Leonard Berberi colpisce ancora. Cosa vuol dire che un aereo viene acceso per fare allenamento? E poi perché ad altri è stato concesso di far rientrare i loro aerei?
https://www.corriere.it/cronache/19...5a147ab4-4f19-11e9-ad2b-d4651f1d6fda_amp.html
737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba
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Leonard Berberi colpisce ancora. Cosa vuol dire che un aereo viene acceso per fare allenamento? E poi perché ad altri è stato concesso di far rientrare i loro aerei?
https://www.corriere.it/cronache/19...5a147ab4-4f19-11e9-ad2b-d4651f1d6fda_amp.html
È corretto.
Se un 737NG non viene acceso per fare allenamento, i motori ingrassano e vanno in sovrappeso, così Boing li deve spostare più avanti e più in alto, tipo bypass gastrointestinale. È così che un 737NG diventa un MAX, che sta per Peso MAX. Per mantenerli sotto controllo, gli attaccano sopra un dispositivo medico, il MCAS; purtroppo si sa, ogni tanto i medicinali hanno effetti collaterali e, a quanto pare, non avevano aggiornato il foglietto illustrativo.
DaV
Il giorno in cui è scattato il grounding in Europa l’aereo aveva fatto MXP-CAI al pomeriggio ma avrebbe avuto tutto il tempo di fare il rientro o quantomeno di fare un ferry per tornare in base anche nei giorni successivi come diverse compagnie hanno fatto. Forse che sia l’Egitto a proibire il decollo? La butto lì
Come avevo anticipato qualche post fa, Garuda cancella l’ordine per 50 MAX8.
Garuda Indonesia (GA, Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta) has become the first B737 MAX customer to publically confirm it will cancel its order for the type.
The Indonesian carrier has orders for fifty B737-8s of which only one - PK-GDA (msn 62093) - has thus far been delivered. The remainder were deferred given the airline's financial restructuring which sought, among other objectives, to reduce costs and expenditure. As such, in September last year, Garuda said it had deferred five B737 MAX 8s that were to have delivered in 2018 and five that were to have arrived in 2019, to 2023 and 2024 respectively.
However, following the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines B737 MAX 8, ET-AVJ (msn 62450), on Sunday, March 10, in which all 158 passengers and crew on board were killed, the airline has moved to terminate the MAX order as a whole and is even looking to return PK-GDA.
"We have sent a letter to [Kevin] McAllister [the President and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes] declaring our intention to cancel the remaining 49 units," Chief executive Ari Ashkara told Liputan news.
According to him, following the crash of a Lion Air B737 MAX 8, PK-LQP (msn 43000), in October last year in which all 189 onboard were killed, passengers have refused to board MAX 8-operated flights with the recent Ethiopian Airlines tragedy serving only to deepen that distrust.
"So even though they may have fixed the MAX 8's systems, that passenger confidence is gone. So we asked for the order to be cancelled," he added.
Boeing officials will visit Indonesia this week to discuss Garuda's plans to terminate the order.
Lion Air Group has also signalled its intention to cancel its outstanding MAX order which currently numbers fifty B737-10s, 136 B737-8s, and one B737-9. The group's co-founder, Rusdi Kirana, said in November last year that his firm had felt betrayed at the way in which Boeing had treated it following October's crash. At the time, he said Boeing had attempted to exonerate itself by pointing out maintenance issues and pilot error as underlying causes in the crash.
Thus far, no other MAX customers have yet terminated their orders on the basis of the two crashes. However, many have conditioned their taking delivery of outstanding aircraft on the MAX passing more rigorous air safety checks.
Ch-Aviation
Garuda Indonesia (GA, Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta) has become the first B737 MAX customer to publically confirm it will cancel its order for the type.
The Indonesian carrier has orders for fifty B737-8s of which only one - PK-GDA (msn 62093) - has thus far been delivered. The remainder were deferred given the airline's financial restructuring which sought, among other objectives, to reduce costs and expenditure. As such, in September last year, Garuda said it had deferred five B737 MAX 8s that were to have delivered in 2018 and five that were to have arrived in 2019, to 2023 and 2024 respectively.
However, following the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines B737 MAX 8, ET-AVJ (msn 62450), on Sunday, March 10, in which all 158 passengers and crew on board were killed, the airline has moved to terminate the MAX order as a whole and is even looking to return PK-GDA.
"We have sent a letter to [Kevin] McAllister [the President and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes] declaring our intention to cancel the remaining 49 units," Chief executive Ari Ashkara told Liputan news.
According to him, following the crash of a Lion Air B737 MAX 8, PK-LQP (msn 43000), in October last year in which all 189 onboard were killed, passengers have refused to board MAX 8-operated flights with the recent Ethiopian Airlines tragedy serving only to deepen that distrust.
"So even though they may have fixed the MAX 8's systems, that passenger confidence is gone. So we asked for the order to be cancelled," he added.
Boeing officials will visit Indonesia this week to discuss Garuda's plans to terminate the order.
Lion Air Group has also signalled its intention to cancel its outstanding MAX order which currently numbers fifty B737-10s, 136 B737-8s, and one B737-9. The group's co-founder, Rusdi Kirana, said in November last year that his firm had felt betrayed at the way in which Boeing had treated it following October's crash. At the time, he said Boeing had attempted to exonerate itself by pointing out maintenance issues and pilot error as underlying causes in the crash.
Thus far, no other MAX customers have yet terminated their orders on the basis of the two crashes. However, many have conditioned their taking delivery of outstanding aircraft on the MAX passing more rigorous air safety checks.
Ch-Aviation
...indirettamente è intervenuto in questo argomento anche il "famoso x altre faccende" bogdan tibusche su socialtv network in questo video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGFAv6AJHeg
interessante.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGFAv6AJHeg
interessante.
Interessante per nulla.
Fa di fatto una sintesi in chiave complottistica di quanto è scritto qui su AC e che evidentemente si è letto con attenzione.
Senza considerare che giunge a conclusioni, oltre che semplicistiche, anche del tutto avventate considerato che per l'incidente del Lion manca il report finale e per l'Ethiopian non c'è nemmeno il preliminare.
Concordo, una serie di affermazioni errate, fuorvianti o sostanzialmente prive di prove.
Dopo il reportage sulle falle dei prezzi delle compagnie aeree chi meglio di lui?
Cosa vi aspettate il target è quello che è, basta vedere un commento al video
Boeing 737 Max 8, la Cina ritira la licenza di idoneità per dubbi sulla sicurezza
https://tg24.sky.it/mondo/2019/03/26/cina-ritira-boeing-737-max-dubbi-sicurezza.html
https://tg24.sky.it/mondo/2019/03/26/cina-ritira-boeing-737-max-dubbi-sicurezza.html
Penso che sia una brutta notizia per Boeing, se vogliono riottenere la licenza non basta una modifica software...
io invece ci vedo una mossa politica; quasi non gli par vero ai cinesi 'sto guaio...
Dal momento che, secondo la legge di Murphy, se qualcosa puó andare storta lo farà, oggi un volo ferry di un MAX8 Southwest da Orlando a Victorville è dovuto rientrare poco dopo il decollo per problemi ad un motore.
dall`Orlando Sentinel
Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 MAX plane — the same model that has been grounded after two recent crashes — made an emergency landing Tuesday afternoon at Orlando International Airport, a spokeswoman said.
There were no passengers aboard. Two pilots were flying to California when they encountered engine problems about 10 minutes after takeoff, said Rod Johnson, spokesman for the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority.
They turned around and landed safely, Johnson said. It happened around 3 p.m.
According to the online flight-tracking service FlightAware, the plane was going to Victorville, Calif., which is about 85 miles northeast of Los Angeles. It was being flown there for storage, Johnson said.
Boeing 737 Max crisis sparks U.S. review of how FAA approves jets
The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed the emergency landing in a statement.
“The crew of Southwest Airlines Flight 8701, a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, declared an emergency after the aircraft experienced a reported engine problem while departing from Orlando International Airport in Florida about 2:50 p.m. today,” the statement said. “The aircraft returned and landed safely in Orlando. No passengers were aboard the aircraft, which was being ferried to Victorville, Calif., for storage. The FAA is investigating.”
Dan Landson, a spokesman for Southwest, said it was a “ferry flight” to California for temporary storage. He said the pilots followed protocol and there were no injuries.
“The Boeing 737 MAX 8 will be moved to our Orlando maintenance facility for a review,” Landson said.
According to a March 13 FAA order that grounded all Boeing 737 MAX aircraft in the country, airlines are allowed to fly the planes without any passengers to a base for storage or maintenance.
The emergency landing comes as federal regulators continue to investigate two deadly crashes involving the plane model. Aviation authorities across the globe grounded Boeing 737 Max aircraft following the crashes in Ethiopia and off the coast of Indonesia.
A Lion Air flight crashed into the Java Sea after taking off from an airport in Jakarta, Indonesia, Oct. 29, killing 184 passengers and five crew members. On March 10, an Ethiopian Airlines flight to Kenya crashed six minutes after takeoff, killing 149 passengers and eight crew.
Southwest has 34 Max aircraft. On Saturday, the company began flying them to a facility in Victorville, without passengers, to free up space at the airports where they had been parked.
One runway at OIA is closed while officials conduct an inspection. No other flights were affected, said GOAA spokeswoman Carolyn Fennell.
Southwest and American Airlines are the two largest domestic owners of 737 Max 8 and 9 aircraft, and are among five airlines that were flying the planes out of Orlando International Airport prior to their grounding, along with WestJet, Air Canada and Gol.
dharris@orlandosentinel.com, 407-420-5471 or @DavidHarrisOS
Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 MAX plane — the same model that has been grounded after two recent crashes — made an emergency landing Tuesday afternoon at Orlando International Airport, a spokeswoman said.
There were no passengers aboard. Two pilots were flying to California when they encountered engine problems about 10 minutes after takeoff, said Rod Johnson, spokesman for the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority.
They turned around and landed safely, Johnson said. It happened around 3 p.m.
According to the online flight-tracking service FlightAware, the plane was going to Victorville, Calif., which is about 85 miles northeast of Los Angeles. It was being flown there for storage, Johnson said.
Boeing 737 Max crisis sparks U.S. review of how FAA approves jets
The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed the emergency landing in a statement.
“The crew of Southwest Airlines Flight 8701, a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, declared an emergency after the aircraft experienced a reported engine problem while departing from Orlando International Airport in Florida about 2:50 p.m. today,” the statement said. “The aircraft returned and landed safely in Orlando. No passengers were aboard the aircraft, which was being ferried to Victorville, Calif., for storage. The FAA is investigating.”
Dan Landson, a spokesman for Southwest, said it was a “ferry flight” to California for temporary storage. He said the pilots followed protocol and there were no injuries.
“The Boeing 737 MAX 8 will be moved to our Orlando maintenance facility for a review,” Landson said.
According to a March 13 FAA order that grounded all Boeing 737 MAX aircraft in the country, airlines are allowed to fly the planes without any passengers to a base for storage or maintenance.
The emergency landing comes as federal regulators continue to investigate two deadly crashes involving the plane model. Aviation authorities across the globe grounded Boeing 737 Max aircraft following the crashes in Ethiopia and off the coast of Indonesia.
A Lion Air flight crashed into the Java Sea after taking off from an airport in Jakarta, Indonesia, Oct. 29, killing 184 passengers and five crew members. On March 10, an Ethiopian Airlines flight to Kenya crashed six minutes after takeoff, killing 149 passengers and eight crew.
Southwest has 34 Max aircraft. On Saturday, the company began flying them to a facility in Victorville, without passengers, to free up space at the airports where they had been parked.
One runway at OIA is closed while officials conduct an inspection. No other flights were affected, said GOAA spokeswoman Carolyn Fennell.
Southwest and American Airlines are the two largest domestic owners of 737 Max 8 and 9 aircraft, and are among five airlines that were flying the planes out of Orlando International Airport prior to their grounding, along with WestJet, Air Canada and Gol.
dharris@orlandosentinel.com, 407-420-5471 or @DavidHarrisOS
Certo possibile, ma lo vedrei più probabile se la Cina avesse un costruttore aeronautico in grado di competere con Boeing. Ma probabilmente mi sbaglio.