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Sembra che la divisione domestica di VS si avvii verso la chiusura: la motivazione (semi) ufficiale sarebbe correlata con coefficienti di riempimento non soddisfacenti, certamente possibile, ma pare che dietro una simile mossa ci sia DL e l'opportunità di riutilizzare i preziosi slot per altre destinazioni, specialmente guardando all'annuncio di qualche giorno fa inerito alla ristrutturazione del lungo raggio, con focus sul nord atlantico.
Mi pare di ricordare, però, che all'epoca della cessione degli slot da parte di BA, ci fosse una clausola di vincolo sulle destinazioni servibili per almeno tre anni, similmente a quanto applicato ad U2 per la LIN-FCO. Qualcuno ha notizie in merito?

Virgin Atlantic (VS, London Heathrow) is set to phase out its domestic subsidiary, Little Red, just 18 months after it was launched. Quoting unnamed sources close to the airline's operations, The Sunday Times says the decision to wind-up Little Red's operations came after the carrier failed to garner enough market share with some flights operating with only a one-third occupancy rate. Virgin Atlantic is using four A320-200s wet-leased from Aer Lingus (EI, Dublin Int'l) for its Little Red operation.

Launched in 2013, Little Red began with flights from London Heathrow to Manchester Int'l, Edinburgh, and Aberdeen Dyce using slots British Airways (BA, London Heathrow) had relinquished in return for European Commission approval of its takover of bmi british midland (BD, East Midlands).

The news comes just a week after Virgin announced it would be terminating routes to Cape Town, Mumbai Int'l, Vancouver Int'l, and Tokyo Narita as it moves to more closely align its network to that of 49% shareholder, Delta Air Lines (DL, Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson).

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ma pare che dietro una simile mossa ci sia DL e l'opportunità di riutilizzare i preziosi slot per altre destinazioni, specialmente guardando all'annuncio di qualche giorno fa inerito alla ristrutturazione del lungo raggio, con focus sul nord atlantico.
Mi pare di ricordare, però, che all'epoca della cessione degli slot da parte di BA, ci fosse una clausola di vincolo sulle destinazioni servibili per almeno tre anni, similmente a quanto applicato ad U2 per la LIN-FCO. Qualcuno ha notizie in merito?
Penso pure io. Sara' interessante vedere come verranno utilizzati gli slot.
Rigaurdo al prodotto Little Red, ho volato con loro solo un paio di volte negli ultimi 18 mesi (LHR-EDI) ed ho sempre avuto aerei abbastanza pieni ed un ottimo servizio.
 
Re: Little Red by Virgin Atlantic verso la chiusura?

Direi che si può cambiare il titolo del 3ad...
LittleRed chiuderá nel 2015!

Virgin Atlantic scraps Little Red domestic services
Odds were stacked against us, says Sir Richard Branson, as he confirms daily services from London will cease next year

Sir Richard Branson’s Little Red carrier will be wound down amid ‘stiff competition’. Photograph: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images
Virgin Atlantic has announced plans to scrap its domestic airline, Little Red, after just 18 months.

The carrier has struggled to fill seats on its flights linking London Heathrow with Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Manchester, and finally admitted defeat after weeks of speculation that the operation would be axed. Little Red’s daily services to Manchester will end in March; its Scottish services will cease in September.

Sir Richard Branson, the Virgin Atlantic president, claimed the venture had benefited consumers but “the odds were stacked against us”.

Little Red launched in March 2013 after European competition authorities made British Airways relinquish Heathrow slots for domestic flying after its takeover of bmi.

While more than a million passengers have flown on its domestic routes, Virgin Atlantic admitted that demand had been predominantly from point-to-point customers rather than the connecting traffic it had hoped for, feeding more passengers on to its more profitable long-haul routes.

The Virgin Atlantic chief executive, Craig Kreeger, said: “Little Red came about through an enduring passion at Virgin Atlantic to make a difference for our customers. We really wanted it to be a success and everyone involved worked extremely hard and has given it their best efforts.

“It was always a huge challenge on behalf of the consumer, as the totally inadequate number of slots made available by the European commission did not deliver close to BA’s network position, even when supplemented by our own slots to fly between Heathrow and Manchester. The time lag between the takeover of bmi and our entering the market also meant Little Red initially faced an uphill battle to win recognition and convert customers to its services.”

Virgin Atlantic – which is 51% owned by Branson, with the remainder controlled by Delta Air Lines of the US – said Little Red bookings had been rising over the course of the year. But data from the Civil Aviation Authority released in June showed that Little Red’s load factor, or percentage of occupied seats, was as little as 37.6%, far adrift of competitors easyJet and BA.

Little Red was operated for Virgin Atlantic by Ireland’s Aer Lingus on a wet lease basis, meaning that the Dublin-based carrier supplied the crew and the aircraft, albeit in Virgin colours.

Virgin Atlantic expected the venture to struggle for profitability, but hoped the increased network and connections would prove to be sufficiently valuable to make the routes worthwhile, despite the losses bmi had incurred in providing similar services.

Landing in Edinburgh at the launch of Little Red, Branson lifted his kilt to reveal underpants emblazoned “stiff competition”. But on Monday, he conceded that it had been an unequal battle: “When the competition authorities allowed British Airways to take over British Midland and all of its slots, we feared there was little we could do to challenge BA’s huge domestic and European network built through decades of dominance.

“To remedy this, we were offered a meagre package of slots with a number of constraints on how to use them and we decided to lease a few planes on a short-term basis to give it our best shot. The odds were stacked against us and sadly we just couldn’t attract enough corporate business on these routes.”

British Airways’ chief executive, Willie Walsh, recently predicted the demise of Little Red, saying he was “delighted”. Last week, he said: “It’s looking terrible. The fact is that they are struggling – you cannot make money flying planes that are less than half full. I said it would be a mistake and am delighted to be proven correct.”

The slots at Heathrow that were granted to Virgin Atlantic will revert to BA unless another carrier applies to take over the short-haul routes from Little Red.

Virgin Atlantic said it remained committed to its long-haul operations in Manchester and Scotland, from where it flies seasonal routes to US holiday destinations.

The short-haul carrier’s demise came after a major review of Virgin Atlantic’s wider network, which saw a number of destinations including Mumbai, Cape Town and Tokyo axed as it focuses on profitable transatlantic routes.

Virgin Atlantic is planning a £300m investment to improve its planes and lounges over the next four years as it attempts to return firmly to the black. The airline’s first Boeing 787 Dreamliner will enter into service this month.

Kreeger said the airline would be back in profit by the end of 2014, after making substantial losses in recent years, totalling more than £300m from 2009-13.

Virgin Atlantic stressed that passengers could continue to book with Little Red until the service ends, and it would be increasing its air-miles incentives to entice more customers aboard its half-empty planes.


>> http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/06/virgin-atlantic-scraps-little-red-service
>>>> http://incyprus.philenews.com/en-gb...9/virgin-atlantic-to-shut-little-red-services
 
Re: Little Red by Virgin Atlantic verso la chiusura?

Virgin Atlantic Ends London – Manchester Service from late-March 2015

Virgin Atlantic from 29MAR15 is cancelling London Heathrow – Manchester route, where it operates 3 daily flights in Summer, 4 in Winter. Reservation for this route is closed for travel from this date.

Previously planned Summer 2015 schedule:

VS3041 LHR0930 – 1030MAN 320 D
VS3043 LHR1715 – 1815MAN 320 D
VS3045 LHR2045 – 2145MAN 320 D

VS3046 MAN0650 – 0755LHR 320 D
VS3042 MAN1450 – 1550LHR 320 D
VS3044 MAN1855 – 2000LHR 320 D

The airline earlier this week announced the cancellation of “Little Red” service, towards the end of Summer 2015 season.

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Re: Little Red by Virgin Atlantic verso la chiusura?

Virgin Atlantic will axe Little Red in 2015, just two years after launching the domestic brand.
The news doesn't come as a surprise following frequent reports of low passenger load factors (see news, May 2013).
Little Red will stop flying between London and Manchester in March and from London to Aberdeen and Edinburgh next September. It was launched in March last year (see news, March 2013).
Richard Branson, the airline's president, blamed the closure on the "meagre package of slots" awarded to Little Red by the European Commission.
He said: "When the competition authorities allowed British Airways to take over British Midland and all of its slots, we feared there was little we could do to challenge BA's huge domestic and European network built through decades of dominance.
"To remedy this, we were offered a meagre package of slots with a number of constraints on how to use them and we decided to lease a few planes on a short-term basis to give it our best shot.
"The odds were stacked against us and sadly we just couldn't attract enough corporate business on these routes."
Craig Kreeger, Virgin Atlantic chief executive, added: "It was always a huge challenge on behalf of the consumer, as the totally inadequate number of slots made available by the European Commission did not deliver close to BA's network position, even when supplemented by our own slots to fly between Heathrow and Manchester.
"The time lag between the takeover of Bmi and our entering the market also meant Little Red initially faced an uphill battle to win recognition and convert customers to its services.
"While this challenged environment meant Little Red ultimately did not deliver the results we had hoped, this certainly will not dampen our enthusiasm to try new things in the future. "
In April, IAG chief Willie Walsh criticised the decision to award domestic services to Virgin subsidiary Little Red (see news, April 10).
And just last Thursday, Walsh again took aim at Little Red.
He told Business Traveller: "Look at what I've said and look at what they've said. I've said from the very beginning that Little Red will be Big Red, the performance must be awful, it must be costing them a fortune. They've said it's absolutely fantastic.
"They are struggling to get loads factors above 50 per cent — I think they peaked at 47 per cent — and the last I saw it was around the mid-40s. You cannot make money flying the aircraft less than half full. I don't know why they did it. I said at the time I thought it would be a mistake and I'm delighted to be proved correct.
Walsh said that "The slots are BA's, [they] revert to us if they don't use them."
Nevertheless, Walsh admitted that although IAG retained ownership of the slots, "...somebody else could come in and seek those slots to operate on those routes, so even though the slots would revert to us we would have to be able to make them available to someone else."
Asked if BA would operate the slots if no-one else wanted them, Walsh said: "Absolutely, we wouldn't have to fly them on those routes — there's no limitation on how we could use them, the only limitation is they have to be short-haul.
"The limitation was on the person taking the slots they had to commit to recreate competition, and that's why they had to be on those routes."
virgin-atlantic.com
 
Re: Little Red by Virgin Atlantic verso la chiusura?

Confermata la chiusura totale di Little red, le ultime rotte termineranno a settembre 2015:

Virgin Atlantic Ends Little Red Service in late-Sep 2015

Based on schedule listing, Virgin Atlantic is set to operate last Little Red domestic service on 26SEP15. In Summer 2015 season, up to 26SEP15, Virgin offers 3 daily London Heathrow – Aberdeen and 6 daily London Heathrow – Edinburgh service.

London Heathrow – Aberdeen
VS3021 LHR0910 – 1040ABZ 320 D
VS3023 LHR1525 – 1655ABZ 320 D
VS3025 LHR2015 – 2145ABZ 320 D

VS3026 ABZ0635 – 0815LHR 320 D
VS3022 ABZ1155 – 1335LHR 320 D
VS3024 ABZ1735 – 1910LHR 320 D

London Heathrow – Edinburgh
VS3001 LHR0650 – 0810EDI 320 D
VS3003 LHR0920 – 1040EDI 320 D
VS3005 LHR1120 – 1240EDI 320 D
VS3007 LHR1515 – 1635EDI 320 D
VS3009 LHR1625 – 1745EDI 320 D
VS3011 LHR1950 – 2110EDI 320 D

VS3012 EDI0635 – 0805LHR 320 D
VS3002 EDI0910 – 1040LHR 320 D
VS3004 EDI1120 – 1250LHR 320 D
VS3006 EDI1320 – 1450LHR 320 D
VS3008 EDI1725 – 1855LHR 320 D
VS3010 EDI1850 – 2020LHR 320 D

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In risposta alla chiusura di Little Red, Willie Walsh ha confermato l'intenzione di BA a continuare ad operare rotte domestiche da LHR "finche' i clienti lo richiedono":

BA will keep domestic routes going

British Airways will continue to operate domestic routes from Heathrow “as long as customers want them”, according to Willie Walsh.

Walsh, chief executive of BA’s parent company International Airlines Group, said that BA would continue flying domestic routes from Heathrow even though the carrier plans to convert more short-haul routes into long-haul services
“This will not necessarily mean getting rid of domestic routes,” said Walsh during the Airport Operators Association (AOA) conference in London.
“We stopped Rotterdam and used those flights to grow the long-haul network.
“We will continue to fly to UK airports as long as customers want them – we do it for commercial reasons.”

Walsh then made a thinly veiled jibe at the failure of Virgin Atlantic’s Little Red domestic services when he added that “other airlines have bailed out because it’s too tough”.
Virgin’s Little Red services from Heathrow to Manchester are due to end in March while flights from Heathrow to Edinburgh and Aberdeen will continue until September 2015.
Virgin Atlantic chief executive Craig Kreeger said that Little Red had failed to generate sufficient levels of traffic.
“It’s a small piece of the network and was not big enough to be successful,” he told the AOA conference.
Kreeger added that Virgin had not decided what to do with the three daily Heathrow-Manchester slots when the route is axed.
BA currently flies from Heathrow to UK airports including Aberdeen, Belfast, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Manchester, Leeds-Bradford
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Re: Little Red by Virgin Atlantic verso la chiusura?

Virgin Atlantic (VS, London Heathrow) has completely terminated its 'Little Red' operations as of Saturday, September 26. Research indicates the project's remaining trio of A320-200s has already been returned to Aer Lingus (EI, Dublin Int'l) with EI-EZW (cn 1983) and EI-DUB (cn 55) now in Shannon while EI-EZV (cn 2001) is now in Dublin Int'l.


Launched in 2013, Little Red began domestic UK flights using London Heathrow slots British Airways (BA, London Heathrow) had relinquished in return for European Commission approval of its takeover of bmi british midland (BD, East Midlands). However, in October last year, Virgin conceded that the project had failed to make an impact against the likes of British Airways and moved to end its operations.


As such, flights to Manchester Int'l ended in March this year leaving only Aberdeen Dyce and Edinburgh both of which ceased this past weekend.

ch-aviation
 
Il loro compito l'han fatto, ora Branson ha un'altra coppia di slot (o due?) in piu', e non ha nemmeno dovuto pagare troppo per prenderli.
 
Gli slot non sono stati restituiti tutti a BA?

DaV

No. Gli slot per ABZ/EDI/GLA sono vincolati a quelle tre rotte per un tot di anni, e poi possono solo essere usati per rotte europee, e credo che torneranno (o sono gia' tornati) in IAG. Tre slot, quelli per MAN, rimarranno a VS per fare cio' che vorra', verosimilmente nuove rotte per Delta (oramai di non atlantico, in VS, rimane ben poco).

A conti fatti, con quel che costano gli slot a LHR, fare Little Red e' stato un buon affare. Alla faccia della 'stiff competition' (o del "Four engines for long haul", o il "no way BA/AA"... Oggi ce l'ho un po' col gruppo Virgin, scusatemi).
 
No. Gli slot per ABZ/EDI/GLA sono vincolati a quelle tre rotte per un tot di anni, e poi possono solo essere usati per rotte europee, e credo che torneranno (o sono gia' tornati) in IAG. Tre slot, quelli per MAN, rimarranno a VS per fare cio' che vorra', verosimilmente nuove rotte per Delta (oramai di non atlantico, in VS, rimane ben poco).

A conti fatti, con quel che costano gli slot a LHR, fare Little Red e' stato un buon affare. Alla faccia della 'stiff competition' (o del "Four engines for long haul", o il "no way BA/AA"... Oggi ce l'ho un po' col gruppo Virgin, scusatemi).

Lo ignoravo. Grazie della spiegazione!

DaV
 
No. Gli slot per ABZ/EDI/GLA sono vincolati a quelle tre rotte per un tot di anni, e poi possono solo essere usati per rotte europee, e credo che torneranno (o sono gia' tornati) in IAG. Tre slot, quelli per MAN, rimarranno a VS per fare cio' che vorra', verosimilmente nuove rotte per Delta (oramai di non atlantico, in VS, rimane ben poco).

A conti fatti, con quel che costano gli slot a LHR, fare Little Red e' stato un buon affare. Alla faccia della 'stiff competition' (o del "Four engines for long haul", o il "no way BA/AA"... Oggi ce l'ho un po' col gruppo Virgin, scusatemi).
E pensare che c'era chi (non te sia chiaro) diceva che Brunson avrebbe tenuto testa a Delta...