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Wall Street analyst predicts commercial market exit for Bombardier

A top Wall Street analyst views Bombardier’s pending sale of the CSeries programme to Airbus as a key step in the Canadian manufacturer’s larger plan to exit the commercial aircraft business.

Speaking to the Pacific Northwest Aviation Alliance conference near Seattle on 13 February, Merrill Lynch senior equity analyst Ron Epstein traced the agreement to the hiring of chief executive Alain Bellemare in February 2015.
“When the new management team came in place, one of their goals was to, how do I say, de-leverage the company from its reliance on commercial aviation. They quickly put Bombardier on a path to become a transportation and business jet company,” Epstein says.
“My expectation is, if you roll the clock forward that’s what we’ll see from Bombardier,” he adds.
In October, Airbus agreed to acquire a 50.01% stake in the CSeries joint venture in a non-cash transaction. Airbus and Bombardier expect the deal to close in the second half of this year, if approved by anti-trust authorities.
The partnership was proposed two years after Bombardier narrowly avoided bankruptcy, with its ambitious CSeries programme over-budget, behind schedule and struggling to attract orders.
After ushering the CS100 and CS300 into service and closing two loss-making orders in 2016, Bombardier continued to struggle with ramping up production, delivering only half of the originally planned 35 deliveries in 2017.
Bombardier continues to sell the Q400 turboprop and CRJ900 regional jets to airlines, but the company has proposed no new commercial products to replace them.
Airbus did not pay Bombardier cash for the majority stake in the CSeries, but the partnership between the two companies may provide other benefits, Epstein says.
Bombardier’s aerostructures plant in Belfast has been selected to build engine nacelles for the Airbus A320neo, he says. FG
 
Bombardier's trade court win came down to seat count

The US International Trade Commission's ruling in favour of Bombardier did not hinge on some obscure legal technicality in the end.

Rather, the decision came down to a straightforward conclusion: that the smallest version of Boeing's 737 family does not directly compete with the CSeries.
Therefore, subsidies and price dumping aside, Boeing suffered no harm by Bombardier's 2016 sale of 75 CS100s to Delta Air Lines, according to the ITC's full investigative report released on 14 February.
"Delta did not consider any new 100- to 150-seat [aircraft] from Boeing because the 126-seat 737-700 and the 138-seat 737 Max 7 were unsuitable for the mission profile in question," says the report.
The nearly 200-page document explains why the ITC's four commissioners all voted "negative" to whether Bombardier's sale hurt Boeing on 26 January.
"Specific airlines engaged in purchasing campaigns may not consider CSeries aircraft to be substitutable with the 737-700 or 737 Max 7, particularly if they are seeking to acquire aircraft for mission profiles that require fewer seats," the report says.
The bottom line: "We determine that an industry in the United States is not threatened with material injury by reason of imports of 100- to 150-seat [aircraft] from Canada that are sold in the United States at less-than-fair value and that are subsidised by [Canada]."
Bombardier says the report sweeps away any doubt about the opinions of the ITC's four commissioners, freeing Bombardier to progress with CSeries deliveries from Canada to US customers, starting with Delta Air Lines.
"The ITC ruling clears the path for us to support Delta this year as we work to close our partnership with Airbus," says Bombardier. "The ITC correctly recognised that the 737 family of aircraft, with a deep backlog and record profits, is not under threat."
"We are moving full speed ahead with finalising our partnership with Airbus… We look forward to delivering the CSeries to the US market," Bombardier adds.
Delta previously told the ITC that it intended to only take CSeries from Bombardier's proposed assembly line Alabama, not from Montreal Mirabel.
Not anymore.
"As the ITC notes, we have contractual commitments to begin taking deliveries later this year and the ITC decision clears the way for Delta to accept deliveries in Canada as well," Delta says in a statement. "Delta still intends to take as many deliveries as possible from the new Airbus/Bombardier facility in Mobile, Alabama, as soon as that facility is up and running."
No problem, says the ITC.
"Delta might indeed import at least some, if not all, of the CS100s due to be delivered pending any renegotiation of the terms of its contract with Bombardier," says the ITC's report. "We do not find, however, that Delta’s imports of CS100s from Canada will come at the domestic industry’s expense."
Bombardier says it intends to move forward with the Alabama site despite winning the dispute.
Boeing declines to comment, saying it is reviewing the report.
Though the Chicago-based airframer could still appeal, the release of the ITC's report largely concludes the trade dispute launched by Boeing in April 2017.

THE PETITION
Boeing alleged in a petition to the US Department of Commerce that a heavily-subsidised Bombardier dumped CS100s to Delta at an artificially-low price of $19.6 million each, harming Boeing's sale of 737-700s and 737-7s, and violating US trade law.
The Delta sale, and an allegedly lowball CSeries offer to United Airlines, threatened the "viability" of the small 737 models, former Boeing vice-chairman Ray Conner told US trade officials last year.
Bombardier and Delta fought back, insisting that the smaller CSeries does not compete with any 737s. Delta said the only aircraft Boeing offered to meet Delta's needs were used Embraer 190s.
The petition kicked up concurrent investigations by the US Department of Commerce and the ITC.
Last year, the Commerce Department ruled in Boeing's favour, slapping CSeries imports with 292% import tariffs.
Seemingly facing a devastating loss in trade court, Bombardier partnered with Airbus in October 2017, unveiling plans to assemble the CSeries in Alabama in a move the company said would free the aircraft from import duties.
As part of the deal, Bombardier intends to hand 50.01% of the CSeries programme over to Airbus in exchange for marketing, sales and procurement support, with no money changing hands. The companies say the deal will close in the second half of 2018.
But the ITC held the final card.
To many observers' surprise, on 26 January the ITC ruled that Boeing actually suffered no harm by Bombardier's sale, a decision that swept away the 292% import duties.

'SMALL MAINLINE AIRCRAFT'
The just-released final report delves into that decision, discussing particulars of trade law, legal definitions, airline economics and aircraft performance.
The ITC actually upheld Boeing's argument that the CSeries and 737-700/Max 7 occupy the same market segment. It also agreed that airlines can, to a "moderate degree" substitute those 737s for CSeries.
But those points are moot because Delta did not want an aircraft as large as the 737, the report says.
Delta, in 2015, launched a campaign specifically aimed at purchasing a "small mainline aircraft" with 100-110 seats to replace regional aircraft, notes the ITC.
The airline considered purchasing four aircraft models, none of them currently made by Boeing: 109-seat CS100s, 96-seat E190s, 100-seat Embraer 195s and 110-seat Boeing 717s.
"Because Boeing did not lose this sale to Delta, Delta’s imports of CS100s will not displace domestically produced 100- to 150-seat [aircraft] from the US market," the report says.
The ITC notes that Spirit Airlines and JetBlue Airways likewise agreed that the CSeries does not compete directly with the 737s.
The commission drilled holes into other arguments made by Boeing, including its contention that the Delta deal will propel Bombardier to more US sales.
Indeed, other airlines like Spirit and JetBlue have expressed interest in CSeries.
"We find insufficient evidence to conclude that Bombardier is likely to secure additional sales… in the imminent future", the report says. Even if Bombardier does land more deals, Boeing will not suffer, it adds.
The ITC finds "mixed" evidence that CSeries competed with the 737-700 for United's business. Boeing said it won that sale only after CSeries pressure pushed prices down.
But the ITC says Boeing "lost no revenue" because United later converted its 737-700 order to larger 737 variants.
Boeing also claimed that Bombardier's Delta sale would depress future sale prices. The ITC questioned that claim, too, noting that other manufacturers likewise use discounted "launch pricing".
"Boeing offered substantial discounts on many orders for out-of-scope 787 [aircraft] during the years following the new model’s launch in 2004, but then secured substantially higher prices on subsequent orders," says the report.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...ade-court-win-came-down-to-seat-count-445965/
 
United 'very seriously' looking at CSeries and E2

United Airlines is "very seriously" looking at small mainline narrowbody aircraft, chief financial officer Andrew Levy tells FlightGlobal.

The Chicago-based carrier is evaluating the Bombardier CSeries and Embraer E-Jet-E2 family, as well as the Airbus A319neo and Boeing 737 Max 7, for its future fleet needs, he said on the sidelines of an industry conference in San Diego this week.
The aircraft, which could seat in the range of about 110-130 passengers, would help United meet its 4-6% annual capacity growth target through 2020, and could be used as a bargaining chip in its upcoming contract negotiations with pilots.

The airline will fuel its growth this year with the addition of 40 Bombardier CRJ200s but executives call the fleet additions "temporary" with the hope that they can win some form of scope relief from pilots to replace them with larger 76-seat regional jets.
"We can wind up turning 50 seaters into larger regional jets, but we make some kind of commitment to [pilots], whether it's a growth commitment or jobs," said Scott Kirby, president of United, in January.
United's current pilot contact caps the number of regional jets with 70 to 76 seats in its regional fleet at 255, a number it hit in 2017.
The carrier is weighing the benefits that the CSeries, E2 or other models could provide in terms of scope relief against the added cost of flying them with mainline pilots, says Levy. It aims to have an "informed" view on the segment by the time it enters contract negotiations with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) later this year.
United and ALPA can begin negotiations in May to replace the contract that becomes amendable in January 2019.
The airline has flip-flopped on adding a small mainline aircraft in recent years. It ordered 65 737-700s to address this need in 2016, however, a change in management later that year prompted the deferral and conversion of those aircraft to larger 737-800s and 737 Max 9s.
Then last year, Kirby appeared to kill the idea when he called the economics of the aircraft class "really challenging".
"We're in a world where flying bigger and bigger airplanes is just better," he said in August 2017.
An order from United would be a big win for either Bombardier or Embraer. Both the CSeries and E2 have failed to attract any major new customers in the past two years, with Air Canada's order for 45 CSeries in June 2016 the last major commitment to either type, Flight Fleets Analyzer shows.
The CSeries' US prospects have brightened since a favourable ruling in a trade dispute with Boeing by the US International Trade Commission earlier this year. The import duties could have effectively killed its prospects in the country, at least until a proposed assembly line in Mobile, Alabama, opens after 2020.
When asked, Levy says the ITC's ruling has not influenced United's decision to evaluate the CSeries.
United plans to grow by 4-6% annually through 2020, with much of the growth this year driven by the CRJ200 additions. While the small jets serve a niche in the regional fleet, they are inefficient and will be a unit cost headwind in 2018, Levy said in January.
Shifting to larger gauge aircraft, whether 76-seat regional jets or 110-seat mainline aircraft, would reduce unit costs compared to the 50-seaters and create new revenue opportunities, for example ancillary fees from passengers who buy up economy plus or first-class seats.
"It's another type that adds a lot of complexity so we need to see if it fits for our network," says Levy on one issue United faces if it adds either the CSeries or E2.
Delta Air Lines, the only major US carrier with a sizeable fleet of 110-seat aircraft, manages that complexity while also outperforming United on a margin basis. The airline operates the Boeing 717 and has orders for the CS100, while also operating the A320, 737 family, and Boeing MD-88 and MD-90 families.
In the fourth quarter of 2017, the operating margin at Delta was 14.4% compared to 7.7% at United.
Embraer declines to comment on United's interest. Bombardier was not immediately available to comment.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/united-very-seriously-looking-at-cseries-and-e2-446510/
 
Boeing rinuncia a ricorrere in appello contro la sentenza che annullava i "superdazi" sul Bombardier CS. Probabilmente perchè costruendolo nella fabbrica statunitense di Airbus, non ci sarebbero stati appigli legali sufficienti. E magari anche perchè qualcuno ha ricordato a Boeing le miliardate di dollari che a propria volta incassa regolarmente dallo Zio Sam attraverso programmi militari "leggermente" gonfiati.
In compenso, con questo maldestro tentativo di celodurismo, la volpi di Seattle hanno spinto l'ottimo progetto CS tra le braccia di Airbus. Un successo su tutta la linea.

Boeing will not appeal US trade panel's Bombardier tariff vote


  • 23 MARCH, 2018
  • SOURCE: FLIGHT DASHBOARD
  • BY: JON HEMMERDINGER
  • BOSTON
Boeing confirms it will not appeal a decision by the US International Trade Commission (ITC) that nullified steep tariffs on the importation into the USA of Bombardier CS100s.

"We did not appeal the ITC's decision in the Bombardier case," says Boeing, adding that the appeal deadline was 22 March.
Though Boeing declines to comment about the reasons behind its decision, its failure to appeal closes a highly-contentious trade dispute and signals Boeing has stepped aside as Bombardier prepares to deliver CS100s to Delta Air Lines.
Bombardier has said it will begin delivering the Delta aircraft this year.
Boeing set the dispute in motion by filing a petition with the US Department of Commerce in April 2017.
Boeing argued in that document that Bombardier violated US trade law by receiving government subsidies on the order of $4.5 billion, and then "dumping" CS100s in the USA at below-cost prices with a 75-aircraft sale to Delta Air Linesin 2016.
The US manufacturing giant claimed that sale harmed sales of the smallest versions of its 737 line, the 737-700 and 737 Max 7.
The Commerce Department ultimately sided with Boeing, slapping CS100 imports with 292% import tariffs in 2017. Bombardier had not yet imported any aircraft, but the steep tariff threatened the Delta sale and smothered the company's prospects of closing CSeries sales with other US airlines.
Bombardier responded with plans to partner with Airbus and open a CSeries assembly site in the USA – thereby avoiding the tariffs.
But another US agency – the ITC – held the last word.
ITC board members nullified the tariffs in January when they concluded Bombardier's Delta sale did not harm Boeing or any US industry.
The ITC's final report said Boeing suffered no harm because it sells no aircraft that competes with the CS100.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...t-appeal-us-trade-panels-bombardier-t-447027/
 
Airbus cambierà il nome al CSeries una volta completato il take-over del programma. I nomi più papabili sono A210 per il CS100 e A230 per il CS300.

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Ps: perdonare la fretta del post

EDIT: già qualche tempo fa avevo provato a ipotizzare un’integrazione della piattaforma CSeries che avrebbe potuto portare alla cancellazione del 319neo che tanto successo non ha avuto e la sostituzione dello stesso con i modelli ex Bombardier. Il nome A200 però è piuttosto bruttino.
 
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Al limite potrebbero chiamare il CS100 A219 e il CS300 A220... già meglio sarebbe... non possono chiamarli A119 per ovvie complicazioni con gli elicotteri Agusta

ciauz sky3boy

Ma semplicemente qualcosa come A314 e A315 sì A me non piace proprio quel 2 davanti. Se poi sviluppassero una versione un po’ più capiente (si era parlato del CS500) arrivi a A316 per esempio. Il 17 si salta che porta sfiga e sei in linea con A318 e oltre.
 
Per Airbus comunque è un affarone: hanno messo sul piatto 3,2 miliardi di dollari per il 50,01% del programma, poco meno del doppio di quanto ha speso Embraer per gli E2 (1,7), e si porta a casa un temibile concorrente, tecnologicamente avanzato, già volante e certificato, che con un colpo di magia viene inglobato e standardizzato nel lineup a costo quasi zero.
Chapeau
 
Per Airbus comunque è un affarone: hanno messo sul piatto 3,2 miliardi di dollari per il 50,01% del programma, poco meno del doppio di quanto ha speso Embraer per gli E2 (1,7), e si porta a casa un temibile concorrente, tecnologicamente avanzato, già volante e certificato, che con un colpo di magia viene inglobato e standardizzato nel lineup a costo quasi zero.
Chapeau

Diciamo anche che hanno avuto il coltello dalla parte del manico, perché la controparte o accettava praticamente qualsiasi prezzo proposto oppure moriva seduta stante da quanto stava alla canna del gas.
 
JUST IN | Airbus and Bombardier in family ties with C Series deal

Airbus and Bombardier closed their C Series agreement after receiving the necessary approvals. The integration of the plane family in Airbus’ catalogue will become effective from July 1, 2018.

Airbus is to acquire a majority stake in the Société en commandite Avions C Series (SCAS), a joint venture which was originally created by Bombardier and Investissement Québec.


SCAS is in charge of the production of the CS100 and CS300, two regional airliners with a capacity of respectively 120 and 140 seats in standard configuration. The C Series company expects to benefit from Airbus global reach to boost the sales of its planes. The plant is based in Mirabel, Quebec, Canada, and currently employs 2.200 people. Another assembly line is expected to be created in Mobile, Alabama, United States, where Airbus already owns a facility for the American market.

A total of 17 C Series aircraft were delivered in 2017. Bombardier and Airbus expect to increase the output in the years to come, with a goal of 35 planes delivered in 2018. The C Series family currently has a backlog of 115 CS100s and 258 CS300s orders. The last order was placed on May 28, 2018, by airBaltic for 30 CS300s with an option for 30 more.

Following the officialization of the partnership, new contracts are expected, most likely during Farnborough International Airshow in July 2018, when the C Series will be presented for the first time as part of Airbus catalogue. The European manufacturer estimates that 6.000 aircraft will be needed in that market segment over the next 20 years.


Despite rumors in April 2018, the change of name of the CS100 and CS300 into respectively A210 and A230 was not confirmed.

Following the agreement, Airbus will acquire 50.01% of the program for a token one canadian dollar. Bombardier should keep a stake of about 31%, while the part of the government from Quebec will be reduced to about 19%. Of the $6 billion that costed the development of the project, $1 billion belonged to the government, after a cash injection back in 2015. Airbus will have the possibility to buy back Quebec government’s share of the program by 2023, and Bombardier’s by 2025.

Philippe Balducchi from Airbus should take the reins of the program. His first mission will be to meet Bombardier suppliers to negotiate a reduction in production costs, while promising in exchange an increase in orders.

The biggest supplier with which Airbus will have to bargain is United Technologies (UTC). The U.S.-based giant owns Pratt & Whitney, the manufacturer of the exclusive engine powering the C Series, the PW1000G. UTC also acquired Rockwell Collins in September 2017. The avionics company provides most of the cockpit systems of Bombardier’s regional jetliner.

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Primo cliente Russo

Red Wings announces CS300 lease deal

Russian airline Red Wings has leased six Airbus CS300 aircraft with deliveries beginning next May.
Red Wings announced the agreement on Twitter on 22 June, becoming the Russian launch operator of the CS300.
The six CS300s will be operated with Russian carrier Nordavia as part of a joint route network.
Red Wings and Nordavia merged last year.
Ilyushin Finance, which has a backlog of 20 CS300s, acquired a majority stake in Red Wings in 2016.
Airbus became the majority owner of the joint company that manages the CSeries aircraft family on 1 July. Bombardier and Investissement Quebec are now minority owners. FG

 
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