Nuova business Lufthansa da fine 2011


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Lufthansa plans new business class for 2011

06 Oct 2010 at 16:08 — by Alex McWhirter in Air Travel | NEWS ITEM

Lufthansa hopes to satisfy critics of its existing long-haul business class when it unveils a new fully-flat product late next year.

That welcome development, along with plans to change the short-haul seating in the economy cabin were revealed to ABTN during an interview with Marianne Sammann, the GM for Lufthansa and Austrian Airlines in the UK and Ireland.

Although details are still under wraps it is expected Germany's national airline will finally bite the bullet and adopt fully flat bed seating on its long-haul business class flights rather than the angled lie-flat version currently in service.

Initially the plan calls for Lufthansa to install the new seating on the 20-strong fleet of B747-800s (an updated version of the venerable jumbo jet) when they enter service towards the end of 2011.

Some have criticised Lufthansa's decision not to install the latest business class in its fleet of A380s which are currently being delivered.

This contrasted with rival A380 operators such as Emirates, Qantas and SIA. They all took the opportunity to install their latest premium products on the super jumbo from day one.

Why did Lufthansa not do likewise? "It is because the A380 was delayed [from Airbus]." Says Sammann. "Perhaps with hindsight we would have considered an alternative, but at the time of ordering the A380 our existing seat was the right product.

"Our existing seat is not at the very top of the market compared with certain [business class] seats offered by some carriers. But our passengers continue to rate it [the existing seating] highly. Ultimately our A380 passengers will not lose out because when we launch a new generation of seat we always retrofit and install it across the fleet."

Sammann acknowledged however that, "this could take a few years," owing to the size of Lufthansa's fleet.

Lufthansa is also expected to unveil details of a new short-haul economy class product later this year. Lufthansa wants to improve the economics of its European flights and it intends to do so by adding more seats and simplifying the catering.

The idea is that passengers should not notice because the seats will be of a new ergonomic design allowing virtually unchanged legroom. As at present, on-board food and drink is expected to remain free of charge.

The carrier reports "a fantastic year" for its UK business with a good growth in passenger numbers and, crucially, average ticket price.

"We are now seeing a return of business class passengers on short routes," said Sammann. "Companies are allowing more business class travel because they see the value. Certain business trips do require the product as [the better conditions on the ground and in the air] make it a good investment."

However, while several companies' policies have changed to allow business class travel, making the move between economy and business remains a "more scrutinized decision", said Samman.

As is the case with other mainland European carriers, a good number of Lufthansa passengers departing UK airports use the carrier's hubs to reach the outside world. "The number of transfer passengers varies from airport to airport," says Sammann. "Some 36 per cent of our passengers out of Heathrow will change planes in Germany whereas from Manchester the figure is 63 per cent."

Canny travellers have wised up to new transfer possibilities available from Lufthansa Italia (the carrier's Italian subsidiary). When flights between London Heathrow and Milan Malpensa first started in March last year they were geared to passengers flying solely between these two cities.

But as the Lufthansa Italia network has grown (it now serves 13 destinations out of Milan), passengers departing Heathrow can now change at Malpensa for onward points.

While not all the connections are handy the Milan routing works well for destinations in the South such as Palermo (Sicily), Olbia (Sardinia) and Bari. That is because these places are not well served from the UK by traditional airlines.

And while airlines are highly critical of the German government's introduction of a "eco" tax on departing flights next January, the airline must be thankful that this new tax will not be levied on transit passengers (provided the plane change is under 12 hours).

"We strongly oppose this tax," she complains, "I do not see the ‘eco' in it. It will simply make travel more expensive and discourage hub operations in Germany."

Finally there is good news for Bmi customers. As the airline integrates into the Lufthansa family it means more benefits for passengers in the form of being able to accrue Hon Circle miles [a top Lufthansa tier in its Miles and More FFP] when flying Bmi. The carrier is also now included in Star Alliance's Miles and More Company Plus scheme for SMEs.




Era ora che cambiassero l'attuale cesso più cesso di un cesso. Vedremo cosa offriranno.
 
I crucchi sono veramente crucchi, ci mettono una vita prima di capire come va il mondo.
Comunque meglio così, sarebbe vomitevole vedere finalmente dei voli intercontinentali Lufthansa da Malpensa con una business obsoleta e inutile.

Chi mai sceglierebbe la J di Lufthansa al posto di quella del 330 Alitalia su MXP-JFK?


Canny travellers have wised up to new transfer possibilities available from Lufthansa Italia (the carrier's Italian subsidiary). When flights between London Heathrow and Milan Malpensa first started in March last year they were geared to passengers flying solely between these two cities.

But as the Lufthansa Italia network has grown (it now serves 13 destinations out of Milan), passengers departing Heathrow can now change at Malpensa for onward points.
Deo gratias.
 
fra gli ultimi delle major a metter i PTV in Y fra gli ultimi a mettere una J "dritta".
non è che aspettino che il prodotto si dimostri valido e affidabile prima di installarlo anche loro?
mai fare kose ze non zicuri di kvalità, ya:D
 
Initially the plan calls for Lufthansa to install the new seating on the 20-strong fleet of B747-800s (an updated version of the venerable jumbo jet) when they enter service towards the end of 2011.
Con gli ultimi ritardi non mi stupirei di vedere le consegne slittare ancora nel tempo.

Ultimately our A380 passengers will not lose out because when we launch a new generation of seat we always retrofit and install it across the fleet. Sammann acknowledged however that "this could take a few years"
Few years??? E dei sedili nuovi su A380 che se ne fanno? Non ci credo che li buttano dopo "few years"...
 
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Few years??? E dei sedili nuovi su A380 che se ne fanno? Non ci credo che li buttano dopo "few yars"...
Tieni presente che per retrofittare tutta la flotta di 330/340 con la nuova F (8 poltrone ad aereo), sembra che LH impiegherà 5 anni.
 
Dai dati che ho sottomano (aggiornati ad agosto) a Lufthansa sono stati consegnati 3 A380 su 15. Non modificare gli altri 12 A380 in consegna mettendo le nuove poltrone mi sembra una mossa quantomeno strana, anche se da quel che capisco dall'articolo sarà proprio così (non è specificato).

Mah...
 
Con gli ultimi ritardi non mi stupirei di vedere le consegne slittare ancora nel tempo.
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Per i primi 748i si parla già di 2012.

E proprio il ritardo dei 380 è stata la causa della scelta della vecchia configurazione: era stata scelta in linea con lo schdule originale e cambiarla successivamente avrebbe potuto introdurre ulteriori ritardi.
 
Lufthansa conferma la nuova business per i 747-8

Lufthansa conferma la nuova business sui 747-8

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http://www.ausbt.com.au/lufthansa-confirms-new-business-class-for-boeing-747-8-in-2012

Una schifezza peggio di quella di adesso