Emirates : flotta con soli 2 tipi di aeromobile?


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Emirates Airline's decision to cancel orders for 70 Airbus A350s has opened up the possibility that its future fleet could only have two types – the Boeing 777 and A380.While the airline president Tim Clark has expressed frustration at the changes to the design of the 20 A350-1000s it had on order, the cancellation of its order for 50 -900s effectively leaves it without a replacement for aircraft in the 230-260 seat category. These include a number of A330s, A340s and777-200/200ERs, which are the oldest aircraft in its fleet - with the exception of the A340-500s, which are being phased out due to their poor economics.
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Those smaller widebodies mostly operate on services to Africa, the Middle East and Indian subcontinent, but are increasingly overlapping with the larger 777-300ERs. FlightMaps Analytics shows that the large Boeing operates 49% of the airline's frequencies on a range of routes: from longhauls down to Australia and the US, to even the 45 minute flight between Dubai and Doha.
Emirates 777-300ER routes
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Emirates A330/A340/777-200/777-200ER routes
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The larger 777s are also being supplemented by the A380s, especially on longer routes. Flightglobal understands that across Emirates’ network the A380 and 777-300ER offer broadly similar seat-mile costs, however the latter carries considerably more cargo on some routes.
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This allows the airline to tailor its schedule so that those frequencies with a high passenger load are operated by the A380, while off-peak passenger times can allow it to carry more cargo with the 777s. Similarly, it allows for efficient upgauging at slot-constrained airports, such as London Heathrow, and even at its home base at Dubai International airport.With the A350s off the table – at least for now – the only type that is expected to be added over the next decade is the 777-9X. Clark says that the airline is close to firming a commitment placed at theDubai air show for 150 firm aircraft and 50 options, and an announcement could be forthcoming at theFarnborough air show.The 777-9Xs are the natural replacement the 777-300ERs, albeit over some time given the scale of the -300ER fleet. As well as a slightly larger capacity, the efficiency benefits offered by the -9X will fit well with Emirates’ focus on delivering low seat-mile costs.It is for that reason that Clark has been pressing Airbus to look at re-engining the A380 later in the decade. Once the 777-9X’s enter service, their per-seat costs are expected to beat the A380’s, which changes the cost dynamics for Emirates. Re-engining the megaliner would allow it to maintain the status quo.All of that appears to show that Emirates may be looking only to the 777X and A380 for its future fleet. Given that the A350 cancellation came in response to a reassessment of its future fleet needs, there may be an indication that it does not see itself operating aircraft with less than 350 seats in the near future.As FlightMaps shows, the smaller widebodies already only have a few routes of their own. As it has done elsewhere, Emirates could move to upgrade those to 777-300ERs and later 777-9Xs or A380s as the market grows. Although adding those larger aircraft to such routes would drive down yields in the short-term, the airline has shown that it is happy to wear that – often to the detriment of its competitors. It could also look to consolidate frequencies on some routes, or indeed drop them altogether.Down the track, though, Emirates could re-look at its options to replace the A330s, A340s and early 777s if it decides that smaller aircraft are required. That could see the 787 – particularly the 787-10 – come into the frame, with the benefit of cockpit commonality with the 777s. Airbus would be expected to also put forward compelling offers for the A350, and maybe even the A330neo if it is launched.The other option could be for Emirates to deepen its relationship with low-cost carrier FlyDubai. The smaller carrier is not part of the Emirates group, and there are few overlaps between them. However they now offer interline connections on certain routes, as does Emirates' alliance partner Qantas.FlyDubai is solely a 737 operator, and has also signed on for the Max in both the -8 and -9 variants, giving it much less capacity than its larger stablemate. However, it is possible that the fleet could be expanded to include smaller widebodies, something that would probably be essential if it were to play a larger feeder role to Emirates.Given the scale of Emirates’ 777/A380 network now, it seems a logical development that the airline will focus solely on those types going forward.
 
Emirates (EK, Dubai Int'l) says it has concluded B777-200 operations with the retirement of A6-EMF (msn 27249). The 19 year-old aircraft departed Dubai Int'l for Marana, Arizona via Boston for de-registration and storage on July 14.


The withdrawal is part of Emirates's fleet renewal plan aimed at ensuring it operates one of the world’s most modern and efficient fleet of aircraft, with an average age of less than 75 months.


“In order to keep our fleet modern, efficient and appealing to our customers, we phase out some of our older aircraft on a regular basis," Philip Audsley, Manager, Aircraft Assets, said. "So far, in 2014 and 2015 we have phased out three B777-200s and eight A340-500s on schedule, which is no mean feat in itself. For the year 2015/2016, we’re planning a total of ten phase-outs."


While the -200s have been retired, the Emirati carrier has retained six B777-200(ER)s and ten B777-200(LR)s.
 
Scusatemi nelle cartine MXP non c'è nei 380 ( a meno che non sia sottintesa in JFK ) e VCE non c'è del tutto ( io pensavo operata dal 300 ma non c'è neanche nel 200): forse ci sono altri tipi di aereo ?
 
Interessante intervista di Tim Clark. In sintesi:

-l'anno prossimo sceglieranno il piccolo di famiglia tra A350-900 e 787-10. Non ci sarà un mix tra i due.
-al Dubai air show, non sono previsti nuovi ordini di 380 perchè a DXB non ci sarebbe ulteriore spazio.
-improbabile il lancio al DAS del 380neo (del quale viene comunque auspicato lo sviluppo), che Tim vorrebbe comunque non più grande della versione attuale (ergo niente 380-900).
-il trasloco a DWC viene stimato oltre il 2025.

My two cents: In EK hanno fatto due conti e hanno capito che il 787-10 è un po' più efficiente del 359 e che la maggiore autonomia di quest'ultimo non è un fattore determinante: escludendo America e Oceania, le destinazioni più lontane da DXB non vanno comunque oltre gli 8.000 km. Mi sembra anche di notare meno entusiasmo che in passato verso il 380.
Infine ho l'impressione che DXB diventerà il LIN del Golfo, dal quale chi può si guarderà bene dallo spostarsi nel remoto DWC.

Emirates to choose between A350-900 and 787-10 next year


  • 01 OCTOBER, 2015
  • BY: MURDO MORRISON
  • LONDON


  • Emirates will not choose between the Airbus A350-900 or the Boeing 787-10 until next year, chief executive Tim Clark has confirmed – quashing speculation that the Dubai air show might bring a high-profile order for one of the midsize widebodies from the local flag carrier.
Clark has also ruled out a commitment at the show for more Airbus A380s – although he is still urging Toulouse to launch a revamped "A380neo" variant of the superjumbo.
Emirates has "all the data we need to make an assessment" of the baseline A350 and the stretched Dreamliner, although a decision is "not imminent", Clark told Flightglobal today.
"It will be in 2016 – but when, I don't know – and it will be one or the other," he adds.
Emirates cancelled its original order for 70 A350-900/1000s last year, but Clark says he is happy with revised performance numbers from Airbus, now that the -900 has entered service. "We are now getting meaningful figures," he says. "The originals were just estimates."
Clark had also expressed concerns over the 787-10's hot-weather performance in the Gulf summer. He says "there are still issues with the -10", but he maintains that Emirates has been "testing it on paper" and is satisfied it could fulfil a role.
"We wouldn't put it on New York or Sydney, but as a workhorse up to 8.5h without a kink in the payload, it looks like a good aeroplane," he says.
Clark says he does not think Airbus will launch an A380neo at the air show and suggests Emirates would not be able to incorporate any more of the ultra-large aircraft at its close-to-capacity Dubai International (DXB) base for now anyway.
However, he remains keen on a new version of the superjumbo. "If [Airbus] do develop it, it would be of interest to everybody, and I'd like to see them sell more A380s," he says. He adds that an A380neo would not have to be a bigger aircraft, but that a new engine and aerodynamic tweaks could make the existing A380 up to 13% more economical.
Despite congestion at DXB, Clark says the new Dubai World Central, or Al Maktoum International, will not be ready for Emirates to relocate its passenger operations until the second half of the 2020s.
The new airport, in the Jebel Ali district south of Dubai, is earmarked to become the world's biggest hub but currently consists of one runway and a modest terminal building, and is used mainly as a cargo airport and by a handful of carriers.
"We are having to manage a very compressed airport here [DXB] and it's focusing a lot of our attention these days," says Clark. Although efficiencies are being introduced in terms of "brake to vacate" processes on runways, dual arrival procedures and air traffic control, he says Emirates is having to operate "very compressed banks" of flights. "Ultimately, there are only a certain number of parking spaces and it's becoming more difficult," he says.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...oose-between-a350-900-and-787-10-next-417326/
 
Stando al quotidiano francese "La tribune", l'380neo potrebbe vedere la luce nel caso Emirates voglia partecipare alle spese per il suo sviluppo.

A380 Neo : Airbus demande à Emirates de mettre la main à la poche

Pressé par la compagnie du Golfe pour lancer un A380 remotorisé, Airbus a fait trois requêtes à Emirates : quel pourrait être son apport pour financer le développement du programme, le nombre d'exemplaires sur lequel elle pourrait s'engager à commander, et un calendrier de livraisons. Les deux parties ont décidé de se donner du temps. Il n'y aura pas d'annonce du lancement de ce programme lors du prochain salon aéronautique de Dubai, mi-novembre.
Pressé depuis près de deux ans par Emirates pour lancer une version remotorisée de l'A380 (A380 Neo pour new engine option), Airbus a, selon nos informations, fait une proposition à la compagnie de Dubaï pour lancer le projet, dont le coût est estimé à près de trois milliards de dollars.

Airbus a fait trois requêtes à la compagnie du Golfe : quelle somme était-elle prête à mettre pour cofinancer le développement du programme ; combien d'exemplaires est-elle prête à commander et quel est le calendrier de mise en service des appareils.

Airbus propose de remotoriser l'A380 avec un dérivé des moteurs Rolls Royce Trent XWB installés aujourd'hui sur l'A350-900. Un point pertinent pour plusieurs spécialistes, même si ce moteur est légèrement trop puissant aujourd'hui. "Après, il faut voir si l'appareil est allongé et si sa masse est augmentée", explique l'un d'eux. Outre le développement de nouveaux moteurs, une remotorisation implique de modifier plusieurs points, notamment la voilure.

Interrogé Airbus n'a pas fait de commentaire. Emirates n'était pas en mesure d'en faire également.

Pas d'annonce au Dubai Airshow
Visiblement Emirates ne serait pas prête à financer un tel co-développement. Et l'avionneur et la compagnie du Golfe ont convenu de se donner du temps, selon un proche du dossier en Europe.

"Il n'y aura pas d'annonce au Dubai Airshow. La pression se relâche", explique un proche du dossier. De nombreux observateurs spéculaient en effet sur un lancement du programme A380 Neo au salon aéronautique du Dubaï mi-novembre. "Cela laisse du temps pour étudier non seulement une remotorisation mais aussi un allongement de l'A380", poursuit cette source.

Quel marché?
Tim Clark, le PDG d'Emirates a plusieurs fois déclaré que sa compagnie était prête à commander 200 exemplaires. Pilier du programme A380 depuis son lancement en 2000, Emirates a déjà commandé 140 superjumbos, dont 67 sont aujourd'hui en service.

Depuis le début de l'année, Airbus martèle qu'une amélioration de l'A380 interviendra "un jour" mais que ce n'était pas le moment. L'avionneur est extrêmement prudent à investir autant d'argent sans savoir s'il y a un réel marché. "C'est un très petit marché que nous dominons aujourd'hui", indiquait en début d'année John Leahy, le directeur commercial d'Airbus.

| Lire Airbus a-t-il eu raison trop tôt ?

L'expérience de l'A380 actuel ne rassure pas en effet. Le programme a été lancé en 2000 et seuls 317 exemplaires ont été vendus, dont 44% à un seul client, Emirates. Du coup, si l'A380 est entré en service fin 2007 seulement, la faiblesse de ses ventes pose déjà la question de son avenir.

Épuisement de la production d'ici à 5 ans ?
De nombreux experts estiment, qu'au regard du carnet de commandes actuel, il y a urgence à lancer l'A380 Neo si Airbus veut avoir le temps de le développer (4-5 ans au minimum) avant que la production du modèle actuel ne s'épuise.

Avec 146 appareils à livrer dont une bonne quinzaine est incertaine (4 de Transaero, 6 de Virgin, 2 d'Air France, 2 d'Air Austral), la production s'épuisera à l'horizon 2020. Sauf à engranger de nouvelles commandes comme l'espère la direction (elle assure qu'un contrat pourrait être annoncé d'ici à la fin de l'année) ou à baisser la cadence de production, laquelle est aujourd'hui de 2,2 avions par mois. En 2015, Airbus livrera entre 23 et 25 A380.

Une cadence 1 serait même envisagée d'ici à moins de deux ans si le niveau de commandes n'évoluait pas. "Ce qui est le minimum pour maintenir des compétences", explique un observateur. "Cela ferait augmenter les coûts de production et serait synonyme d'un arrêt du programme", estime un autre.

http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises...ates-de-mettre-la-main-a-la-poche-513886.html
 
-l'anno prossimo sceglieranno il piccolo di famiglia tra A350-900 e 787-10. Non ci sarà un mix tra i due.

My two cents: In EK hanno fatto due conti e hanno capito che il 787-10 è un po' più efficiente del 359 e che la maggiore autonomia di quest'ultimo non è un fattore determinante

Boeing oggi ha dichiarato che non fara' le modifiche al 787-10 richieste da EK.

Boeing says will not make changes to Dreamliner stretch for Emirates

Boeing (BA.N) will not make changes to the stretched version of its Dreamliner aircraft despite major client Emirates' [EMIRA.UL] request for better performance in hot climates, a company executive said on Wednesday.
"The plan is not to change the aircraft, we really like what we have," Randy Tinseth, vice president of marketing at Boeing Commercial Airplanes, told reporters in Dubai when asked about possible developments of the aircraft for Emirates.
Emirates, the largest Boeing 777 operator, said last month it would defer to next year a decision on whether to place an order for nearly 100 long-range planes with either Boeing for its 787-10 or with Airbus (AIR.PA) for A350-900s.
The two manufacturers were previously said to be working on their respective models to suit Emirates’ requirements.
The airline's president, Tim Clark, raised doubts about the 787-10's ability to carry heavy passenger and cargo loads for distances beyond eight hours due to the performance in hot climates - an issue for a Gulf-based airline.
However, he also said 85 percent of Emirates' flights did not exceed eight hours. This could mean better prospects for Airbus' A350, which has a flying range of about 14 hours.
Tinseth said the 787-10 will be the "most efficient airplane" that Boeing has ever built when it comes into service.The 787-10, launched at the 2013 Paris Airshow, has an order book of 146, according to the manufacturer's website. The first delivery is expected in 2018.
Meanwhile, the A350-900 has confirmed orders for 598 aircraft with six in operation.
reuters
 
Ma Emirates non aveva annullato i propri ordini per l'A350? Perchè questo passo indietro?