KSA, UAE, Egitto e Bahrain chiudono le frontiere con il Qatar


Se dovessero chiudere lo spazio aereo, che rotte dovrebbe fare Qatar per i voli per Europa/America?
 
Se dovessero chiudere lo spazio aereo, che rotte dovrebbe fare Qatar per i voli per Europa/America?

Quella che fanno già sorvolando Iran e Turchia.

Scusa, mi correggo, ho visto adesso che è stato riaperto un corridoio aereo che attraversa il sud della Siria e l'Arabia Saudita. Per cui dovranno modificare le rotte tornando a fare quella nord che passa dall'Iran. I disagi maggiori probabilmente riguardano i voli per l'Egitto e il Nord Africa in generale.
 
Scusa, mi correggo, ho visto adesso che è stato riaperto un corridoio aereo che attraversa il sud della Siria e l'Arabia Saudita. Per cui dovranno modificare le rotte tornando a fare quella nord che passa dall'Iran. I disagi maggiori probabilmente riguardano i voli per l'Egitto e il Nord Africa in generale.

L'Africa in generale e' messa male, se dal Qatar non puoi tagliare in nessun modo la Penisola arabica ma devi girarci attorno. Peraltro alcune delle rotte africane (DAR, NBO, EBB ma forse altre ancora) sono operate con 320, e non sono sicuro che abbiano l'autonomia per la nuova rotta che evita UAE, KSA e Yemen. Domani vedremo...
 
Si sono aggiunte le Maldive, per quanto piccole e poco importanti più che altro l'effetto contagio sarà da verificare.
 
Si sono aggiunte le Maldive, per quanto piccole e poco importanti più che altro l'effetto contagio sarà da verificare.

Ma a parte i prolungamenti, chi ha prenotato voli con Qatar al momento ha di che preoccuparsi per l'incertezza con cui i voli potrebbero essere genericamente riprogrammati. Ad esempio, chi ha prenotato per Maldive, deve trovarsi una soluzione alternativa, ma anche chi vola verso l'Africa in genere potrebbe avere qualche difficoltà. Senza contare che non pochi avranno voli prenotati per Dubai, Muscat, Jedda, Ryad, Bahrain via Doha e quindi tutto cancellato!
 
In effetti basta guardare flightradar24 e si vede bene che gran parte della flotta sta volando sull'Arabia saudita
 
Qatar Airways to Be Biggest Victim in Gulf Diplomatic Breakdown
by Deena Kamel
5 giugno 2017, 17:31 CEST
From Subscribe Reprints
Carrier faces loss of feeder flights from Arab neighbors
Airspace closures could make African flights impossible

Qatar’s state airline is set to become the biggest loser from the diplomatic breakdown in the Persian Gulf—with competitors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi also set to suffer.

Some 76 daily flights are likely to be grounded, of which 52 are operated by Qatar Airways, after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates suspended ties with Qatar, according to data from scheduling firm OAG. Some 30 percent of the carrier’s revenue could be affected, aviation analysts at Frost & Sullivan estimate.

Among Qatar Airways operations set to be shut is a shuttle to Dubai that operates 14 times a day. Plans to bar Qatari jets from entering airspace over the countries that could be even more problematic, inflating expenses by forcing significant diversions and putting the viability of some routes in jeopardy.

“Diverting around closed airspace means higher fuel costs and longer flight times,” said Mark Martin, head of Dubai-based Martin Consulting. “Destinations in Africa and across the Indian Ocean may no longer be sustainable as part of the Qatar Airways network.”

Earnings at Qatar Air, like other Gulf carriers, are already being squeezed as the low price of crude weighs on economic growth in the region and hurts demand for travel among oil-industry executives. An American ban on people using laptops aboard U.S.-bound flights amid concern about potential terrorist attacks is also taking a toll on business-class demand.

Etihad, Egyptair

The Saudi bar on flights was to be introduced immediately Monday, with the airspace ban taking effect on Tuesday. Egypt and Bahrain have also stated that overflying their territory will be denied to Qatari carriers, though the U.A.E. has indicated that its airspace will remain open. Qatar Air declined to comment, beyond saying that it has suspended Saudi services.

QuickTake Q&A: Why Tiny Qatar Angers Saudi Arabia and Its Allies
Emirates and fellow long-haul specialist Etihad Airways PJSC of Abu Dhabi are set to cease operations to Doha on June 6, along with discounters FlyDubai and Air Arabia of Sharjah. Saudi Arabian Airlines, Egyptair and Bahrain-based Gulf Air will also halt services.

Foreign airlines may also have to seek permission for overflights to Qatar, according to a statement from the state-run Saudi Press Agency.

More than 10 percent of all airline seats in and out of Qatar are assigned to flights involving the four nations imposing the travel ban, said Diogenis Papiomytis, director of aerospace at Frost & Sullivan, with most passengers who use those links transferring on or off the long-haul services from which Qatar Air derives the bulk of its earnings.

Idling Planes

On routes between Qatar and the U.A.E. eight out of every 10 passengers have an origin or final destination beyond the two countries, according to the analyst, who said the measures represent a “major headache” for route planners at all carriers concerned.

His estimate that Qatar Air could see a 30 percent revenue hit includes the loss of direct traffic, the operational cost of diverting flights, the idling of planes, a disproportionate decline in premium bookings given the relative wealth of the countries imposing the ban, and a possible slump in leisure demand.

Even at Etihad and Emirates—which last year began deploying an Airbus SE A380 superjumbo for some Doha services—as much as 15 percent of sales could be impacted by the measures, Papiomytis said. Qatar Air code-share partners including IAG SA’s British Airways and American Airlines could also see an impact from the measures, Papiomytis said.

“The network impact is huge; the financial impact depends on the length of closures,” he said.


https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...-angers-saudi-arabia-and-its-allies-quicktake
 
Se per assurdo Iran vietasse il sorvolo del proprio territorio alle compagnie dei paesi che hanno isolato Qatar, allora si che EK ed EY avrebbero un bel problema!


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
 
Doha flight updates as of 0000GMT 06JUN17

By Jim Liu
Posted 6 June 2017 00:20

Due to recent diplomatic tensions in the Middle East, selected Middle Eastern and North African carriers gradually announced cancellation for flights to/from Doha, effective from 06JUN17. OneWorld member Qatar Airways also announced planned service cancellation as a result.

As of 0000GMT 06JUN17, updated information as follow. Flight frequency is based on data as of week of 04JUN17’s OAG Schedules Analyser, for July –Oct 2017 schedule. Situation remains fluid therefore additional adjustment is expected.

* Air Arabia
All Sharjah – Doha flights cancelled until further notice. G9 operates up to 3 daily flights to Doha

* Air Cairo
All Doha flights cancelled until further notice. SM opeates 1 weekly from Sharm el Sheikh, up to 4 weekly from Borg el Arab/Alexandria, 1 weekly from Sohag

* Egypt Air
All Cairo – Doha flights cancelled until further notice. MS operates up to 16 weekly flights to Doha

* Emirates
All Dubai – Doha flights cancelled until further notice. EK operates up to 7 daily flights to Doha

* Etihad Airways
All Abu Dhabi – Doha flights cancelled at least until 30JUN17. EY operates up to 5 daily flights to Doha

* Flydubai
All Dubai – Doha flights cancelled until further notice. FZ operates 1 daily from Dubai al Maktoum (DWC) and up to 7 daily from Dubai International (DXB)

* Gulf Air
All Bahrain – Doha flights cancelled at least until 30JUN17. GF operates 5-6 daily flights to Doha

* Qatar Airways
All flights to UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Egypt cancelled until further notice. At time this post goes to press, QR service to these countries remain available for bookings on/after 09JUN17, including:

Doha – Abha 2 daily
Doha – Abu Dhabi 6 daily
Doha – Bahrain 7 daily
Doha – Borg el Arab/Alexandria 10 weekly
Doha – Cairo 17 weekly
Doha – Dammam 5 daily
Doha – Dubai al Maktoum (DWC) 4 daily
Doha – Dubai International (DXB) 17 daily
Doha – Gassim 2 daily
Doha – Hofuf 5 weekly
Doha – Jeddah 4 daily
Doha – Luxor 7 weekly
Doha – Madinah 3 daily
Doha – Ras al Khaimah 4 weekly
Doha – Riyadh 24 weekly
Doha – Sharjah 2 daily
Doha – Taif 1 daily
Doha – Yanbu 4 weekly

* Saudia
All flights to Doha cancelled at least until 15AUG17. SV operates up to 10 weekly from Jeddah, 1 daily from Riyadh

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/273169/doha-flight-updates-as-of-0000gmt-06jun17/
 
Da notare che QR dovrà cancellare la bellezza di circa 120 voli giornalieri.
 
Follia. Se si parla di aerei con marche del Qatar stai a vedere che fanno a cambio con Meridiana. Sarebbe la volta buona che Meridiana venisse assorbita da Qatar. Ma è solo follia.
Buona giornata.
Cosciente che Meridiana non riuscirebbe a coprire le esigenze di Qatar.
 
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Qatar Airways maintains flight ops but with major deviations
Qatar Airways Airbus A340-600© Qatar Airways

3 minutes ago

Qatar Airways (QR, Doha Hamad Int'l) has attempted to maintain regular flight operations despite the closure of the Bahrain, Jeddah (Saudi Arabia), and Emirates (UAE) Flight Information Regions (FIR) to its traffic.

Yesterday, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Egypt severed all diplomatic ties with Qatar citing its support for "terrorist organizations". An air embargo has also been imposed on any Qatar Airways/Qatari-registered aircraft attempting to transit any of the four Arab nations' airspaces.

ch-aviation analysis of Flightradar24 ADS-B data indicates that despite the embargo, Qatar Airways has resorted to an El Al Israel Airlines-esque means of carrying out its service obligations i.e. employing significant route deviations in order to avoid unfriendly airspace. It is recalled that Qatar does not have its own FIR. The airspace around the peninsula state is controlled by Doha Radar up to around FL 250 (i.e. 25,000 feet ASL). From there upwards, air traffic control rests with Bahrain. As such, inbound and outbound traffic to Doha are keeping to below the threshold of 25,000 feet upon entering/exiting Iranian airspace.

As it stands, outbound traffic from Doha Hamad Int'l is, for the most part, heading North North East to the RAGAS waypoint before entering the Tehran FIR. From there, Qatar Airways traffic heads west to North Africa, Europe, and North America transiting Iranian and eventually Turkish airspace. All outbound traffic heading to the rest of Africa, Asia, and Oceania is routed east and, again, uses the Tehran FIR. At Gheshm, flights to Africa, Southeast Asia, and Oceania turn south heading into Omani airspace and around the Arabian peninsula before traveling onwards to their respective destinations.

Traffic inbound to Doha Hamad Int'l follows a similar pattern with flights arriving from Africa, Southeast Asia, and Oceania entering the Gulf via the Oman FIR before eventually reaching Qatar via the Tehran FIR. Flights from Europe, North America, and North Africa return via Turkey and Iran before heading into Doha via the MIDSI waypoint for the most part.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/56559-qatar-airways-maintains-flight-ops-but-with-major-deviations