CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Svezia


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Flightradar24 su facebook:
"At this time, we are following multiple media reports that a West Air Sweden cargo flight has crashed in northern Sweden near the Norwegian border. The flight, PT294, was flying from Oslo to Tromso, operated by a CRJ-200, registration SE-DUX.
The image below displays our last know position of the flight. The accompanying link provides playback of the flight.
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/se-dux/#879c46c

L'aereo era un CRJ-200LR.
 
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Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

L'aereo fu consegnato a Lufthansa Cityline nel 93 poi successivamente passò di mano a questa compagnia.
A vedere le foto sembra i resti siano tutti concentrati intorno all'impatto. Mi sa che purtoppo è precipitato a grande velocità
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

A West Atlantic Sweden Canadair CRJ-200, registration SE-DUX performing postal flight PT-294 (dep Jan 7th) from Oslo to Tromso (Norway) with 2 crew and 4.5 tons of mail and parcels, was enroute at FL330 about 75nm west of Kiruna (Sweden) in the border region between Norway and Sweden, when the crew declared emergency at about 23:31Z. Radar and radio contact was subsequently lost, the aircraft did not arrive at any airport. The aircraft was later located having impacted the side of a mountain northwest of Lake Akkajaure about 10km from the border to Norway in mountaineous area without road access.

The airline reported in the morning, that the crew declared emergency at 23:31, the aircraft disappeared from radar immediately thereafter. A subsequent search for the aircraft by air located the wreckage at Lake Akkajaure in the Swedish Lapplandsfjällen near the Norwegian border at 03:10. Emergency services are on their way to the crash site on the ground. The captain (42) had accumulated 3,173 hours total and 2,050 hours on type, the first officer (34) 3,050 hours total and 900 hours on type, the aircraft had accumulated 38,601 flight hours in 31,036 flight cycles.

Norwegian Air Force reported the crash site is very small, overall diameter being 50 meters, and is evidence of a high energy impact.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4920a18a&opt=0
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

Sembra caduto proprio in verticale, non ci sono segni di strisciate e soprattutto non si vede alcun rottame. Impressionante.
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

Guardando le foto dell'impatto mi è venuto in mente il video, ora rimosso, del 737-500 della Tarstan Air che precipitava in verticale.
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

dove si vedono le foto?
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

dove si vedono le foto?
Guardando la pagina di avherald postato sopra ci sono 2 foto, mentre seguendo un link da ASN c'è anche un video della zona dell'impatto..

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20160108-0
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/...tet-ved-grensen-knust-i-smaabiter/a/23592452/

Qui il video del 737 Tatarstan russo precipitato in verticale sull'aeroporto di Kazan che ricordava mizar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKHpUEHY2tI
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

Molto strano un incidente di questo tipo, trattandosi di un cargo potrebbe essere dipeso dal materiale trasportato (incendio) ma difficile che causi una caduta cosi repentina, attendiamo i responsi ufficiali.

saluti
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

sarebbe più plausibile uno sbilanciamento del carico magari mal fissato che ha spostato il baricentro dell'aereo.
ovvio che la mia è una teoria non la conclusione d'inchiesta
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

Come sempre, evitiamo di sostituirci alle inchieste tecniche sull'incidente ed a fare ipotesi.
Grazie.
 
Re: CRJ-200 West Air Sweden cargo si schianta in Norvegia

Ho scoperto ora che l'aereo si è schiantato in Svezia, non in Norvegia...
 
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On Jan 10th 2016 the SHK reported that about 1.5 cubic meters of fluid, about 1200 kg/1500 liters/2640 lbs of largely aviation fuel, needed to be removed from the crater at the crash site during Saturday (Jan 9th). Rescue and Recovery still focus on finding the crew, which remains unaccounted for. The flight data recorder has been recovered in seriously damaged condition on Saturday, the memory module is now being checked whether it can be read out. On Saturday parts of the cockpit voice recorder, without the memory module, were discovered, on Sunday the memory module was discovered too. The SHK wrote: "Because the aircraft's two black boxes have been found the Commission of Inquiry is hopeful to be able to determine why the aircraft crashed. Extracting information and analyzing it could take a few weeks."

 
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On Jan 26th 2016 the SHK reported that the investigation managed to read out both cockpit voice and flight data recorder, the CVR does contain the talks of the crew during the accident flight. The investigation is currently analysing and validating the recordings. A preliminary report is estimated to be released in a week or two.
 
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On Mar 9th 2016 the SHK conducted a press conference introducing a preliminary report (The Aviation Herald later succeeded in receiving the report) to Swedish Media. Swedish Media are reporting that according to the investigator in charge the IRS (Inertial Reference System) data recorded on the flight data recorder do not match the accident flight - the investigation therefore is looking into what data the crew actually received exploring a possible theory that the crew might have received erroneous data prompting them to disconnect the autopilot. An expletive can be heard on the cockpit voice recorder after the autopilot was disconnected. 16 seconds later the distress call was made, after another 17 seconds the aircraft reached the highest recorded speed of 950kph (512 knots), the engines reduced to idle thrust, and the aircraft impacted ground at about that speed (508 knots last recorded speed) 80 seconds after the aircraft departed controlled flight. The investigation is ongoing, a final report is estimated by December 2016.

On March 9th 2016 later the afternoon the SHK released their interim report stating that there had been no significant weather along the planned route of the aircraft which took the aircraft into Swedish Airspace still controlled by Norwegian ATC. The flightplan requested FL330 for cruise.

The flight departed normally and was enroute at FL330 without anomaly until about 70 minutes into the flight and until 80 seconds prior to ground impact. About 70 minutes into the flight the captain exclaimed a strong expression, immediately after the cavalry charge (autopilot disconnect aural indication) sounded, the flight data recorder recorded the autopilot disconnect, too. The cavalry charge continued for the next 18 seconds. Following the autopilot disconnect the FDR recorded both elevators went into the nose down positions, all angle of attack sensors indicated negative angles of attack and the aircraft entered a descent reaching a vertical acceleration of -1G causing the G-Load warning system to activate issuing a triple chime, a synthetic voice alert indicated low oil pressure for both engines.

The FDR showed that the stabilizer trim went from 0.9 degrees nose up to 1.7 degrees nose down, the according clacker sound indicating stabilizer trim movement were heard on the CVR. Immediately after a high bank angle warning activated.

17 seconds after the autopilot disconnect the aircraft accelerated through 315 KIAS (VMO, maximum operating speed), the overspeed warning activated, the vertical acceleration turned into positive values.

Another 16 seconds later (33 seconds after the start of the event) the first officer transmitted a "MAYDAY" message which was confirmed by ATC, the aircraft had accelerated to 400 KIAS, the stabilizer trim began to recover and was at 0.3 degrees nose down. The captain called "Mach trim", the engines were reduced to idle thrust. The aircraft continued to accelerate however and reached 508 KIAS (last recorded speed), the vertical acceleration reached +3G, the aircraft's ailerons and spoilerons were mainly deflected to the left throughout the event.

The SHK stated: "Radar data and the accident site position indicate that the track was changed about 75 degrees to the right during the event. The crew was active during the entire event. The dialogue between the pilots consisted mainly of different perceptions regarding turn directions. They also expressed the need to climb. The aircraft collided with the ground one minute and twenty seconds after the initial height loss."

The SHK reported: "The validation of the parameters showed that four of the parameters could not be compatible with the aircraft's actual movement. The concerned parameters were pitch angle, roll angle, magnetic heading and ground speed. Those parameters emanate from the airplane’s IRU units"

The SHK continued that the pitch angle recorded by the FDR does not match the actual progress of the flight (see graphics below, showing blue the actual recorded pitch angles and green the computed pitch angles), the pitch angles were computed based on true airspeed and acceleration data, the computed pitch angles may be a few degrees off as the actual bank angles were not known. The computation of the other parameters is still in progress.
 
Polemiche dei sindacati sulla pubblicazione dell'interim report da parte della Swedish Accident Investigation Authority (SHK)
http://atwonline.com/safety/swedish-interim-accident-report-westjet-crash-meets-controversy
Swedish interim accident report on West Atlantic crash meets controversy

Swedish accident investigators working to discover the cause of a crash of a Swedish West Atlantic Bombardier CRJ-200PF in January have defended the release of a transcript of the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) tape.
The aircraft, flying from the Norwegian capital, Oslo, to the northern city of Tromsø, crashed around 70 minutes into the Jan. 7 flight, just across the Swedish border. The pilot and co-pilot died in the accident.
An interim report from Statens haverikommission, the Swedish Accident Investigation Authority (SHK) revealed that the aircraft, flying at 33,000 ft., experienced no problems until 80 seconds before the impact.
Then, during the pilots’ approach briefing, the pilot in command, flying in the left seat, uttered an exclamation immediately before the aural warning for autopilot disconnect sounded.
The aircraft entered a dive. After 15 seconds the maximum speed (VMO) of 315 kts. was exceeded. Speed continued to build to 508 kts. as the co-pilot broadcast a mayday signal and the pilots apparently wrestled with the controls.
Both the flight data recorder (FDR) and CVR were recovered from the crash scene and have yielded information.
The interim report states, “Four parameters recorded by the FDR have shown to be non-compatible with the aircraft’s actual movement. The continued investigation will, among other subjects, focus on clarifying in which way this might have affected the airplane’s instruments.”
However, the interim report’s inclusion of a CVR transcript was condemned by two pilots’ unions, the International Federation of Airline Pilots’ Associations (IFALPA) and the European Cockpit Association.
“Not only does the publication contravene the internationally agreed principles of accident investigation confidentiality, set out in ICAO Annex 13 and EU Regulation 996/2010, but it unnecessarily adds to the burden of the victims’ families and is also a breach of trust to all those involved in commercial aviation,” the organizations said in a statement.
ICAO Annex 13 required that CVR content should only be disclosed if pertinent to the analysis of the accident or incident, they said. The interim report contained no such analysis, added IFALPA president Martin Chalk.
SHK chairman and deputy director-general Jonas Bäckstrand, in a statement to ATW, said that while Annex 13 specified that information from a CVR should be included in the final report or its appendices only when pertinent to the analysis of the accident or incident, it was “silent on the matter when it comes to preliminary reports or interim statements.” There was no prohibition on publishing transcripts in an interim report, he said.
“SHK has considered that it was relevant to publish parts of the transcript at an early stage. The reasons for this were to avoid unnecessary speculations about the cause of the accident and to protect the pilots and their relatives by presenting the existing facts that establish that the initial event was of a technical nature and not induced by the pilots.
“Immediately thereafter, one of the pilots reacted by expressing himself and took action. Furthermore, the information from the CVR shows that both pilots were in [the] cockpit during the sequence of events and actively tried to solve the situation but did not succeed.”
The investigation is continuing. A final report is expected to be published in December this year.