Norwegian sul lungo raggio dall'estate 2013 (787 da fine agosto)


Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

Ah ok , tnx
 
Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

ma con che aerei opererà ?

Stanno valutando di noleggiare dei 340 o 767 finchè non si risolverà il problema sui 787 che è un aereo per ora totalmente virtuale.

Segnalo che con una mossa pubblicitaria senza precedenti Norwegian avendo compreso che molti suoi pax avevano prenotato proprio per volare sui nuovi 787 e adesso si sarebbero sentiti traditi da un rimpiazzo con un altro tipo di aereo, la compagnia aerea pur non avendo nessun obbligo e potendo normalmente cambiare il tipo di aereo per ragioni operative ha deciso che concederà il rimborso a chi aveva prenotato e non vuole piu' volare, in alternativa concederà un cambio data gratuito da utilizzare quando finalmente i 787 saranno operativi.

Sul sito facebook della compagnia di è scatenato un coro di applausi e ringraziamenti a Norwegian per questa scelta.
Questo è un grande esempio e caso di scuola di come si può rigirare a proprio favore un evento negativo, ritardo indefinito dei 787 aereo su cui hai puntato tutto per avviare le attività LR e invece trasformare la possibile delusione e rabbia dei pax in un riscontro positivo. Complimenti a Norwegian.
 
Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

Però se guardiamo all' esempio di SAS ha scelto direi giustamente di concentrare il lungo raggio tutto in un unico scalo CPH

Quello che affermi non è vero.

SK vola da ARN verso EWR e ORD.
E da OSL verso EWR.
 
Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

SK vola da ARN verso EWR e ORD.
E da OSL verso EWR.

E' vero ma sono 3 rotte in tutto, tutte le altre rotte LR sono basate a CPH. Norwegian al contrario ha poche rotte poche frequenze e tutte sparpagliate in tre aeroporti, effetto massa critica ed economie di scala zero.
 
Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

E' vero ma sono 3 rotte in tutto, tutte le altre rotte LR sono basate a CPH. Norwegian al contrario ha poche rotte poche frequenze e tutte sparpagliate in tre aeroporti, effetto massa critica ed economie di scala zero.

TUIFly Nordic vola sul lungo raggio da ARN, GOT, CPH, BLL, OSL, HEL
Thomas Cook Scandinavia da CPH, BLL, ARN, GOT, OSL e HEL.
Novair da ARN, CPH.

Torno a ripetere, vedi problemi dove non ce ne stanno!
 
Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

TUIFly Nordic vola sul lungo raggio da ARN, GOT, CPH, BLL, OSL, HEL
Thomas Cook Scandinavia da CPH, BLL, ARN, GOT, OSL e HEL.
Novair da ARN, CPH.

Torno a ripetere, vedi problemi dove non ce ne stanno!

Quelle che hai elencato sono compagnie charter, che è piu' che normale che offrano i loro voli da ciascun aeroporto sotto casa. Norwegian invece saranno voli LR di linea quindi è tutta un altra cosa. Poi non voglio vedere nessun problema se i voli andranno bene così meglio per loro, solo è davvero singolare questa scelta per chi opera con voli di linea e con cosi poche rotte e pochi aerei di sparpagliarli in diversi aeroporti. Mi citi un altra compagnia che abbia fatto una scelta simile?
 
Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

Quelle che hai elencato sono compagnie charter, che è piu' che normale che offrano i loro voli da ciascun aeroporto sotto casa. Norwegian invece saranno voli LR di linea quindi è tutta un altra cosa. Poi non voglio vedere nessun problema se i voli andranno bene così meglio per loro, solo è davvero singolare questa scelta per chi opera con voli di linea e con cosi poche rotte e pochi aerei di sparpagliarli in diversi aeroporti. Mi citi un altra compagnia che abbia fatto una scelta simile?

CHE PALLE
 
Cesare,Norwegian é una low-cost,non programma voli di lungo raggio sostenuti da un sistema hub&spoke.Vanno dove pensano troveranno buoni riempimenti con voli ptp, se poi ci sarà qualche transito non piangeranno, ma non mettono in piedi un hub per qualche per questi voli.
 
Re: Norwegian mette in vendita il lungo raggio : Bangkok e New York da Giugno 2013

Quelle che hai elencato sono compagnie charter, che è piu' che normale che offrano i loro voli da ciascun aeroporto sotto casa. Norwegian invece saranno voli LR di linea quindi è tutta un altra cosa. Poi non voglio vedere nessun problema se i voli andranno bene così meglio per loro, solo è davvero singolare questa scelta per chi opera con voli di linea e con cosi poche rotte e pochi aerei di sparpagliarli in diversi aeroporti. Mi citi un altra compagnia che abbia fatto una scelta simile?

Air Berlin.
 
Intervista di oggi sulla BBC a Bjorn Kjos CEO di Norwegian:

Norwegian airline prepares for global expansion


By Jorn MadslienBusiness reporter, BBC News

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Though he is a former fighter pilot, it was his qualification as a lawyer that resulted in Mr Kjos taking charge of an airline

The effortless elegance of London's May Fair Hotel is disrupted as a bulldog of a man crouches under the table to wipe the floor.
"Had a bit of an accident," he says with a big grin as he tosses soggy kitchen towels into a nearby paper bin. "Cup of coffee hit the floor."
And then, his right arm outstretched: "Hello, I'm Bjorn."
Bjorn Kjos' informal manners and his unusual preparedness to get his hands dirty belie both his achievements and his goals.
As co-founder, majority owner and chief executive of Norwegian Air Shuttle, Mr Kjos' business is already snapping at the heels of low-cost airlines Easyjet and Ryanair, opening new bases at European airports at a rate of knots.
"And this," Mr Kjos insists, as he points at a world map on his laptop that is criss-crossed with flight routes, "is just the start."

Accidental adventure

Norwegian was created in 1993, rising from the ashes of bankrupt airline Busy Bee, and although Mr Kjos was one of its founders, it was not his idea.

Instead, it all started with a phone call from old friends from his time in the Royal Norwegian Air Force, where he was a fighter pilot for eight years before he left to pursue a career in law.
"They needed a lawyer who wouldn't charge too much, or perhaps nothing at all," Mr Kjos recalls. "So they told me, 'You earn too much and work too little.'"
Over the next decade, Norwegian remained a small service provider to regional airline Braathens, until 2002 when a takeover by flagship carrier Scandinavian Airlines resulted in its contract being cancelled.
Norwegian almost collapsed, so Mr Kjos stepped in as chief executive and injected much-needed cash into the troubled business, becoming the majority shareholder in the process.
"I was only supposed to stay for three months," he says.

Growing Fleet

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Modern, fuel-efficient aircraft are essential tools in the battle to cut costs, Mr Kjos believes

Instead, Mr Kjos stayed on at the helm, as Norwegian rose from a position as an also-ran in the world of aviation to become:

  • the second largest airline in Scandinavia
  • the third largest low-cost airline in Europe
  • the 10th largest airline in Europe and
  • the 10th largest low-cost carrier in the world.
The airline currently has 74 aircraft flying from several operational bases in Scandinavia, Spain and the UK to 120 destinations in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.
Last year, it had almost 18 million customers, a number set to soar as its fleet almost trebles over the next few years, on the back of what Mr Kjos describes as "the largest aircraft order in European aviation history" for222 new Airbus and Boeing aircraft valued at some $22bn, signed in January last year.
Given the turbulence that has long been buffeting the world economy, such a bet might seem foolhardy, especially as it is almost impossible to predict the pace of an airline's growth in an increasingly competitive market place.
But Mr Kjos insists it would be riskier not to order new aircraft than to do so, since soaring fuel prices have rendered airlines with old fleets hopelessly uncompetitive.
"Just look at who's been making money in recent years," he says. "It's the low-cost carriers, and they own their fleets. The legacy carriers have suffered huge losses."
Large aircraft orders in a market dominated by just two manufacturers serve the additional purpose of limiting the supply to competitors, Mr Kjos reasons.
"If you place an order now, you'll have to wait until 2020 before you can get a new aircraft," he says. "So it's better to order too many. If I find I've got too many, I'll just lease some of them to other airlines."

Futile strategy

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Asian rivals such as Scoot will dominate the low-cost long-haul market, Mr Kjos predicts

But it is not the predicaments of troubled legacy carriers, nor the rivalry with Easyjet and Ryanair, that keeps Mr Kjos engaged.
Rather, it is the emergence of Asian airlines such as Air Asia and Scoot, or Jetstar and Cebu Pacific.
"The Asian airlines operate with costs that are half that of Emirates and a third of Lufthansa's," he says.
Currently, there are competition restrictions in place that prevent them from competing head-on with incumbent carriers in Europe and North America, and "airlines that aren't competitive will lobby to prevent them from coming", Mr Kjos says.
But that, he insists, would be futile.
Currently, nine out of 10 passengers on flights between Europe and Asia are European, but in a decade or two, that picture will have been reversed, Mr Kjos predicts.
"The wave will come from Asia, where the new competitors are, not the other way around as it is today," he says, predicting that this will soon result in a global Open Skies agreement that will in effect remove any measures that currently keep the Asian rivals out.
"The influx from Asia offers enormous potential in terms of mass tourism and thousands of jobs. The flow will be so large, you simply cannot afford to stop it, so politicians won't say no to global Open Skies merely to save a few airline jobs."

Do like the Asians

To make sure Norwegian stays in the game, Mr Kjos has decided to compete in the low-cost long-haul market, initially with direct flights from Scandinavia to New York and Bangkok, then over time through a yet-to-be-established Asian subsidiary.

"We're saying it's way too expensive to fly long-haul today, and we're doing something about it," he says.
"Asian low-cost carriers will dominate the fast-growing low-cost long-haul sector, so if you're going to compete in the future, you have to do like the Asians. You have to be there," he continues, pointing to the importance of cost-cutting.
Mr Kjos' vision - accompanied by statements such as "in Asia, people in aviation have a tenth of the salary in Scandinavia" - has created tension with both pilots, cabin crews and even the government at home, where he has been accused of social dumping, but he insists he has no choice.
"There has to be a reshaping of Western airlines, otherwise we will be outcompeted by the Asians," he says, dismissing his critics.
"They can't see what's coming. They don't want to see it."

qui l'articolo: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21923866
 
Ma i 787 dubito che verranno consegnati in tempo, hanno altre macchine per iniziare le operazioni o posticipano?
 
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Dal 29 Novembre Norwegian aggiungera' una quarta frequenza sulla la Oslo-New York JFK.

Norwegian Adds 4th weekly Oslo – New York Service from late-Nov 2013

by JL
Update at 0420GMT 03JUN13

Norwegian from 29NOV13 is adding 4th weekly service on Oslo – New York JFK route, on board Boeing 787-8 aircraft. Reservation for the new service (Fridays) opened on 31MAY13.
DY7001 OSL1800 – 2000JFK 788 x136
DY7002 JFK2130 – 1050+1OSL 788 x136