Austria: Laser punta pilota Ryanair in atterraggio


Il problema c'è eccome...

UK CAA FODCOM 05/09

Illumination of Aircraft by Bright Lights or Lasers

This FODCOM provides information to AOC holders on actions that could be taken by crews if their aircraft are illuminated by bright lights or lasers during operation. Guidance is also provided on recommended mitigation, follow-up and reporting actions.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/fod200905.pdf
 
Il problema c'è eccome...

UK CAA FODCOM 05/09

Illumination of Aircraft by Bright Lights or Lasers

This FODCOM provides information to AOC holders on actions that could be taken by crews if their aircraft are illuminated by bright lights or lasers during operation. Guidance is also provided on recommended mitigation, follow-up and reporting actions.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/fod200905.pdf

l´articolo parla di rischio di accecamento. che qui non sembra invece essere preso in considerazione.


Crews who have been subject to bright light or laser illumination can expect minor and transient visual impairment, e.g. a retinal after-image remaining visible for a short time, or short-lived flash-type blindness of the sort to be expected after a normal “flash” photograph has been taken. It is recommended that, following an illumination incident believed to be from a laser, affected crew members should seek medical evaluation, preferably by a qualified vision specialist, before returning to flying duties (see ICAO Document 9815, Manual on Laser Emitters and Flight Safety, Chapter 4). The incident should be reported to the CAA under the Mandatory Occurrence Report (MOR) scheme. The MOR should give as much detail of the occurrence as possible and should include brief details of any immediate post-flight medical assistance needed or given to crew members.
 
Avrei giurato che questo commento fosse stato il primo dopo il post iniziale, invece è il secondo...
Con una notizia così voi andate a guardare il LF? Mah...no comment...

Moralizzatore

Era una battuta per sdrammatizzare la brutta notizia e poi non ci possiamo fare nulla è deformazione professionale...:)

Non si è fatto male nessuno e la notizia è un po' esagerata secondo me ci sta

I missili terra-aria vengono puntati col laser? Ero convinto che usassero puntatori IR o a guida radar.

DaV

Al massino gli Aria Terra, vengono puntati col laser per tiri di precisione con osservatore a terra. Il soldato punta l'obiettivo, il Tomahawk o la bonba laser viene guidata verso il soggetto illuminato.

I terra aria seguono o traccia radar o Calore (IR)
 
Io invece faccio una considerazione molto ingenua e genuina...
Io ho il massimo della produzione LUDICO -Portatile di Laser casalinghi..riesco a fare max 200-300-metri .e per puntare un cartello stradale , a mano , ci vuole un colpo di culo..
PENSIERO...per puntare un aereo in movimento a 140Kts con traiettoria obliqua a 10 Km di distanza,,,che apparati alimentatori del suddetto Laser occorrono?????che cavalletto Azimut-Zenitale occorre??? chi e' il Mandrillo di turno che fa cio'???E perche'????e poi tante altre considerazioni pratiche e ovvie...che adesso non esprimo perche' devo fare colazione con un Porcetto-Agnello ..con Ananas e marmellata mista a un po di senape....ovviamente innaffiato dal Capuccino....( con schiuma ).
 
e allora mi informero´.

da questo casi segnalati in tutti il mondo, risultano casi di piloti accecati?

piu´ci penso e piu´si solidifica l´aria di bufala.

Ecco un articolo:

City's worst laser attacks on aircraft
Frank Walker
March 30, 2008

SIX aircraft flying into Sydney Airport have been hit in a co-ordinated attack by blinding green lights in what safety officials say is the city's worst laser attack.
Air traffic controllers closed the approach flight path and diverted incoming aircraft to a different runway on Friday night, forcing some flights to land up to half an hour late.
Air Services Australia said it was the first recorded "cluster attack" in which three or four people used lasers to make a co-ordinated attack on aircraft coming into the airport over heavily populated suburbs.
Last night airport sources said the aircraft belonged to Qantas, QantasLink and Eastern Australian Airlines. One of the pilots reported the laser beams appeared to be coming from the vicinity of a McDonald's restaurant near Bexley, about five kilometres south-west of the airport. Staff at the restaurant said they had not seen anything.
NSW Police Minister David Campbell vowed yesterday to change the law to classify powerful laser beams as illegal weapons.
"These gutless and cowardly attacks have to be stopped," he said. "I am preparing a proposal to cabinet to consider making these items a prohibited weapon."
Federal Home Affairs Minister Bob Debus said the Government would look at banning imports of laser lights, with exemptions for legitimate use.
"The fact there were six [attacks] in one night is a serious concern and I'll be asking customs to provide a report this week as it's now become urgent," he said.
Federal Police and Joint Airport Intelligence Groups were developing special mapping techniques to try to identify the source of laser lights.
The Government was looking at stiffer penalties for shining a laser light at an aircraft than the existing two years' jail, he said.
The laser attacks began about 10.15pm in the Bexley area, in Sydney's south-west, and continued until 10.30pm. The pilots notified air traffic control, which diverted incoming flights. When police reached the area at 10.45pm they could see no sign of the perpetrators. Yesterday, police canvassed the Bexley area.
Air Services Australia spokesman Bryan Nicholson said: "This was the worst attack in our experience. It was described by the pilots as a 'cluster attack', which implies some sort of co-ordination or organisation. This is extremely serious and dangerous."
Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesman Peter Gibson said the attacks were increasing in frequency. "There are five to six reports every week around Australia. It is extremely dangerous as it can temporarily blind a pilot or distract them as they are coming in to land. These laser beams are now so powerful they can shine up to five kilometres."
Police around Australia have stepped up efforts to catch laser operators because they fear the practice could cause a crash.
In January, Sydney police arrested a man who had a powerful 125milliwatt laser pointer in his possession after two planes flying over Merrylands were attacked by laser beams.
In September, a helicopter carrying a critically ill brain-surgery patient had to delay landing when the pilot was distracted by a laser beam.
Last year, penalties under the Civil Aviation Act for shining laser beams at aircraft were increased to two years' jail and fines of up to $30,000.
Australian and International Pilots Association general manager Peter Somerville said pilots wanted authorities to crack down on the lasers.
"These devices should be banned. There is no need for them. It is beyond stupid to point these at planes," he said. "We need to better co-ordinate with police so they can catch them in the act."
It is hard to ban the lasers as they are sold over the internet and customs finds it difficult to pick them up on their X-ray machines.


Non mi sembra proprio una bufala.....
 
Ultima modifica:
Anni fa le autorità di Las Vegas dovettero affrontare il problema dei potenti laser usati dai casino a scopo pubblicitario che in vari casi erano andati a colpire i cockpit degli aerei in atterraggio. Anche in quel caso si parlava di casi di cecità momentanea per il pilota colpito che passava in qualche decina di secondi o pochissimi minuti, quindi pericolosa per il volo. Mi sembra, vado a memoria, che dopo riunioni su riunioni vararono una normativa che regolava la potenza massima dei laser e che imponeva di programmare la rotazione della sorgente laser per evitare le rotte dell'aeroporto.
Certo qui siamo invece davanti ad atti dolosi veramente assurdi ma se pensate che c'è chi si diverte a lanciare sassi sulle autostrade!! Non c'e fine alla stupidità!
 
Lo hanno fatto Clark e Chavez in "Debito d'onore" ai due 767 AEW giapponesi. :)

Ciao
Massimo
 
Io invece faccio una considerazione molto ingenua e genuina...
Io ho il massimo della produzione LUDICO -Portatile di Laser casalinghi..riesco a fare max 200-300-metri .e per puntare un cartello stradale , a mano , ci vuole un colpo di culo..
PENSIERO...per puntare un aereo in movimento a 140Kts con traiettoria obliqua a 10 Km di distanza,,,che apparati alimentatori del suddetto Laser occorrono?????che cavalletto Azimut-Zenitale occorre??? chi e' il Mandrillo di turno che fa cio'???E perche'????e poi tante altre considerazioni pratiche e ovvie...che adesso non esprimo perche' devo fare colazione con un Porcetto-Agnello ..con Ananas e marmellata mista a un po di senape....ovviamente innaffiato dal Capuccino....( con schiuma ).

infatti l'articolo menziona un sistema che permette di fare il "lock" (quello che io definivo some sistema di tracking) con l'aereo
a mano libera e' assolutamente impossibile echiunque puo' citare ogni genere di articolo trovato sul web, ma a mano libera e' una super-bufala.
 
Certo che se il laser da pochi mw viene puntato a 20 km di distanza ,non e piu un puntino concentrato negli occhi del pilota ma si allarga e di conseguenza la potenza viene ridotta notevolmente.....questi tubi erano utilizzati nelle prime pistole laser prodotte dall symbol tecnoligh a luce rossa poi sostituiti dai led laser........e nonstante ci sparassimo addoso per leggerci i barcode.....non mi sembra che nessun cassiere sia mai rimasto "accecato" bah.........

Complimenti per la mira e la mano ferma!!!!!