Alitalia A320 at Rome and Pisa on Jul 5th 2011, fuel emergency


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An Alitalia Airbus A320-200, registration EI-DTL performing flight AZ-2019 from Milan Linate to Rome Fiumicino (Italy), entered a holding near Perugia about 60nm north of Rome before continuing to a position about 20nm south of Rome while on approach to Rome, but then aborted the approach to Rome at FL100 due to poor weather conditions at both Rome Fiumicino and Rome Ciampino Airports. After spending about 30 minutes in total while waiting for weather to improve the crew decided to divert to Pisa where the aircraft landed safely about 50 minutes after scheduled arrival time in Rome.

The aircraft departed Pisa again and reached Rome Fiumicino with a delay of 3 hours.

Italy's Agenzia Nazionale per la Sicurezza del Volo (ANSV) reported that the aircraft landed in Pisa in fuel emergency and rated the occurrence a serious incident. An investigation has been initiated.

Metars Fiumicino:
LIRF 050850Z 11008KT 9999 FEW030 SCT045 20/19 Q1013 NOSIG
LIRF 050820Z 04004KT 010V090 9999 BKN045 20/19 Q1013 RERA NOSIG
LIRF 050750Z 11004KT 020V180 9000 RA SCT012TCU BKN030 19/18 Q1012 RETS NOSIG
LIRF 050720Z 02008KT 350V050 9000 -TSRA SCT015CB BKN030 19/16 Q1013 WS RWY 16R/16L NOSIG
LIRF 050650Z 18010KT 9000 VCTS FEW015CB SCT025TCU 25/21 Q1012 WS RWY 16R/16L BECMG 4000 TSRA SCT015CB
LIRF 050650Z 18010KT 9000 VCTS FEW015CB SCT025TCU 25/21 Q1012 RMK WS RWY 16R/16L BECMG 4000 TSRA SCT015CB
LIRF 050620Z 17009KT 9000 FEW020TCU SCT045 25/21 Q1012 BECMG 4000 TSRA SCT015CB
LIRF 050550Z 16011KT 9000 FEW030 25/20 Q1011 NOSIG

Metars Ciampino:
IRA 050845Z 06004KT 9999 -RA FEW002 BKN025 18/18 Q1013 RETS
LIRA 050815Z 08008KT 040V100 9999 -TSRA SCT012 FEW018CB SCT025 17/17 Q1013
LIRA 050745Z 05009KT 010V090 7000 3000S TS RA BR SCT012 SCT016CB 17/17 Q1014
LIRA 050715Z 23012G34KT 150V340 8000 TSRA SCT012 SCT016CB 25/21 Q1014
LIRA 050645Z 16012KT 9999 FEW016 FEW018CB SCT040 25/21 Q1012
LIRA 050615Z 15013KT 9999 FEW016 FEW018CB SCT060 25/21 Q1011
LIRA 050545Z 16011KT 9999 SCT018 SCT060 25/21 Q1012
LIRA 050515Z 15013KT 9999 SCT013 FEW018TCU 24/21 Q1012

Metars Pisa:
LIRP 050845Z 32001KT 9999 FEW030TCU SCT070 25/18 Q1012 BECMG 26010KT
LIRP 050815Z 09004KT 9999 FEW030TCU SCT070 23/19 Q1012 NOSIG
LIRP 050745Z 11004KT 9999 FEW030TCU SCT080 22/19 Q1012 NOSIG
LIRP 050715Z 15005KT 9999 FEW030 BKN080 21/19 Q1012 NOSIG
LIRP 050645Z 00000KT 9999 FEW030 BKN080 21/19 Q1011 NOSIG
LIRP 050615Z 00000KT 9999 FEW030 BKN080 20/19 Q1011 NOSIG
LIRP 050545Z 00000KT 9999 FEW030 BKN080 20/19 Q1011 NOSIG
LIRP 050515Z 00000KT 9999 FEW030 BKN070 20/19 Q1011 TEMPO FEW018CB

fonte:avherald
 
Inconveniente grave ad un A320

L’ANSV ha aperto un’inchiesta di sicurezza sull’inconveniente grave che ha interessato l’aeromobile A320 marche EI-DTL, che, martedì 5 luglio, decollato da Milano Linate per Roma Fiumicino, a causa delle avverse condizioni meteorologiche sull’aeroporto di destinazione e su quello di Roma Ciampino, atterrava in emergenza carburante a Pisa.

http://www.ansv.it/It/Detail.asp?ID=1456


Sto volo Milano-Roma sarà risultato eterno per i passeggeri, immagino che dopo sarà ripartito da PSA alla volta di FCO una volta che il tempo si fosse sistemato.
 
l'ANSV ha pubblicato l'interim report dell'inconveniente grave occorso al 320 Alitalia EI-DTL tra Pisa e Roma il 5/7/11:

Italian ANSV reported in an interim statement on Jan 9th 2013, that the aircraft departed Milan Linate with 5000kg of fuel on board at 06:16Z, which included 354 kg of extra fuel. Rome Ciampino was planned as the alternate aerodrome.

About 60nm north of Fiumicino Airport the crew was informed that weather conditions at Fiumicino had worsened, windshear was in the approach path to both runways 16, and there were aircraft in holding patterns already waiting for arrival. EI-DTL was therefore instructed to hold at their present position (waypoint GITOD) 60nm north of Fiumicino. The crew checked the weather reports of Fiumicino and Ciampino Airports and decided to divert to Pisa in case a diversion would become necessary. After a few rounds in the hold at GITOD the aircraft was instructed to continue to TAQ VOR at low speed, where they would join another hold. Runway 25 only was active for arrivals at Fiumicino Airport. The crew advised that if landing wasn't assured within short time they would need to divert to Pisa. A few minutes later ATC instructed the aircraft to leave TAQ Vor on vectoring for an approach to runway 25, the crew realised the vectors would guide them away from the Fiumicino aerodrome and requested to shorten their flight path otherwise they would need to divert. After another frequency change, about 15nm south of the aerodrome still on vectors leading away from the aerodrome, the crew was instructed to fly to LAT VOR, 34nm south of the aerodrome, to join a hold there, the controller stated the preceding aircraft had not been able to land, too, due to worsening weather conditions.

The crew therefore decided to abandon the approach to Rome and to divert to Pisa. While enroute to Pisa the crew determined they would need to cut into their final fuel reserve before landing and declared emergency. The crew was vectored directly to an approach and landing on Pisa's runway 04 at 07:56Z.

The interim statement does not state how much fuel remained on board after landing and whether the aircraft landed with the final fuel reserve intact or with less than the required minimum fuel.

fonte: avherald
 
speedbird437 ha detto:
Metars Fiumicino:
LIRF 050850Z 11008KT 9999 FEW030 SCT045 20/19 Q1013 NOSIG
LIRF 050820Z 04004KT 010V090 9999 BKN045 20/19 Q1013 RERA NOSIG
LIRF 050750Z 11004KT 020V180 9000 RA SCT012TCU BKN030 19/18 Q1012 RETS NOSIG
LIRF 050720Z 02008KT 350V050 9000 -TSRA SCT015CB BKN030 19/16 Q1013 WS RWY 16R/16L NOSIG
LIRF 050650Z 18010KT 9000 VCTS FEW015CB SCT025TCU 25/21 Q1012 WS RWY 16R/16L BECMG 4000 TSRA SCT015CB
LIRF 050650Z 18010KT 9000 VCTS FEW015CB SCT025TCU 25/21 Q1012 RMK WS RWY 16R/16L BECMG 4000 TSRA SCT015CB
LIRF 050620Z 17009KT 9000 FEW020TCU SCT045 25/21 Q1012 BECMG 4000 TSRA SCT015CB
LIRF 050550Z 16011KT 9000 FEW030 25/20 Q1011 NOSIG
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Non avete i TAF di FCO e CIA?
 
I-DADO ha detto:
Meno male che certe "disavventure" capitano solo a FR. Certo che un'emergency fuel su un volo di 313mi è da record con un A320.
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Premettendo che è sempre facile parlare da una sedia di scrvania, ci sono molte considerazioni da fare. Mi piacerebbe discuterne ma prima vorrei vedere i TAF..
 
I-DADO ha detto:
Meno male che certe "disavventure" capitano solo a FR. Certo che un'emergency fuel su un volo di 313mi è da record con un A320.
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...beh... non mi semba che ad AZ siano capitati 3, e sottolineo 3, "fuel emergency" nella stessa giornata e nello stesso (se non erro, nel caso mi scuso!) aeroporto...!?
 
I-DADO ha detto:
Meno male che certe "disavventure" capitano solo a FR. Certo che un'emergency fuel su un volo di 313mi è da record con un A320.
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Se devi far polemica, falla bene: si dice fuel emergency, o alle brutte mayday fuel.

Al di là della forma, la relazione intermedia di ANSV non dice granché sul punto cruciale, ossia sulla decisione presa dall'equipaggio.

Per ora ci sono solo:

- fatti relativi allo svolgimento del volo fino alla dichiarazione di emergenza
- i bollettini degli aeroporti romani al momento della decisione di dirottare

Effettivamente, i TAF di LIRF/LIRA (e il grande assente dal report: LIRN?) potrebbero essere utili per capire di quali elementi disponessero i piloti prima del volo.
 
bombatutto ha detto:
Premettendo che è sempre facile parlare da una sedia di scrvania, ci sono molte considerazioni da fare. Mi piacerebbe discuterne ma prima vorrei vedere i TAF..
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FT05/07/2011 11:00->[SIZE=-1]
TAF LIRF 051100Z 0512/0618 18012KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 0512/0515 4000 TSRA SCT015CB BECMG 0517/0519 VRB05KT BECMG 0608/0610 26012KT=[/SIZE]
FT05/07/2011 05:00->[SIZE=-1]
TAF LIRF 050500Z 0506/0612 12010KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 0506/0516 4000 TSRA SCT014CB BKN030 BECMG 0508/0510 24012KT BECMG 0517/0519 34008KT=[/SIZE]
FT04/07/2011 23:00->[SIZE=-1]
TAF LIRF 042300Z 0500/0606 12010KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 0506/0516 4000 TSRA SCT014CB BKN030 BECMG 0508/0510 24012KT BECMG 0517/0519 34008KT=[/SIZE]
 
which included 354 kg of extra fuel
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Con TSRA previsti solo 354 Kg di Extra? Quello lo metto quando c'è CAVOK...

E come diceva qualcuno giustamente, il grande assente LIRN? Vettorati a sud di FCO sono andati a Pisa?

O mancano elementi (comunicazioni da parte del Coordinamento Operativo di compagnia via radio per esempio) oppure non capisco...
 
speedbird437 ha detto:
l'ANSV ha pubblicato l'interim report dell'inconveniente grave occorso al 320 Alitalia EI-DTL tra Pisa e Roma il 5/7/11:

Italian ANSV reported in an interim statement on Jan 9th 2013, that the aircraft departed Milan Linate with 5000kg of fuel on board at 06:16Z, which included 354 kg of extra fuel. Rome Ciampino was planned as the alternate aerodrome.

About 60nm north of Fiumicino Airport the crew was informed that weather conditions at Fiumicino had worsened, windshear was in the approach path to both runways 16, and there were aircraft in holding patterns already waiting for arrival. EI-DTL was therefore instructed to hold at their present position (waypoint GITOD) 60nm north of Fiumicino. The crew checked the weather reports of Fiumicino and Ciampino Airports and decided to divert to Pisa in case a diversion would become necessary. After a few rounds in the hold at GITOD the aircraft was instructed to continue to TAQ VOR at low speed, where they would join another hold. Runway 25 only was active for arrivals at Fiumicino Airport. The crew advised that if landing wasn't assured within short time they would need to divert to Pisa. A few minutes later ATC instructed the aircraft to leave TAQ Vor on vectoring for an approach to runway 25, the crew realised the vectors would guide them away from the Fiumicino aerodrome and requested to shorten their flight path otherwise they would need to divert. After another frequency change, about 15nm south of the aerodrome still on vectors leading away from the aerodrome, the crew was instructed to fly to LAT VOR, 34nm south of the aerodrome, to join a hold there, the controller stated the preceding aircraft had not been able to land, too, due to worsening weather conditions.

The crew therefore decided to abandon the approach to Rome and to divert to Pisa. While enroute to Pisa the crew determined they would need to cut into their final fuel reserve before landing and declared emergency. The crew was vectored directly to an approach and landing on Pisa's runway 04 at 07:56Z.

The interim statement does not state how much fuel remained on board after landing and whether the aircraft landed with the final fuel reserve intact or with less than the required minimum fuel.

fonte: avherald
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Non sarebbe stato più semplice deviare su Pescara che dista circa 100 Km di meno da Pisa?
 
speedbird437 ha detto:
Non conosciamo il meteo di LIRN.
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speedbird437 ha detto:
Non conosciamo neppure il meteo di Pescara.
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SA05/07/2011 06:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050650Z 21005KT 150V250 9999 RA SCT020 SCT050 BKN070 25/18 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 06:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050620Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW015 SCT050 BKN070 25/18 Q1014=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 05:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050550Z 04005KT 360V060 9999 SCT050 24/18 Q1013=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 05:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050520Z 05004KT 020V080 9999 SCT05PNN=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 04:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050450Z 04004KT 020V080 9999 SCT050 22/18 Q1014=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 04:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050420Z 03003KT 9999 SCT050 21/18 Q1014=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 03:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050350Z 05003KT 010V070 9999 SCT050 21/18 Q1014=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 03:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050320Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT050 22/18 Q1014=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 02:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050250Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT050 22/19 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 02:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050220Z 09003KT 9999 SCT050 22/19 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 01:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050150Z 02003G40KT 350V070 9999 SCT050 22/19 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 01:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050120Z 09004KT 9999 FEW050 22/18 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 00:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050050Z 05003KT 020V090 9999 SCT040 22/19 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 00:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 050020Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT040 23/20 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 23:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 042350Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT040 23/20 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 23:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 042320Z VRB01KT CAVOK 23/20 Q1016=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 22:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 042250Z 20003KT 160V230 CAVOK 23/20 Q1016=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 22:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 042220Z VRB02KT CAVOK 23/20 Q1016=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 21:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 042150Z 19002KT CAVOK 23/20 Q1015=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 21:20->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIRN 042120Z VRB02KT CAVOK 23/20 Q1015=[/SIZE]
METAR/SPECI from LIRN, Napoli / Capodichino (Italy).

[h=3]No short TAF reports from LIRN during solicited interval in the database.[/h]

FT05/07/2011 05:00->[SIZE=-1]
TAF LIRN 050500Z 0506/0606 18006KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 0506/0521 4000 TSRA SCT014CB BECMG 0507/0509 22010KT=[/SIZE]
FT04/07/2011 23:00->[SIZE=-1]
TAF LIRN 042300Z 0500/0524 18006KT 9999 SCT030 TEMPO 0506/0521 4000 TSRA SCT014CB BECMG 0507/0509 22010KT=[/SIZE]
large TAF from LIRN, Napoli / Capodichino (Italy).

[TD="align: center"] LIBP, Pescara (Italy).
WMO index: 16230. Latitude 42-26N. Longitude 014-12E. Altitude 10 m. [/TD]


SA05/07/2011 06:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 050650Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT050 25/19 Q1011 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 05:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 050550Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW070 23/20 Q1012 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 04:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 050450Z VRB03KT 9999 FEW070 21/19 Q1011 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 02:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 050250Z VRB01KT 9999 FEW090 22/19 Q1012 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 01:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 050150Z 23004KT 9999 SCT090 22/20 Q1012 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA05/07/2011 00:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 050050Z VRB01KT 9999 BKN090 23/20 Q1012 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 23:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 042350Z VRB03KT 9999 BKN090 22/20 Q1012 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 22:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 042250Z VRB03KT 9999 SCT090 23/19 Q1013 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
SA04/07/2011 21:50->[SIZE=-1]
METAR LIBP 042150Z VRB02KT 9999 BKN090 24/20 Q1012 RMK VIS MIN 9999=[/SIZE]
METAR/SPECI from LIBP, Pescara (Italy).

[h=3]No short TAF reports from LIBP during solicited interval in the database.[/h]

FT05/07/2011 05:00->[SIZE=-1]
TAF LIBP 050500Z 0506/0606 VRB05KT 9999 SCT025 SCT070 TEMPO 0506/0518 4000 TSRA SCT014CB BECMG 0508/0510 20010KT BECMG 0518/0520 VRB04KT=[/SIZE]
FT04/07/2011 23:00->[SIZE=-1]
TAF LIBP 042300Z 0500/0524 VRB05KT 9999 SCT025 SCT070 TEMPO 0506/0518 4000 TSRA SCT014CB BECMG 0508/0510 20010KT BECMG 0518/0520 VRB04KT=[/SIZE]
large TAF from LIBP, Pescara (Italy).
 
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