Norwegian vuole aprire una base Long Haul in Irlanda

[kenyaprince]

Norwegian Air Shuttle sta cercando il via libera dalle autorità di regolamentazione per poter aprire una una base per le sue operazioni a lungo raggio al di fuori della Scandinavia.
La compagnia aerea all'inizio di quest'anno ha preso in considerazione una serie di localitàin particolare in Irlanda per poter aprire una filiale a lungo raggio al fine di aggirare le costose regolamentazioni nella sua terra d'origine.
Il portavoce della compagnia Lassek Sandaker-Nielsen ha confermato ieri di essere in trattative circa la possibilità di ottenere un certificato di operatore aereo irlandese (COA) per il nuovo business. Tuttavia, ha insistito sul fatto che "questo non è lo stesso che aprire una base operativa".
L'Irish Aviation Authority (IAA), che è responsabile per la concessione di questi permessi, non ha commentato, ma lascia intendere che ci sia una richiesta da parte del vettore norvegese.
La compagnia aerea ha cercato di registrare l'attività di lungo raggio fuori della Norvegia per aggirare norme che si applicano nel paese scandinavo nel tentativo di tagliare i costi.
Questi hanno incluso restrizioni che impediscono alle compagnie aeree di assumere personale di cabina da paesi in cui i salari sono più bassi che in Norvegia.
Nel frattempo sono iniziati i voli a lungo raggio da Stoccolma a New York e Bangkok con il nuovo arrivato in flotta , il B787 dopo che nello scorso giugno aveva iniziato le operazioni a lungo raggio con 2 A340-300 in leasing da Hi Fly a causa dei ritardi del 787 a seguito della messa a terra globale del velivolo relativi ai noti problemi delle batterie.
Norwegian, che ha otto 787 in ordine attraverso contratti di locazione e consegne dirette, ha preso in consegna il suo primo 787 a giugno. La compagnia aerea ha operato e sta operando il nuovo liner anche sulle rotte europee a fini addestrativi. Tre 787 saranno consegnati nel 2013, quattro nel 2014 e uno nel 2015.
La compagnia ha annunciato che ha stabilito un nuovo record mensile a luglio, quando ha trasportato 2,13 milioni di passeggeri, con un incremento del 17% anno su anno. Il LF del mese è stato dell'86%, 1% in meno rispetto allo stesso periodo dell'anno scorso.

 

[ryanmaverick]

parlano anche di lasciare bangkok e aprire base a miami e new york....

 

[kenyaprince]

Invece per ora aprono queste rotte :



[h=1]Norwegian Adds New Long-Haul Routes in 2014[/h]by JL
Update at 0910GMT 03SEP13

Norwegian today (03SEP13) announced its planned new long-haul routes in 2014, which includes new service launch to Los Angeles, Oakland and Orlando. Planned new routes and operational schedule (effective 01MAY14) as follow.
Copenhagen – New York JFK eff 28FEB14 2 weekly (Day 15; 4 weekly from 30APR14)
DY7011 CPH1740 – 2000JFK 788 13
DY7011 CPH1840 – 2100JFK 788 57
DY7012 JFK2200 – 1140+1CPH 788 13
DY7012 JFK2230 – 1210+1CPH 788 57
Copenhagen – Los Angeles eff 01MAR14 2 weekly (3 weekly from 01MAY14)
DY7091 CPH1510 – 1730LAX 788 246
DY7092 LAX1930 – 1520+1CPH 788 246
Operational day and schedule varies in March and April 2014
Stockholm – Los Angeles eff 02MAR14 2 weekly (3 weekly from 30APR14)
DY7087 ARN1400 – 1615LAX 788 135
DY7088 LAX1815 – 1355+1ARN 788 135
Operational day and schedule varies in March and April 2014
Stockholm – Oakland eff 03MAY14 2 weekly
DY7067 ARN1630 – 1800OAK 788 26
DY7068 OAK1930 – 1430+1ARN 788 26
Oslo – Oakland eff 28MAY14 3 weekly
DY7063 OSL1600 – 1715OAK 788 135
DY7064 OAK1845 – 1325+1OSL 788 135
Oslo – Orlando eff 29MAY14 2 weekly
DY7051 OSL1620 – 2035MCO 788 46
DY7052 MCO2205 – 1300+1OSL 788 46
Oslo – Los Angeles eff 01JUN14 1 weekly
DY7083 OSL1510 – 1705LAX 788 7
DY7084 LAX1835 – 1350+1OSL 788 7
Reservation for all services listed above will be opened for reservation soon. Service on Copenhagen – New York route is now open for reservation.

 

[freez267]

parlano anche di lasciare bangkok e aprire base a miami e new york....

Insomma ovunque che non sia la scandinavia

 

[EI-MAW]

DY sempre più irlandese:

Norwegian (DY, Oslo Gardermoen) will register its next B737-800, due in October, at its newly created Irish company according to Hangar.no. Airline CFO, Frode Foss, said the incorporation of a new company in Ireland would limit its exposure to currency fluctuations as is currently the case with its Norwegian operations. Norwegian (DY, Oslo Gardermoen) entered into discussions with the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) to obtain a permanent Irish air operator’s certificate (AOC) for its longhaul division Norwegian Long Haul (DU, Oslo Gardermoen). The Norwegian carrier already holds a temporary AOC from the IAA.

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

Dopo le mancate autorizzazioni per aprire una base di lungo raggio in Irlanda, Norwegian ci riprova, questa volta vuole ottenere un AOC USA. Anche qui polemiche a non finire e il tutto è diventato un caso diplomatico tra UE e USA.

Norwegian Air International (Dublin Int'l) is set to generate more controversy after the European Commission (EC) last week called for an extraordinary meeting with the United States to discuss the carrier's pending application with the US Department of Transportation for a US foreign air carrier permit.

Though the DOT did dismiss the carrier's application for exemption authority early last month on the grounds that "it was not in the public's interest," it did state that it would require more time to consider its foreign air carrier permit application.

As a result, Brussels has raised numerous concerns with Washington over the latter's decision to drag out Norwegian's application.

“This is a fundamental issue,” Siim Kallas, a vice president of the European Commission in charge of transport, said last month. “The Norwegian subsidiary is a European company, so its application can only be treated based on the EU-US [Open Skies] agreement of 2007.”

The carrier's application has faced intense resistance from US politicians as well as airlines and unions on both sides of the Atlantic, all of which accuse it of using an Irish Air Operator's Certificate (AOC) as a means of circumventing costly Norwegian labour regulations through their hiring of Thai crews. This, they claim, provides it an "unfair competitive" advantage.

The Norwegian (DY, Oslo Gardermoen) subsidiary, however, has rejected those allegations stating that all its operations follow each country's labour regulations in accordance with that country's laws.

"It is important to stress that Ireland was not chosen because the country has specific rules and regulations that allow the use of American or Asian crew, like some politicians and unions have claimed. The fact is that Norwegian could have based its long-haul company in any other European country and still used American and Asian crew, the way several other European airlines have been operating for years," the carrier argued. "Norwegian’s employees in the U.S. follow U.S. labour laws, the company’s employees in Norway follow Norwegian labour laws and employees in the UK follow UK labour laws, etc."

Norwegian further added that it chose Ireland also because the country is a full signatory to the Cape Town Convention, which therefore will provide it with better financing conditions apropos its back order for 250+ aircraft.

ch-aviation

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

Continua la pressione diplomatica di Norwegian per ottenere lo status di compagnia USA per la sua divisione con AOC Irlandese.

Comunicato Stampa Norwegian

Bjørn Kjos in the US: “We do what Obama wants – we create jobs for Americans and offer Americans cheap flights”

Today, Norwegian's CEO Bjørn Kjos will call on the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) to once and for all approve the application for a foreign air carrier permit for the company’s Irish subsidiary Norwegian Air International (NAI) in a speech in Washington D.C.

“We are doing exactly what the Obama administration wants: create American jobs, bring tourists to the United States and offer Americans cheap flights. The transatlantic market has far too long been dominated by alliances that have been allowed to rule the market with high prices and limited choice,” says Bjørn Kjos.

Norwegian’s CEO will address why it is high time that the U.S. government approves Norwegian’s EU-based long-haul company’s application for a foreign air carrier permit, which received its Irish Air Operator’s Certificates (AOC) in February. The application for an American air carrier permit has been under consideration ever since and has been vigorously opposed by competitors and unions.

NAI meets all statutory and regulatory requirements to fly to and from the USA. Norwegian Air Shuttle currently operates the routes between Europe and the USA. The main reason why Norwegian has established a long-haul company in Ireland is to gain access to traffic rights in the EU, since Norway is not a member of the EU.By gaining a foothold in the EU, Norwegian will be able to offer many new international routes in the future.


“It has taken far too long for DOT to fulfil its legal responsibility and approve NAI’s application. Our vision is that ‘Everyone Should Afford to Fly’, and it is a principle we intend to continue with, also with Norwegian Air International and flights between the US and Europe,” says Kjos.

Today, Norwegian has two bases in the U.S. It employs 300 cabin crew members in Fort Lauderdale and New York, and is currently recruiting American pilots at its New York pilot base. Of the 300 cabin crew, for which Norwegian received more than 7,000 applications, the vast majority had previously worked for U.S. airlines like Delta, American and United, and chose to join Norwegian for the pay, benefits, working environment, as well as the chance to fly brand new Dreamliner aircraft.

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

Da segnalare le due interpretazioni opposte sullo status della Norvegia, per l'Italia è equiparata a livello aeronautico a un paese UE e potrebbe ad esempio aprire voli su Linate, per gli Americani non ha lo status di nazione europea.

 

[londonfog]

Da segnalare le due interpretazioni opposte sullo status della Norvegia, per l'Italia è equiparata a livello aeronautico a un paese UE e potrebbe ad esempio aprire voli su Linate, per gli Americani non ha lo status di nazione europea.

Ci sono due situazioni legali diverse. UE e USA hanno un trattato bilaterale di Open Skies. Una qualsiasi compagnia registrata nell'UE puo' volare quante volte vuole verso gli usa e vice versa. Finora solo BA con Open Skies ha voli verso gli USA che partono da uno stato diverso da quello di registrazione dell'AOC (UK). La Norvegia (come la Svizzera) ha altri trattati con UE che equiparano le linee aeree norvegesi a linee aeree UE.

I due accordi sono diversi e completamente separati non c'e' nessuna 'proprieta' transitiva'. Per gli USA la Norvegia non rientra nel trattato 'open skies' con UE, c'e' un trattato Open Skies diverso ma una compagnia Norvegese non puo' operare voli da UE a USA.

I voli LGW-USA sono operati con AOC irlandese.

Nessun 'combloddo' in corso!

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

I voli LGW-USA sono operati con AOC irlandese.

Anche i voli da CPH e ARN verso gli USA?

 

[londonfog]

Anche i voli da CPH e ARN verso gli USA?

Questo non te lo so dire. I casi sono due, o sono operati con AOC irlandese o esiste un accordo 'Scandinavo'. Sono sicuro su quelli di LGW, mi ricordo di averlo letto sul Financial Times qualche mese fa.

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

Questo non te lo so dire. I casi sono due, o sono operati con AOC irlandese o esiste un accordo 'Scandinavo'. Sono sicuro su quelli di LGW, mi ricordo di averlo letto sul Financial Times qualche mese fa.

Stanno chiedendo che gli USA riconoscano il loro AOC irlandese per poter aumentare i voli usufruendo dell' Open sky UE-USA. Ma come dici i voli da LGW già sono operati con AOC irlandese. Quindi non capisco qual' è il problema.

 

[Paolo_61]

Stanno chiedendo che gli USA riconoscano il loro AOC irlandese per poter aumentare i voli usufruendo dell' Open sky UE-USA. Ma come dici i voli da LGW già sono operati con AOC irlandese. Quindi non capisco qual' è il problema.

Il problema potrebbe essere la proprietà effettiva della società irlandese titolare dell'AOC. Infatti per la legge comunitaria la cosa dovrebbe essere indifferente, in quanto la Norvegia è "equiparata", mentre per la legge USA potrebbe non essere considerata una società comunitaria, anche se con sede in Irlanda, in quanto di proprietà effettiva di un socio non comunitario. Questo spiegherebbe la possibilità di diniego dell'autorizzazione ad operare la tratte.

 

[TW 843]

188 House members urge Norwegian Air rejection




A bipartisan group of 188 lawmakers is urging the Department of Transportation (DOT) to reject Norwegian Airlines’ bid to increase flights to airports in the U.S. and Europe.

Norwegian Air is attempting to gain access to airports that are covered under the U.S. and European Union’s Open Skies agreement by registering its airplanes in Ireland, which is a member of the EU.

The Scandinavian company has said it will be able to offer transatlantic flights for as low as $150 each way if its effort is approved by the Department of Transportation, where it has been pending for most of the year.

However, a group of 188 lawmakers signed a letter this week to Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx urging him to reject the Norwegian Air (NAI) bid because they said it would be unfair to U.S. airlines that register their airplanes domestically and abide by strict federal aviation rules.

“We urge DOT to deny NAI's pending application for a foreign air carrier permit,” the lawmakers wrote. “We remain concerned that granting NAI's application for a foreign air carrier permit would not be in the public interest and would unfairly put domestic airlines at a competitive disadvantage.

We also reiterate our belief that the business model of NAI does not comply with the provisions of the U.S.-EU Open Skies Agreement.”

The letter, which was spearheaded by Reps. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) and Albio Sires (D-N.J.), comes ahead of a scheduled meeting between transportation officials in the Obama administration and their counterparts from the European Union about the controversial Norwegian Air bid this week.

Labor unions that represent pilots and flight attendants that work for U.S.-based airlines have campaigned vocally against the Norwegian Air “Open Skies” application for nearly a year, arguing the company is only able to offer lower ticket prices for international flights because it skirts labor laws that are normally applied to air carriers.

The airline’s CEO, Bjorn Kjos, said in a speech in Washington last week that opponents of his company’s plans were painting a false picture of its operations.

“It’s a Boeing. It’s the same crew. It’s the same pilots and they’re definitely not unsafe,” Kjos said of the planes Norwegian Air would fly to the U.S. if its “Open Skies” application is approved.

Norwegian Air currently flies planes that are registered in its home country to airports in New York, California and Florida under a subsidy company that is known as Norwegian Air Shuttle. The company argues the low-cost business model for his company's main airline requires access to more "Open Skies" airports in Europe, which also requires U.S. approval as part of the original agreement, to provide more route flexibility in its flight network.

Norwegian Air has been trying to get approval for a full foreign carrier permit by registering its airplanes in Ireland instead of in its home country, which has riled members of the U.S. aviation industry because they argue that Irish aviation regulations are more lax than other EU nations.

Critics of Norwegian Air's bid already won a victory from the Obama administration when the DOT ruled in September that the company did not qualify for an exemption that allows foreign carriers who are seeking access to U.S. airports under the Open Skies agreement to begin providing flights while their full applications are still being review by federal regulators.

The lawmakers who wrote to Foxx this week said the DOT should press forward now with a full rejection of Norwegian Air, noting that the Republican-led House has already passed legislation intended to prevent maneuvers like the company is attempting now.

“That initial decision by DOT was critically important to the U.S. aviation industry and its hundreds of thousands of employees who strive to compete on a level playing field,” the letter said.

“As you know, in June, the U.S. House of Representatives unanimously passed an amendment that would require the DOT to ensure that any foreign air operators' applications follow the terms of the U.S.-EU Open Skies Agreement and U.S. law,” the lawmakers continued.

“That amendment was driven by the belief that NAI's flag-of-convenience business model does not comply with U.S. and international law, and would be detrimental to the future of the U.S. aviation industry, aviation workers and our national economy.”


(Keith Laing- The Hill)

 

[Paolo_61]

Della serie tutti liberisti a casa altrui

 

[AZ209]

Alla faccia del (presunto) libero mercato.

 

[Mobius]

Anche per questo motivo amo gli USA. Concorrenza sì, ma solo se tutti rispettano le regole.

GT-I9300 - Tapatalk

 

[londonfog]

Anche per questo motivo amo gli USA. Concorrenza sì, ma solo se tutti rispettano le regole.

GT-I9300 - Tapatalk

Le regole o gli interessi di una lobby (in questo caso le linee aeree USA)?

 

[GOAviator]

Le regole o gli interessi di una lobby (in questo caso le linee aeree USA)?

mi sa la seconda...

 

[Cesare.Caldi]

Ma poi ci rendiamo conto di cosa stiamo parlando? Le tre big americane hanno nel complesso migliaia di aerei di cui diverse centinaia di WB e dominano con le europee il mercato transatlantico.

Norwegian ha 8 dicasi 8 WB in tutto e avrà una quota di mercato dello zero virgola qualcosa, eppure fanno di tutto per bloccarla, non credo proprio che a causa di questa concorrenza le compagnie americane andranno in malora...