Dallas: obiettivo volo diretto per aumentare i flussi italiani
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Sicuramente si tratterà di persone italiane solo nel cognome che nella nostra lingua sanno dire solo "Grazi, ciao, bèla Italia, buona pizza, màma mia"...
Scusa, ma se hanno detto italiano...
Ah, ecco perchè non mi era del tutto nuovo.
bah non so gli altri, chi conosco è italianissimo, vive non distante da casa mia e andava nella stessa mia scuola
ovviamente inutile dire che lui conosce l'inglese francesce e spagnolo perfettamente, a differenza di candido che con il suo misero FCE first se la cava con l'inglese accento asiatico.....
A mio modesto avviso, la rotta intercetterebbe tutti i pax interessati al business dell'Oil & Gas negli USA, "basato" in maggioranza in Texas....ricordiamoci che la GE + importante al di fuori degli USA è la GE Oil & Gas, basata a Firenze...e che l'headquarter negli USA è a Houston....io per andare in Texas uso LH, destinazione Houston...dove hanno utilizzato un A380....oltre al fatto che poi uso DFW per volare a Monterrey...è una zona dove oggi l'economia USA va molto forte, e coinvolge il Messico...io ci fosse un diretto, 3/4 voli all'anno li farei....
DFW Airport tweaking incentives to lure more international flights
Nonstop flights to Rome, Auckland and Johannesburg are on Dallas/Fort Worth Airport’s wish list.
To convince airlines to launch flights from these cities, the airport is revamping an incentive program it uses to attract carriers.
“What we’re trying to do is get [airlines] to fly larger and larger airplanes into our airport — I’m talking international now — and generally longer and longer distances,” John Ackerman, the airport’s executive vice president of global strategy and development, told the airport board’s finance committee Tuesday.
Instead of offering airlines one- to two-year incentive plans with a flat-dollar amount, the airport wants to offer incentives based on the flight’s distance and type of aircraft used on the route. It also won’t offer an incentive to a new carrier that is adding service to a destination already served by another carrier, Ackerman said.
The new plan would offer $1.50 per available seat mile and a 25 percent bonus if the destination is on the airport’s target list. For example, if an airline launched a 5,195-mile flight to Barcelona with a 226-seat Boeing 787, the airline would receive $2.28 million in incentives, Ackerman said.
The airport wants more service to Europe, where it only currently has four nonstop flights. Dublin, Munich, Helsinki and Berlin are on the airport’s target list. as well as Nagoya, Melbourne, Addis Ababa and Nairobi in other parts of the globe.
Starting in 2009, DFW added several new international destinations including flights to Sydney, Hong Kong and Beijing. However, in the past year, the airport lost KLM’s seasonal service to Amsterdam and Airberlin chose not to launch a previously announced route from Dusseldorf.
“While we are on a pretty good roll, we have to be more aggressive than an L.A. or a New York,” chief executive Sean Donohue said at the meeting. “It helps us more on the margin than it would at some other airports.”
During the airport’s 2015 fiscal year, DFW spent $12.2 million on incentives. They typically include reduced landing fees and marketing costs for the new service. Ackerman said the new program would not cost the airport any more than the previous plan.
The full board will decide on Thursday whether to approve the proposed changes.
Andrea Ahles: 817-390-7631, @Sky_Talk
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/aviation/sky-talk-blog/article98896832.html#storylink=cpy
Nonstop flights to Rome, Auckland and Johannesburg are on Dallas/Fort Worth Airport’s wish list.
To convince airlines to launch flights from these cities, the airport is revamping an incentive program it uses to attract carriers.
“What we’re trying to do is get [airlines] to fly larger and larger airplanes into our airport — I’m talking international now — and generally longer and longer distances,” John Ackerman, the airport’s executive vice president of global strategy and development, told the airport board’s finance committee Tuesday.
Instead of offering airlines one- to two-year incentive plans with a flat-dollar amount, the airport wants to offer incentives based on the flight’s distance and type of aircraft used on the route. It also won’t offer an incentive to a new carrier that is adding service to a destination already served by another carrier, Ackerman said.
The new plan would offer $1.50 per available seat mile and a 25 percent bonus if the destination is on the airport’s target list. For example, if an airline launched a 5,195-mile flight to Barcelona with a 226-seat Boeing 787, the airline would receive $2.28 million in incentives, Ackerman said.
The airport wants more service to Europe, where it only currently has four nonstop flights. Dublin, Munich, Helsinki and Berlin are on the airport’s target list. as well as Nagoya, Melbourne, Addis Ababa and Nairobi in other parts of the globe.
Starting in 2009, DFW added several new international destinations including flights to Sydney, Hong Kong and Beijing. However, in the past year, the airport lost KLM’s seasonal service to Amsterdam and Airberlin chose not to launch a previously announced route from Dusseldorf.
“While we are on a pretty good roll, we have to be more aggressive than an L.A. or a New York,” chief executive Sean Donohue said at the meeting. “It helps us more on the margin than it would at some other airports.”
During the airport’s 2015 fiscal year, DFW spent $12.2 million on incentives. They typically include reduced landing fees and marketing costs for the new service. Ackerman said the new program would not cost the airport any more than the previous plan.
The full board will decide on Thursday whether to approve the proposed changes.
Andrea Ahles: 817-390-7631, @Sky_Talk
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/aviation/sky-talk-blog/article98896832.html#storylink=cpy
So che la destinazione non é nei piani di AZ, ma dal 2017 riprendono in mano la gestione delle attività cargo.
Quanto tira il cargo su quella rotta? Sarebbe pensabile che la somma di incentivi più ricavi del trasporto merci porti almeno in pareggio la rotta (intendo con la flotta attuale, non con un full cargo dedicato)? la proposta di DFW impone un numero minimo di frequenze settimanali?
Quanto tira il cargo su quella rotta? Sarebbe pensabile che la somma di incentivi più ricavi del trasporto merci porti almeno in pareggio la rotta (intendo con la flotta attuale, non con un full cargo dedicato)? la proposta di DFW impone un numero minimo di frequenze settimanali?
DFW è casa e terra di AA, sinceramente vedo difficile per AZ così come anche per altri vettori più robusti e blasonati operare da lì.
KLM, che pure ha un HUB ben più importante, ha chiuso dopo qualche stagione estiva operata (dal 2012 al 2015 mi pare).
AirBerlin aveva previsto il lancio del DUS-DFW quest'estate e non è partito.
Al max credo sarà possibile uno stagionale di AA in Italia, se proprio.
KLM, che pure ha un HUB ben più importante, ha chiuso dopo qualche stagione estiva operata (dal 2012 al 2015 mi pare).
AirBerlin aveva previsto il lancio del DUS-DFW quest'estate e non è partito.
Al max credo sarà possibile uno stagionale di AA in Italia, se proprio.
Già il fatto che diano dei bei soldi testimonia che una rotta tra DFW e l'Italia difficilmente si reggerebbe in piedi da sola.
beh i "soldi" (o meglio incentivi marketing, sconti etc) non sono specificatamente per l'Italia, ma in generale per chiunque apra voli con determinate caratteristiche.
Pare proprio vogliano modificare il meccanismo di assegnazione di tali incentivi in modo che diano risultati maggiori.
Anche gli olandesi hanno operato beneficiando di ciò, eppure dopo qualche summer season hanno chiuso (hanno persino aperto Salt Lake City al suo posto quest'estate, ben più piccola anche se più funzionale all'alleanza con DL).
Qui il comunicato alla suo ripristino nella S12 (poi operato S13, S14, S15)
http://news.klm.com/klm-heropent-rechtstreekse-route-amsterdam-a-dallas-fort-worth-en
Però si era stata operata in precedenza da KLM, era stata aperta nel marzo 2008 e forse rimasta per un paio d'anni.
http://blogs.star-telegram.com/sky_talk/2009/11/fly-to-amsterdam-from-dfw-lately.html
Interessante questo articolo circa il "decollo abortito" di Air Berlin da Dusseldorf per la S16
airberlin cancels impending DFW flight due to poor advance bookings
German carrier airberlin has shelved its plans to launch new service to DFW airport in May 2016 following a lower-than-forecasted response from the local market. Airberlin had announced in November 2015 that it would launch its DFW service as part of a broader international expansion program to North America in Summer 2016, which included new service to Boston, San Francisco and Havana. The service was intended to operate to its Dusseldorf hub four times per week on an Airbus A330-200 aircraft.
This is the second blow that has been dealt to DFW in recent weeks, following KLM's announcement that it would not resume its summer-seasonal service to Amsterdam in May 2016. Both KLM and Airberlin were scheduled to launch services between DFW and Amsterdam and DFW and Dusseldorf, respectively, the same week. It is unfortunate that KLM likely decided to cancel the resumption of its DFW route due to airberlin, but now neither carrier will be operating to North Texas next summer. This will effectively leave DFW with nonstop service to four European markets: London, Frankfurt, Paris and Madrid, the lowest number of points offered from DFW since 2009.
Schedule of DFW - Europe flights for S16
e qui un po' la storia dei voli europei da DFW
Europe is one area where DFW has failed to achieve significant growth
DFW airport has attracted service from numerous foreign carriers and growth its international reach in North Asia, mainland China, Oceania, the Middle East and Latin America. Europe, however, is one area where it has failed to achieve salient growth due to the Eurozone crisis, the growth of the Middle East carriers (who compete for similar fifth-freedom traffic as European airlines) and a relatively small market size for DFW-Europe in general. Beyond Tier-A markets such as London, Frankfurt and Paris, the local traffic volumes drop off significantly for other markets, such as Amsterdam, Brussels, Rome, Barcelona, Berlin, Dusseldorf, Manchester, Munich and Milan.
Madrid is one of the few markets that DFW is capable of supporting owing to OneWorld connections on both sides, as well as a transatlantic Joint Venture between IAG, parent company of Iberia, and American Airlines. Madrid is Iberia's home base and largest hub, and far more powerful than airberlin at Dusseldorf. Airberlin has also struggled financially over the past five years and has undergone several restructuring programs with a consistent track record of replacing CEOs every 18 months. Though airberlin has a good control on keeping a low-cost base, revenue mixes have been a challenge for the carrier. In a market like DFW, which relies heavily on transit traffic, and does not have the same tourism draw that other alpha US cities have, such as Boston, Miami, Chicago and San Francisco, this becomes problematic.
Airberlin also has a limited connecting market beyond Dusseldorf that would provide incremental benefit to DFW, aside from what is already supported by British Airways and Lufthansa. Airberlin also has a messy battle ongoing with the German court over the future of its codeshare agreement with Abu Dhabi-based Etihad, and continued frustrations over the delayed opening of Berlin Brandenburg airport (BBI) where it intends to open its largest base. Overall, it is a carrier that does not have many ducks in a row.
It would be prudent for DFW airport officials to court Aer Lingus for 2017
Even though the loss of two foreign carriers is never easy, it is necessary for foreign carriers to adjust capacity into DFW in order to support the appropriate level of supply with demand. The exit of KLM and airberlin, along with the capacity down-gauge of Emirates from an Airbus A380 to 777-300ER, will help stabilize the market.
While DFW airport intends to shift its focus from growth to retention, now that it still has a nice portfolio of foreign carriers and service to pride itself upon, it should consider pursuing Aer Lingus as a suitable carrier to round out its European profile. The Irish carrier, which has been acquired by IAG, intends to integrate itself into the Joint Venture alliance with American and British Airways + Iberia. The Dublin hub will complement IAG's other large bases at London Heathrow and Madrid, and for DFW, the windows opened to Latin America are tremendous. DFW would fill a critical hole for Irish traffic destined for Mexico, Central and South America, as well as reach many markets in the US South, Southwest and South Central regions.
Dublin also is home to numerous companies with heavy technical presence in Ireland, such as Amazon, Apple, Cisco, Dell, Dropbox, E-bay, Facebook, IBM, Intel, Logitech, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Oracle, Paypal, Salesforce, Yahoo, TATA, SAP and Yahoo. This has helped Aer Lingus grow its North American presence in recent years, and the carrier expects to receive new aircraft deliveries in 2018 with the Airbus A350-800 XWB.
Airberlin is wisely chasing yields instead of ASMs
Airberlin is making a tough but sound call by abandoning its DFW route in hopes of deriving stronger yields on some of its other markets that have higher expected demand and fewer competitors. The reality is that even with a heavy OneWorld presence, DFW does not fit into the profile of airberlin. Then again, airberlin struggles almost on a daily basis in defining what its profile consists of to begin with. Perhaps that would be a better place for it to start rather than chasing market share in regions where yields would be weak.
http://upgrd.com/aerospace/airberlin-cancels-impending-dfw-flight-due-to-poor-advance-bookings.html
airberlin cancels impending DFW flight due to poor advance bookings
German carrier airberlin has shelved its plans to launch new service to DFW airport in May 2016 following a lower-than-forecasted response from the local market. Airberlin had announced in November 2015 that it would launch its DFW service as part of a broader international expansion program to North America in Summer 2016, which included new service to Boston, San Francisco and Havana. The service was intended to operate to its Dusseldorf hub four times per week on an Airbus A330-200 aircraft.
This is the second blow that has been dealt to DFW in recent weeks, following KLM's announcement that it would not resume its summer-seasonal service to Amsterdam in May 2016. Both KLM and Airberlin were scheduled to launch services between DFW and Amsterdam and DFW and Dusseldorf, respectively, the same week. It is unfortunate that KLM likely decided to cancel the resumption of its DFW route due to airberlin, but now neither carrier will be operating to North Texas next summer. This will effectively leave DFW with nonstop service to four European markets: London, Frankfurt, Paris and Madrid, the lowest number of points offered from DFW since 2009.
Schedule of DFW - Europe flights for S16
e qui un po' la storia dei voli europei da DFW
Europe is one area where DFW has failed to achieve significant growth
DFW airport has attracted service from numerous foreign carriers and growth its international reach in North Asia, mainland China, Oceania, the Middle East and Latin America. Europe, however, is one area where it has failed to achieve salient growth due to the Eurozone crisis, the growth of the Middle East carriers (who compete for similar fifth-freedom traffic as European airlines) and a relatively small market size for DFW-Europe in general. Beyond Tier-A markets such as London, Frankfurt and Paris, the local traffic volumes drop off significantly for other markets, such as Amsterdam, Brussels, Rome, Barcelona, Berlin, Dusseldorf, Manchester, Munich and Milan.
Madrid is one of the few markets that DFW is capable of supporting owing to OneWorld connections on both sides, as well as a transatlantic Joint Venture between IAG, parent company of Iberia, and American Airlines. Madrid is Iberia's home base and largest hub, and far more powerful than airberlin at Dusseldorf. Airberlin has also struggled financially over the past five years and has undergone several restructuring programs with a consistent track record of replacing CEOs every 18 months. Though airberlin has a good control on keeping a low-cost base, revenue mixes have been a challenge for the carrier. In a market like DFW, which relies heavily on transit traffic, and does not have the same tourism draw that other alpha US cities have, such as Boston, Miami, Chicago and San Francisco, this becomes problematic.
Airberlin also has a limited connecting market beyond Dusseldorf that would provide incremental benefit to DFW, aside from what is already supported by British Airways and Lufthansa. Airberlin also has a messy battle ongoing with the German court over the future of its codeshare agreement with Abu Dhabi-based Etihad, and continued frustrations over the delayed opening of Berlin Brandenburg airport (BBI) where it intends to open its largest base. Overall, it is a carrier that does not have many ducks in a row.
It would be prudent for DFW airport officials to court Aer Lingus for 2017
Even though the loss of two foreign carriers is never easy, it is necessary for foreign carriers to adjust capacity into DFW in order to support the appropriate level of supply with demand. The exit of KLM and airberlin, along with the capacity down-gauge of Emirates from an Airbus A380 to 777-300ER, will help stabilize the market.
While DFW airport intends to shift its focus from growth to retention, now that it still has a nice portfolio of foreign carriers and service to pride itself upon, it should consider pursuing Aer Lingus as a suitable carrier to round out its European profile. The Irish carrier, which has been acquired by IAG, intends to integrate itself into the Joint Venture alliance with American and British Airways + Iberia. The Dublin hub will complement IAG's other large bases at London Heathrow and Madrid, and for DFW, the windows opened to Latin America are tremendous. DFW would fill a critical hole for Irish traffic destined for Mexico, Central and South America, as well as reach many markets in the US South, Southwest and South Central regions.
Dublin also is home to numerous companies with heavy technical presence in Ireland, such as Amazon, Apple, Cisco, Dell, Dropbox, E-bay, Facebook, IBM, Intel, Logitech, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Oracle, Paypal, Salesforce, Yahoo, TATA, SAP and Yahoo. This has helped Aer Lingus grow its North American presence in recent years, and the carrier expects to receive new aircraft deliveries in 2018 with the Airbus A350-800 XWB.
Airberlin is wisely chasing yields instead of ASMs
Airberlin is making a tough but sound call by abandoning its DFW route in hopes of deriving stronger yields on some of its other markets that have higher expected demand and fewer competitors. The reality is that even with a heavy OneWorld presence, DFW does not fit into the profile of airberlin. Then again, airberlin struggles almost on a daily basis in defining what its profile consists of to begin with. Perhaps that would be a better place for it to start rather than chasing market share in regions where yields would be weak.
http://upgrd.com/aerospace/airberlin-cancels-impending-dfw-flight-due-to-poor-advance-bookings.html