Japan Airlines taglierà altre rotte internazionali tra cui Fiumicino e Malpensa


willy79 ha detto:
Tempo fa sul forum ho letto che JAL continua ad utilizzare il 747 con un alta densità in quanto è una rotta che ha un LF altissimo... Non mi ricordo quanto tempo fa, ma son certo di averlo letto. A sto punto anche io deduco che è davvero una rotta importante e che AZ o chi per esse dovrebbe prendere l'occasione e fare in modo di trarre profitto dalle disgrazie altrui...
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I 744 ad altissima densità di cui parli non operano più sull'Italia ormai dalla W09, con l'introduzione della nuova business con maggiore pitch (e quindi con minore densità).
 
carlitos71 ha detto:
Senza ogni dubbio il momento sarebbe da cogliere al volo!!!!!!

Domanda probabilmente sciocca: se JAL mette a terra tutto questo popò di voli, dovrà dismettere una buona parte di flotta. Perché non approfittare anche di questa eventualità?
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Infatti nei piani c'è la dismissione anticipata di tutti i 744, oltre agli A300.
 
Intanto una notizia positiva

JAL seen posting operating profit in March: report

(Reuters) - Japan Airlines Corp (JALFQ.PK) is believed to have generated a single-month operating profit in March, following five consecutive quarters of operating loss, according to a report by the turnaround entity overseeing the airline's rehabilitation, the Nikkei business daily reported.

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The Enterprise Turnaround Initiative Corp (ETIC) of Japan told a Tokyo court in a report dated last Friday that JAL's profitability is recovering, helped by improving earnings from international routes and cost-cutting measures, the Nikkei reported.

Subsidiary Japan Airlines International Co appears to have secured a small operating profit in March, according to the state-backed ETIC, marking an improvement from the unit's operating losses in January and February, the daily said.

However, business conditions appear to have been hurt in April by volcanic eruptions in Iceland, which resulted in forced flight cancellations, the daily added.

JAL, which filed for bankruptcy protection in January, was provided with a credit line of 600 billion yen ($6.51 billion) for bridge loans by ETIC and the Development Bank of Japan, the paper said.

According to the report, JAL has tapped 305 billion yen so far, and is not likely to require any additional loans for the time being, the Nikkei said.

($1=92.15 YEN)

(Reporting by Gowri Jayakumar in Bangalore; Editing by Don Sebastian)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63I5KR20100419?type=globalMarketsNews
 
Nel mese di marzo hanno fatto utili quindi il periodo buio per JAL potrebbe inizare a passare? e magari mantengono le rotte italiane?
 
Japan Air to Boost Flight Cuts, Retire Planes Faster (Update2)


By Chris Cooper

April 28 (Bloomberg) -- Japan Airlines Corp., undergoing a government-backed turnaround in bankruptcy, will increase route cuts and retire planes earlier than planned in a bid to return to profit.

The carrier will cut 15 overseas and 30 domestic flights this fiscal year, compared with an earlier plan to slash 31 routes over three years, according to a statement posted on the airline’s Web site today. The statement was later removed. Sze Hunn Yap, a spokeswoman, declined to comment.

Asia’s largest carrier by sales said it will carry out “drastic cuts” in costs in one year rather than three years to speed its turnaround after filing for Japan’s fourth-largest bankruptcy in January. Political opposition may still limit how deeply JAL can pare flights, said Mitsushige Akino, who oversees $450 million in assets at Ichiyoshi Investment Management Co.

“JAL is likely to face local opposition to cutting routes,” he said. “They should really stop flying internationally if they want to stop big swings in their earnings.”

JAL will hold a press conference with President Masaru Onishi at 5 p.m. today, Yap said. The airline may increase job cuts to return to profit, Onishi told reporters in Los Angeles earlier this month.

Sao Paulo, Amsterdam

Japan Air will stop flying to Sao Paulo, Amsterdam and Milan from Tokyo starting Sept. 30, according to the statement. The carrier will end services to Kona, Hawaii, from Oct. 30.

The airline was headed for a fifth annual decline in international passenger numbers, according to figures released April 12. Overseas traveler numbers fell 8.6 percent in the 11 months to February, following a 12 percent drop in the previous fiscal year.

JAL will retire its Boeing Co. 747s and Airbus SAS A300 planes by March 31, according to the statement. It had planned to retire the 37 Boeing 747s over three years under the turnaround plan released in January.

The carrier, which was delisted from the Tokyo Stock Exchange in February, predicted it would lose money for a fourth year in five in the 12 months ended March 31. It had a net loss of 46.8 billion yen ($502 million) in the three months ended Dec. 31, compared with a loss of 39 billion yen a year earlier.

--Editors: Neil Denslow, Chana Schoenberger.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...light-cuts-retire-planes-faster-update2-.html
 
Di seguito la lista delle cancellazioni con relative date. Confermate sia MXP che FCO, oltre che ad AMS in Europa.


I found the link to the official press release before JAL updated the PR site. It outlines the current restructuring plan including the list of routes to be suspended.

International Route Suspensions

Narita (NRT)
San Francisco (SFO) [7 weekly]: transfer to Haneda, to be confirmed.
Sao Paulo (GRU) [2 weekly]: suspend from September 30 2010, withdrawal from Sao Paulo
Amsterdam (AMS) [7 weekly]: suspend from September 30 2010, withdrawal from AMS
Milan (MXP) [4 weekly]: suspend from September 30 2010, withdrawal from MXP
Rome (FCO) [3 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010, withdrawal from FCO
Brisbane (BNE) [7 weekly]: ex-NRT suspend from September 30 2010, ex-BNE from October 1 2010, withdrawal from BNE
Denpasar (DPS) [7 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010, withdrawal from DPS
Kona (KOA) [7 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010, withdrawal from KOA

Kansai (KIX)
Depasar (DPS) [7 weekly]: ex-KIX suspend from September 30 2010, ex-DPS from October 1 2010. Withdrawal from DPS
Guam (GUM) [7 weekly]: ex-KIX suspend from October 1 2010, ex-GUM on October 2 2010
Hong Kong (HKG) [7 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010
Guangzhou (CAN) [3 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010
Beijing (PEK) [7 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010

Chubu (Nagoya)
Bangkok (BKK) [7 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010
Guangzhou (CAN) [4 weekly]: suspend from October 1 2010

Frequency Reductions
Narita (NRT) - Incheon (ICN): Reduce from 21 weekly to 14 weekly from October 1 2010. JL955/956 suspended
Narita (NRT) - Guam (GUM): Reduce from 14 weekly to 7 weekly from October 1 (ex-GUM from October 2) 2010. JO949/940 suspended

Frequency Reduction/Suspension after Haneda Expansion (to be confirmed)
Narita (NRT) - San Francisco [7 weekly]: suspend from from October 31 2010
Narita (NRT) - Beijing (PEK): Reduce from 14 weekly to 7 weekly from October 1 2010. JL863/864 suspended (China and Japan has some kind of deal to do this earlier)
Narita (NRT) - Hong Kong (HKG): Reduce from 14 weekly to 7 weekly from October 31 2010. JL731/732 suspended
Narita (NRT) - Taipei (TPE): Reduce from 21 weekly to 14 weekly from October 31 2010. JL801/806 suspended

New Routes / Frequency Increase
Haneda (HND) - Gimpo (GMP): Increase from 14 to 21 weekly from October 31 2010
Haneda (HND) - Beijing (PEK): Increase from 7 to 14 weekly from October 31 2010 (Might increase earlier)
Haneda (HND) - Hongqiao (SHA): Increase from 7 to 14 weekly from October 31 2010 (Might increase earlier)
Haneda (HND) - Hong Kong (HKG): Increase from 3 to 7 weekly from October 31 2010. Switch to day time flight. Temporary suspension between September 30 and October 30 2010 for ex-HND flights and October 1 and 30 2010 for ex-HKG flights)
Haneda (HND) - Taipei Songshan (TSA): Launch 14 weekly from October 31 2010
Haneda (HND) - San Francisco(TSA): Launch 7 weekly from October 31 2010
Haneda (HND) - Honolulu (HNL): Launch 7 weekly from October 31 2010
Haneda (HND) - Bangkok (BKK): Launch 7 weekly from October 31 2010
Haneda (HND) - Paris (CDG): Launch 7 weekly from October 31 2010

Aircraft Change
Narita (NRT) - Vancouver (YVR): 747-400 => 777-200ER from October 1 2010
Narita (NRT) - Honolulu (HNL): 747-400 => 767-300ER from October 1 2010 on JO072/071; from October 31 2010 on JO074/073
Narita (NRT) - Bangkok (BKK): 777-200ER => 767-300ER on JO707/708. ex-NRT flights from October 1 2010, ex-BKK flights from October 2 2010.
Narita (NRT) - Singapore (SIN): 777-200ER -> 767-300ER on JL711/712. ex-NRT flights from October 1 2010, ex-SIN flights from October 2 2010.
Narita (NRT) - Shanghai (PVG): 767-300ER => 737-800 from October 1 2010 on JL877/874
Narita (NRT) - Beijing (PEK): 767-300ER => 737-800 on JL869/860 from October 1 2010 for ex-NRT flights, from October 2 2010 for ex-PEK flights
Haneda (HND) - Hongqiao (SHA): 777-200ER => 767-300ER from October 1 2010
Haneda (HND) - Gimpo (GMP): 747-400 => 777-200ER on JL091/092 between October 1 and October 30 2010
Haneda (HND) - Gimpo (GMP): 777-200ER => 767-300ER on JL093/094 from October 31 2010
Kansai (KIX) - Honolulu (HNL): 747-400 => 767-300ER from October 31 2010
Kansai (KIX) - Shanghai (PVG): 767-300ER => 737-800 from October 31 2010
Chubu (NGO) - Honolulu (HNL): 747-400 - 767-300ER from October 31 2010
Chubu (NGO) - Shanghai (PVG): 767-300ER => 737-800 from October 1 2010
 
i-givo ha detto:
Considerando che il Brasile ha la più grossa comunità giapponese al di fuori del Giappone...è decisione piuttosto significativa e, forse, sofferta


Andando un po' di OT, non chiediamoci poi il perchè del successo di EK con Dubai ponte tra Europa e Asia...ed anche tra Brasile e Asia.
E' forse difficile trovare 250 persone al giorno che vanno verso Tokyo da Milano. Ma non è difficile raccogliere lo stesso numero a Dubai da varie parti d'Europa e portarle tutte assieme a Tokyo!
E' nato prima l'uovo o la gallina?
JAL che lascia spazio a EK o EK che ruba pax?
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Secondo me, nel caso specifico, conta più lo stato comatoso di JAL che non la concorrenza di altre compagnie.
Per il Giappone poi le compagnie del golfo che citi non sono particolarmente comode.
Dall'Europa meglio passare da altri hub europei o eventualmente Cina o Corea, già sulla strada.
 
i-givo ha detto:
Concordo in parte.
Indubbio che (la crisi) JAL sia nata prima dell'influenza di altre compagnie.
Però, ora che EK fa anche Tokyo, da molte città europee fai uno stop a DXB e sei arrivato.
La tua proposta impone invece un ulteriore scalo europeo per chi abita fuori dalla zona d'influenza delle 5-6 città collegate con Cina o Corea ( per quei casi).
Di fatto, sappiamo, DXB è un crogiulo di gente che arriva da ogni dove e va ovunque. Quindi optano per quella scelta piuttosto che usre un hub a casa propria.
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Beh se abito a Bologna, Torino, Firenze, Napoli.... è più comodo prendere un volo per FRA/CDG e da lì un diretto per il Giappone che non partire da uno dei 3 aeroporti Emirates in Italia con ore via terra per raggiungere MXP/FCO/VCE e con anche una maggiorazione del percorso via DXB (circa 8000 miles invece di 6000).
 
DusCgn ha detto:
Beh se abito a Bologna, Torino, Firenze, Napoli.... è più comodo prendere un volo per FRA/CDG e da lì un diretto per il Giappone che non partire da uno dei 3 aeroporti Emirates in Italia con ore via terra per raggiungere MXP/FCO/VCE e con anche una maggiorazione del percorso via DXB (circa 8000 miles invece di 6000).
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Hai perfettamente ragione
E' anche la mia strategia, ma non quella di tutti!
C'è chi ama farsi 2 hr di auto e partire dall'Aeroporto Intercontinentale della brughiera...
Però, sai benissimo che la strategia EK è quella di toccare più aeroporti dislocati sul territorio (eruopeo) : guarda appunto a Germania (il "tuo" DUS ne ha due daily...) e Gran Bretagna
In Italia abbiamo un aeroporto ogni 50km, loro, lo dico come battuta semiseria e forzata, hanno uno scalo ogni 200km! :)
 
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