson stated, as quoted by Wam news agency, that to make sure the airline remains agile and competitive in ‘weakened global economic conditions’, Etihad constantly explores and pursues new ways of driving productivity and improving efficiency. This involves an ongoing process of organizational reviews and restructuring in different parts of the business in order to reduce costs and improve productivity and revenue.


Leaving the oasis

The farther the Gulf trio flies from their oasis, the more challenges it faces from established airlines that don’t want to loose ground, with protests following international routes announcements, especially the ones to US and EU. Across the pond, the other Big Three – Delta, United and American – blame their Gulf counterparts for benefiting from government subsidies.

Just a week ago, a protest against Emirates’ new Newark-Athens route took place in Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), involving around 200 United Airlines employees. The demonstration which took place one day prior the opening reflects on the long-going quarrel between the US and Middle Eastern carriers.

In January 2017, Open & Fair Skies, a lobby group representing many US airlines, accused Emirates of breaching the air services agreement that makes it possible for the company to operate US-bound routes. Along with the ‘illegal subsidies’ allegations, the Gulf carriers are continuingly being challenged by the airlines on the other side of the world.

In addition, Etihad’s biggest investment in Alitalia might also encounter objection from the European community. Recently, the airline seeks a way to bypass established European Community rules, which foresee that Italian partners must own a 51% stake in local airlines, to put around $231 million into common funds.


There are always roads leading to Rome

Benefiting from the natural advantages of their geographical location, serving as an inevitable stopover during long-haul flights from Asia to Europe and beyond, the airlines should continue seeing growth in the long-term. Whatever ‘turbulence’ the Gulf trio might be receiving, their place in the world’s aviation market is deeply rooted.

Reviewing the Emirates performance in 2016, airline’s President Tim Clark said in a statement: “Consumer appetite for travel has remained resilient, despite socio-economic and political headwinds around the globe, and that is reflected in our operational growth. Emirates will continue on our strategy of organic growth, leveraging on the geo-centricity of the UAE, and Dubai’s dynamic developments in tourism and commerce.”

Thus, the airline’s plan to have around 180 destinations worldwide by 2020, boosting from over 150 served today, mirrors the Emirate’s rapid growth plans regardless of all the challenges the airline might face in the future.

The present situation does not seem to be grave for Qatar Airways in a long-term perspective. According to Akbar al Baker, the head of Qatar Airlines, all worries concerning their future are exaggerated. He has been skeptical about the recent success of the low-cost long-haul carriers due to their vulnerability to fluctuations in the fuel price, stating that $50 is not a feasible price for low-costers.

Concerning recent resentment in the US, Al Baker also added that airways actually do not see any drop in demand in traffic there and expect a future growth. In fact, by summer 2017 Qatar Airways are expecting to increase their capacity by 7%. Strategic location is obviously an advantage, and it is likely, that the US may soften its stance due to the new administration’s intention to keep good relations with Gulf monarchies. Eventually, Luminoso, a deep analytics company, has recently conducted a survey of 13,465 customers rating 19 airlines in categories of check-in, food, comfort and entertainment. Qatar Airlines was qualified as the best.

Although Etihad seems not adding any new routes, the airline has added 8 wide-body aircraft, 3 A380s and 5 787s in 2016. This year it will add 12 more aircraft including 9 787s, 2 A380s and an A330-200 freighter.

Etihad’s CEO James Hogan said in a statement: “2017 will be another challenging year. We will continue to expand prudently and efficiently, reflecting the nature of the economic environment. We remain optimistic and have every belief that our robust business model will succeed and, most importantly, stand the test of time”.

With a strong capital background and an extensive network, the Gulf’s trio might not be disturbed with the ‘turbulence’, however, competition in the aviation industry requires a grand strategy to take the gold medal.

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Re: AA, DL e UA protestano contro vettori Qatar & UAE per concorrenza sleale

Competitors at the gate: can US airlines defend the stronghold?




Published on: March, 14, 2017




The recently launched Emirates Newark-Athens route evoked protests in Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), involving around 200 United Airlines employees. The service of the Dubai-based carrier got its start on Monday, 13th of March. The demonstration which took place one day prior reflects on the long-going quarrel between the Big Three – United, Delta and American – and their Gulf counterparts: Emirates, Etihad and Qatar Airways.

Emirates said that the new direct, year-round route was anticipated by the US Greek diaspora and had been requested directly by the Greek government and Athens International Airport (ATH), since the US carriers serve direct flights only during the summer months, according to NJ.com.

In recent years, US airlines have seen more competitors at their gates than ever – from well-established carriers like Emirates to ambitious European budget airlines – WOW and Norwegian. With protests on the official and ground level accompanying every route announcement from a foreign airline, it seems as if US carriers are slowly losing the battle. The question remains: will the stronghold fall and if so, when.


‘Illegal subsidies‘ issue still there

Emirates operates four daily flights to New York John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK) – one from Milan, Italy and three times from Dubai, UAE. The new flight, first one out of Newark, marks the airline’s 12th US gateway.

The Big Three have accused Gulf carriers of receiving over $42 billion worth of subsidies from their national governments, thus breaching the Open Skies Agreement signed when entering the US market.

Emirates immediately retaliated by stating that it was “not subsidized” and giving summarized “responses to the individual allegations in the submission.”

The Gulf carrier pointed out that US airlines are entering the debates with “unclean hands“ after having received billions in US government subsidies themselves. Emirates reccomends the US government reject the “call to take action against Emirates,” because the „argument is nothing more than a mess of legal distortions and factual errors”.

Commenting the Sunday protest in Newark, Emirates, world’s largest long-haul airlines, stressed that company has always adhered to the Open Skies principles to promote client-centric approach. According to Emirates, they have been providing numerous services to American customers, including direct flights to more than 50 cities, any US carrier cannot afford yet.


Don‘t forget the LCCs

The battle for US skies is not fought on one front, as European LCCs are willing to go as low as two-digit numbers when pricing their tickets, with Norwegian offering them for $65 a pop. In January 2017, the Southwest Airlines Pilots' Association (SWAPA) partnering with the NetJets Association of Shared Aircraft Pilots (NJASAP) urged President Trump to reverse the decision to grant Norwegian Air International (NAI) a foreign carrier permit.

NAI, a subsidiary of Norwegian Air Shuttle, plans to offer 10 new routes connecting second-tier US airports with Ireland and Scotland already this summer.

Jon Weaks, SWAPA President, stated: "This decision is just another failed trade deal by the Obama administration, giving foreign companies an unfair advantage over US companies.”

According to SWAPA, the late-December decision to grant NAI a foreign carrier permit paves the way for NAI to execute on its flag of convenience (FOC) scheme, allowing Norwegian to establish an Irish subsidiary in order to take advantage of Ireland's lax labor, tax, and social laws.


Lack of arguments = battle lost?

Commenting on the protest on Emirates‘ new route, Will Horton, an aviation analyst quoted by Reuters, said that American carriers lack arguments for protesting the new route, as none of them fly to Greece all year round. Another counter-argument would be the fact that Emirates is a major Boeing operator, which goes against the claims that Emirates is negatively affecting US jobs.

In addition, the US sky is not only invaded by Gulf carriers, airlines from EU, China, South America and other parts of Asia, Canada, Africa and other places are also flooding the international routes to/from the US with various price offers. And none of them seem to be afraid of protests.

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Entrambe le analisi sono interessanti, grazie TW843; in merito all'ultima parte circa il commento di Will Horton mi stupisce che uno come lui non comprenda il fatto che sia piu' che evidente che durante la winter non ci sia traffic ATH NYC. Peggio, molto peggio, che faccia finta di ignorare cosa accade invece sulla MIL-NYC...
 
Allora, le ME3 sono di proprieta' dello Stato, con fondi illimitati giacche' lo "Stato" sono gli emiri stessi che cacciano i soldi. Dire che EK sta sul mercato e' davvero grottesco, che poi paghi le cose quanto gli altri cambia nulla, tanto I soldi li mette lo Stato. Imparare cosa, un business model che solo in stati=padrone e' realizzabile? Mah...
Felice per il sole e felice di condividere una birra il 26/3 sera insieme anche a Londonfog se vuoi, Covent Garden?

Leggo solo ora, e onestamente mi domando come tu faccia a essere serio.

EK ha postato utili netti nel 2015/16, 2014/15, 2013/14, 2012/13, 2011/12, 2010/11 e prima non so perche' mi sono rotto i maroni di controllare. Tra l'altro, dal 2011 al 2015/16 il profit margin e' sempre aumentato, dal 3% all'8%. Tutti i loro financials sono rivisti da un auditor indipendente, PwC.

Ora, se una compagnia fa utili per forza non deve avere nessuno a 'cacciare' soldi, mi sembra pacifico, giacche' fa soldi. A meno che non stiamo a dire che e' tutta una farsa, tutti i financials dal 2011 in poi sono finti, e Pricewaterhouse Coopers ha firmato la frode piu' grande dai tempi di Enron.
 
Allora, le ME3 sono di proprieta' dello Stato, con fondi illimitati giacche' lo "Stato" sono gli emiri stessi che cacciano i soldi. Dire che EK sta sul mercato e' davvero grottesco, che poi paghi le cose quanto gli altri cambia nulla, tanto I soldi li mette lo Stato. Imparare cosa, un business model che solo in stati=padrone e' realizzabile? Mah...

che discorso è scusa?
Col tuo discorso sembra che lo Stato non possa essere proprietario di aziende di successo...
 
United axes Middle Eastern interlines as subsidy row hots up

United Airlines (UA, Chicago O'Hare) has announced it will discontinue ticketing and baggage interline agreements with five Middle Eastern carriers with effect from May 5, 2017.

According to an internal company communique seen by Skift, United said its decision to break its commercial ties with Emirates, flydubai, Qatar Airways, Saudia, and Royal Jordanian is in protest at their alleged continued access to state subsidization.

United, along with Delta Air Lines and American Airlines (the "US3"), have collectively alleged that Emirates, Qatar Airways, and Etihad Airways (EY, Abu Dhabi Int'l) (the "ME3") effectively operate as state-owned entities. As such, unlike the privately-owned US carriers, they enjoy the benefits of national funding and discounted access to local facilities and supplies which allow them to undercut the competition. This, the US carriers argue, has artificially distorted the global travel market in their favour - the US market in particular.

For their part, the ME3 have rejected the US3's accusations as false and baseless.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/...dle-eastern-interlines-as-subsidy-row-hots-up
 
Eccoci qua, capolinea delle proteste!

Minchia che ridere!!!

Qatar Airways intends to buy American Airlines 10% stake

American Airlines have confirmed Qatar Airways, the Gulf country's state-owned airline, had expressed interest in buying a 10 percent stake worth at least $808 million in the US giant airline.

Shares of American Airlines rose 5.5 percent to $51.08 in premarket trading.

The news comes just weeks after Qatar was engulfed in a diplomatic row with neighbor Saudi Arabia, which led other nations including Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain in cutting ties with Doha.

Qatar Airways indicated that it would buy the stake on the open market, American Airlines said in a regulatory filing.

American said its certificate of incorporation prohibits anyone from acquiring 4.75 percent or more of the company’s outstanding stock without advance approval from the board following a written request.

The company's board did not receive any written request from Qatar Airways, American added.

American Airlines also noted that foreign ownership laws limited the total percentage of foreign voting interest in a U.S. company to 24.9 percent. - REUTERS
 
Qatar Airways’ courtship of American is one for the long haul

Middle Eastern carrier may be hoping for closer US ties to expand global reach

yesterday*by: *Tanya Powley* in London, *Simeon Kerr* in Dubai and *Patti Waldmeir* in Chicago*
Financial Times


Doug Parker may have been left puzzled, concerned and “not happy” after Qatar Airways revealed its plan to buy up to a 10 per cent stake in American Airlines last week. But the US carrier’s chief executive should have also added flattered to his list of emotions.
Akbar Al Baker, the outspoken chief executive of the Gulf’s fastest-growing supercarrier, has repeatedly stressed that his strategy is to invest in profitable airlines — “goldsmiths”, as he calls them, rather than “scrap dealers”.
The dig at rival Middle Eastern airline Etihad Airways is clear. The Abu Dhabi carrier’s strategy of taking minority stakes in troubled airlines to drive growth has come at a cost. Alitalia, the Italian carrier, is in administration. Air Berlin is on life support. Etihad is in the midst of reassessing its strategy.
In comparison, Qatar Airways has focused its attention on what it deems “successful” carriers to expand its global reach. It is already the biggest shareholder in IAG, which owns British Airways, after increasing its stake to 20 per cent in August last year. Over the past year it has also acquired a stake in Chile-based Latam Airlines and 49 per cent of Italian carrier Meridiana.
Mr Al Baker’s target of American Airlines for its next investment has clear “industrial logic”, according to Andrew Lobbenberg, aviation analyst at HSBC. IAG and Latam are fellow members of the OneWorld aviation alliance with Qatar and American Airlines, also a member, has joint ventures with both.
A joint venture involving revenue sharing is often the closest form of co-operating possible between airlines because of countries’ rules that limit foreign ownership of carriers.
“There is a very powerful strategic triangle [being] built between IAG, American and Latam,” says Mr Lobbenberg. “That triangle has enormous strategic relevance and we can see that Qatar has bought into two-thirds of them. Therefore, industrially there is a very straightforward logic to investing in the third corner of the triangle.”
Qatar’s investment in IAG, in which it built its stake from 10 per cent to 20 per cent over the space of a year, signalled its longer term strategic aim. In October, the Gulf carrier and BA formed a revenue-sharing partnership on services between their respective hubs in London and Doha.
Aviation analysts say Qatar Airways could be hoping for a similar end result with its move on American Airlines.
“Qatar Airways is preparing for a long-term courtship,” says Will Horton, analyst at Centre for Aviation. “Airlines don’t invest in others purely for financial reasons — not even airlines like American that are performing well.”
The timing of Mr Al Baker’s approach to American was notable. The first conversation between himself and Mr Parker took place in early June at an airline industry meeting in Cancún, Mexico. But within days, Qatar Airways was facing the most severe crisis in its two decade history after three Gulf neighbours and Egypt closed their airspace to the carrier as their governments accused Qatar of supporting terrorism, a charge denied by Doha.
The blockade has hit bookings and forced the airline to stop flights to the four blockading countries — Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and Egypt — markets that analysts say account for about a fifth of its global seat capacity.
“Qatar Airways needs to increase its international connecting traffic feed and further diversify its route network, especially after the recent blockade,” says Corrine Png, chief executive of Crucial Perspective. “Qatar Airways could potentially gain better access to traffic feed from American Airlines’ extensive domestic network.”
North America accounts for about 6 per cent of Qatar Airways’ total seat capacity, providing scope for growth.
However, airlines often struggle to reap meaningful synergies from equity investments. “Such small minority stakes tend to be futile in practice,” says Ms Png. “Qatar Airways could well be throwing money into the drain as it is unlikely to gain much management control.”
Qatar Airways is preparing for a long-term courtship
Will Horton, Centre for Aviation
The three Gulf supercarriers — which include Qatar and regional rivals Emirates and Etihad — have faced turbulence over the past year as demand for their long-haul services weakened even as they expanded capacity. They have been hit by President Trump’s attempts to limit immigration and the ban on laptops on some flights, while the oil price crash also damaged regional sentiment.
Hunter Keay, an analyst at Wolfe Research, notes that a big investment in American Airlines could help solidify Qatar Airways’ alliance with the US. A minority stake in American Airlines “intertwines Qatar with US interests a bit more, making it theoretically more difficult for US regulators to impose trade restrictions,” he says.
But for now, the response has been icy. After the planned investment was revealed on Thursday, Mr Parker insisted the US carrier remained committed to its longstanding campaign against what it claims are unfair state subsidies that give the Gulf carriers an advantage over US airlines — a charge they deny.
“Mr Parker had no option but to decline any interest in Qatar Airways and say the stake isn’t needed. American has finally patched up employee discontent and was not going to let it unfurl by saying something remotely nice about Qatar,” adds Mr Horton.

https://www.ft.com/content/be8e29aa-5820-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f
 
Trovo interessante la conclusione che si puo' trarre dall'inizio dell'articolo. Meridiana non e' in "life support"
 
American Airlines: "non entusiasti" su intenzioni Qatar Airways

La compagnia araba sta puntando al 10% del vettore Usa. Critiche sulla manovra e le strategie da parte delle altre compagnie statunitensi

Qatar Airways punta al 10% di American Airlines. L'intenzione è di comprare all'inizio il 4,75% per poi salire. La notizia circolata nei giorni scorsi è ora confermata anche dalle reazioni di American Airlines. In una lettera ai dipendenti, riportata dalla Cnn, il Ceo Doug Parker ha detto che lui e il management di AA "non sono particolarmente entusiasti" dell'interesse di Qatar Airways ad acquistare una importante fetta della compagnia ma ha ammesso che "non c'è niente che possiamo fare, non possiamo controllare chi vende o acquista azioni".
La notizia arriva in un momento geopolitico particolare, dati i rapporti tra i paesi piuttosto tesi nelle ultime settimane. Secondo quanto riportato da Cnn, AA insieme a Delta e United hanno accusato la compagnia di bandiera Qatar Airways, insieme alle emiratine Emirates ed Etihad di ricevere finanziamenti sleali dai propri governi e dicono che "questo violi precedenti accordi di Open Skies con gli Usa". Tali sussidi infatti, secondo le compagnie americane " hanno permesso alle compagnie del golfo di espandersi negli Usa, dando loro un vantaggio scorretto e colpendo il settore lavorativo". Le compagnie del golfo negano queste affermazioni. GV