hanno comunicato che l'equipaggio non era coinvolto prima della lettura delle scatole nere...
Precipita Volo Air India diretto a Londra AI 171
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Il che e' sospetto di per se. Come dicevano gli antenati "excusatio non petita accusatio manifesta"
Comunque e' un pasticcio, magari e' una dichiarazione incauta ma che non centra niente con i fatti.
Comunque e' un pasticcio, magari e' una dichiarazione incauta ma che non centra niente con i fatti.
Appena pubblicato su Corsera:
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Volo Air India precipitato, «i motori sono stati spenti da chi era in cabina». Esclusi i problemi all’aereo, indagine sui piloti
I primi dati di una delle scatole nere evidenziano il gesto in cabina che ha portato i propulsori a spegnersi. Il ruolo delle levette spostate.
Appena pubblicato su Corsera:
Volo Air India precipitato, «i motori sono stati spenti da chi era in cabina». Esclusi i problemi all’aereo, indagine sui piloti
I primi dati di una delle scatole nere evidenziano il gesto in cabina che ha portato i propulsori a spegnersi. Il ruolo delle levette spostate.
Leonard ha le "fonti occidentali"!
Eccolo la.
Era talmente nell'aria che ieri stavo per postare sul 3d del suicida di Bergamo i commenti su questo topic, per sbaglio. Poi magari e' una bufala.
Almeno il mezzo va bene e si spiega perche' non c'e' stato bisogno di avvertire o grounding.
Era talmente nell'aria che ieri stavo per postare sul 3d del suicida di Bergamo i commenti su questo topic, per sbaglio. Poi magari e' una bufala.
Almeno il mezzo va bene e si spiega perche' non c'e' stato bisogno di avvertire o grounding.
Appena pubblicato su Corsera:
Volo Air India precipitato, «i motori sono stati spenti da chi era in cabina». Esclusi i problemi all’aereo, indagine sui piloti
I primi dati di una delle scatole nere evidenziano il gesto in cabina che ha portato i propulsori a spegnersi. Il ruolo delle levette spostate.
Sarei davvero curioso di sapere quali sono le sue fonti, visto che al momento "questa esclusiva" la riporta solo lui.
Tra l'altro all'interno dell'articolo Leonard nazionale è il primo a parlare di ipotesi prevalente (che però - cito testualmente - può cambiare nel corso dei prossimi mesi) e del fatto che non vi è ancora alcuna certezza.
Peccato che invece il titolo sia perentorio nella sua sentenza e non parli di ipotesi.
Io mi stupisco del livello infimo raggiunto da Il Corriere, in quelli che oramai sono articoli per generare click che portano revenues più che per informare.
Il capolinea della Stampa è sempre più vicino.
Quello che è da capire (se effettivamente le start levers erano su cutoff)è se l'azione è stata fatta prima del problema ai motori o dopo. La differenza è abissale.
In realtà lo riporta il WSJ, che cita "early assessments made by US Officials"
Intanto crollano le prenotazioni e gli yield di Air India specie sul lungo raggio e la compagnia è costretta a pensanti riduzioni e sospensioni di rotte.
Air India bookings down 20%; fares dip up to 15% after Dreamliner crash
Bookings for Air India flights have declined by around 20 per cent on domestic as well as international routes while the average fares have dropped by 8-15 per cent in the aftermath of the Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner crash last week, Indian Association of Tour Operators (IATO) President Ravi Gosain said on Friday.
An Air India spokesperson did not respond to a query seeking comments from the airline.
A London-bound Air India flight, AI-171 carrying 242 passengers and crew members crashed in Ahmedabad on June 12. All but one on board the plane died along with nearly 29 on the ground when the aircraft smashed into a medical complex in Meghaninagar area of the city shortly after takeoff.
"Following the unfortunate incident involving Air India, we have observed a temporary decline in bookings, particularly on international sectors. While the exact percentage varies by route, our estimates indicate a dip of around 18-22 per cent on international bookings and a 10-12 per cent decline domestically in the immediate aftermath. However, this appears to be a short-term sentiment-driven reaction, as confidence typically stabilizes over time," Gosain told PTI.
The IATO president shared that there has been a moderate adjustment in fares across key Air India routes.
"On an average, ticket prices have reduced by 8-12 per cent on domestic sectors where the airline competes directly with low cost carriers like IndiGo and Akasa. On international routes, especially to Europe and Southeast Asia, fares have seen a drop of 10-15 per cent, depending on route occupancy and competition. These reductions are mix of promotional strategies and yield correction due to lowered demand," Gosain said.
Asked whether there have been cancellations by travellers for Air India flights booked via tour operators, the IATO president said, "Yes, we have witnessed a noticeable rise in cancellations, particularly from corporate and high-end leisure travellers who prefer to switch to alternative carriers".
He informed that the increase in cancellations was 15-18 per cent internationally, and 8-10 per cent domestically over the past week. However, this trend may normalize in the coming days as no systemic safety issue has been reported and authorities like DGCA reaffirm Air India's compliance with international safety standards.
Federation of Associations in Indian Tourism & Hospitality (FAITH) General Secretary Rajiv Mehra also shared that an up to 20 per cent decline in bookings has been observed for Air India flights while the fares have turned cheaper by about 10 per cent on certain sectors where there is high competition with other carriers.
"As far as Air India is concerned, fares are around 10 per cent cheaper for both domestic and international routes than other airlines on certain sectors. Besides, there is a 15-20 per cent decline in new bookings for Air India flights on domestic as well as international routes after the crash," Mehra said.
He asserted that all airlines have to pull up their socks as far as aircraft maintenance is concerned, to ensure passengers.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
Air India as of today (09JUL25) completed schedule changes to its long-haul routes, for the period of 16JUL25 – 31AUG25. Revised operation largely identical to its current interim schedule until 15JUL25. Note as of 0400GMT 10JUL25, the reduced operation has been extended to 30SEP25 on certain routes. Additional updates are now added.
Amritsar – Birmingham Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly, 787-8
Amritsar – London Gatwick 3 weekly service suspended (Initially listed tentative resumption from 04SEP25 on AeroRoutes was incorrect)
Bangalore – London Heathrow Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Amsterdam 777-300ER replaces 787-8 until 31AUG25, 1 daily
Delhi – Birmingham Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Chicago O'Hare Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly, 777-300ER (Delhi departure via Vienna. 3 weekly from 07SEP25)
Delhi – Copenhagen Reduce from 5 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – London Heathrow Reduce from 24 to 22 weekly until 31AUG25, 787/A350-900
Delhi – Melbourne Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Milan Malpensa Reduce from 7 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – Nairobi Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Paris Charles de Gaulle Reduce from 14 to 11 weekly, 787-8 (777-300ER on 20JUL25)
Delhi – San Francisco Reduce from 10 to 7 weekly, 777-200LR
Delhi – Seoul Incheon Reduce from 5 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – Sydney Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Tokyo Haneda Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8 (Initially listed as Tokyo Narita in error, which has been corrected)
Delhi – Toronto Reduce from 13 to 7 weekly, 777-300ER (Delhi departure via Vienna)
Delhi – Vancouver Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 777-300ER (Vancouver departure via Kolkata. 4 weekly from 01SEP25)
Delhi – Vienna Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – Washington Dulles Reduce from 5 to 3 weekly, 787-8 (Delhi departure via Vienna. The 3 weekly flights tentatively listed until 25OCT25)
Goa Manohar – London Gatwick 3 weekly service suspended
aeroroutes
Air India bookings down 20%; fares dip up to 15% after Dreamliner crash
Bookings for Air India flights have declined by around 20 per cent on domestic as well as international routes while the average fares have dropped by 8-15 per cent in the aftermath of the Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner crash last week, Indian Association of Tour Operators (IATO) President Ravi Gosain said on Friday.
An Air India spokesperson did not respond to a query seeking comments from the airline.
A London-bound Air India flight, AI-171 carrying 242 passengers and crew members crashed in Ahmedabad on June 12. All but one on board the plane died along with nearly 29 on the ground when the aircraft smashed into a medical complex in Meghaninagar area of the city shortly after takeoff.
"Following the unfortunate incident involving Air India, we have observed a temporary decline in bookings, particularly on international sectors. While the exact percentage varies by route, our estimates indicate a dip of around 18-22 per cent on international bookings and a 10-12 per cent decline domestically in the immediate aftermath. However, this appears to be a short-term sentiment-driven reaction, as confidence typically stabilizes over time," Gosain told PTI.
The IATO president shared that there has been a moderate adjustment in fares across key Air India routes.
"On an average, ticket prices have reduced by 8-12 per cent on domestic sectors where the airline competes directly with low cost carriers like IndiGo and Akasa. On international routes, especially to Europe and Southeast Asia, fares have seen a drop of 10-15 per cent, depending on route occupancy and competition. These reductions are mix of promotional strategies and yield correction due to lowered demand," Gosain said.
Asked whether there have been cancellations by travellers for Air India flights booked via tour operators, the IATO president said, "Yes, we have witnessed a noticeable rise in cancellations, particularly from corporate and high-end leisure travellers who prefer to switch to alternative carriers".
He informed that the increase in cancellations was 15-18 per cent internationally, and 8-10 per cent domestically over the past week. However, this trend may normalize in the coming days as no systemic safety issue has been reported and authorities like DGCA reaffirm Air India's compliance with international safety standards.
Federation of Associations in Indian Tourism & Hospitality (FAITH) General Secretary Rajiv Mehra also shared that an up to 20 per cent decline in bookings has been observed for Air India flights while the fares have turned cheaper by about 10 per cent on certain sectors where there is high competition with other carriers.
"As far as Air India is concerned, fares are around 10 per cent cheaper for both domestic and international routes than other airlines on certain sectors. Besides, there is a 15-20 per cent decline in new bookings for Air India flights on domestic as well as international routes after the crash," Mehra said.
He asserted that all airlines have to pull up their socks as far as aircraft maintenance is concerned, to ensure passengers.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
Air India July/August 2025 Long-Haul Service Changes – 09JUL25
Air India as of today (09JUL25) completed schedule changes to its long-haul routes, for the period of 16JUL25 – 31AUG25. Revised operation largely identical to its current interim schedule until 15JUL25. Note as of 0400GMT 10JUL25, the reduced operation has been extended to 30SEP25 on certain routes. Additional updates are now added.
Amritsar – Birmingham Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly, 787-8
Amritsar – London Gatwick 3 weekly service suspended (Initially listed tentative resumption from 04SEP25 on AeroRoutes was incorrect)
Bangalore – London Heathrow Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Amsterdam 777-300ER replaces 787-8 until 31AUG25, 1 daily
Delhi – Birmingham Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Chicago O'Hare Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly, 777-300ER (Delhi departure via Vienna. 3 weekly from 07SEP25)
Delhi – Copenhagen Reduce from 5 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – London Heathrow Reduce from 24 to 22 weekly until 31AUG25, 787/A350-900
Delhi – Melbourne Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Milan Malpensa Reduce from 7 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – Nairobi Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Paris Charles de Gaulle Reduce from 14 to 11 weekly, 787-8 (777-300ER on 20JUL25)
Delhi – San Francisco Reduce from 10 to 7 weekly, 777-200LR
Delhi – Seoul Incheon Reduce from 5 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – Sydney Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 787-8
Delhi – Tokyo Haneda Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8 (Initially listed as Tokyo Narita in error, which has been corrected)
Delhi – Toronto Reduce from 13 to 7 weekly, 777-300ER (Delhi departure via Vienna)
Delhi – Vancouver Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 777-300ER (Vancouver departure via Kolkata. 4 weekly from 01SEP25)
Delhi – Vienna Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly until 31AUG25, 787-8
Delhi – Washington Dulles Reduce from 5 to 3 weekly, 787-8 (Delhi departure via Vienna. The 3 weekly flights tentatively listed until 25OCT25)
Goa Manohar – London Gatwick 3 weekly service suspended
aeroroutes
Infatti! Comodo tirare la colpa addosso ai piloti che non possono difendersi. Fra l'altro che motivo avrebbero per un gesto volontario del genere? Poi in questa teoria non viene spiegato il colpo sentito dal superstite ad esempio. Una spiegazione all'intervento sul pannello è che magari hanno provato a riaccendere i motori, però finché non esce il rapporto magari suffragato da quanto rilevato dalle scatole nere è difficile dare sentenze... a meno che non ti chiami Leonard.
Ok, ma il titolo resta perentorio mentre il contenuto non lo è affatto.
Questo lo fai per attirare click, che oramai sembra essere la cosa più importante per i siti di news.
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