Qantas, Emirates seal 'extensive' alliance


E questi sono i risultati di VA. Per quanto siano negativi, sono comunque molto migliori di quelli di QF.

Il grosso delle perdite di QF, paradossalmente, deriva dal lungo raggio e dalle lunghissime rotazioni delle macchine, necessarie per avere uno schedulato comodo sia in incoming che in outcoming.
Da questo punto di vista QF e VA sono solo lontanamente paragonabili, con la prima in netta dominanza sia per flotta (45 macchine meno qualche 332 usato sul domestico contro appena 13), sia per destinazioni.
Il domestico va sostanzialmente bene, sia per revenue che per loadfactor (stando alla stampa specializzata) e andrebbe ancor meglio se Joyce lasciasse cadere la questione del 65% di share sul domestico, che con una VA sempre più capillare, sta portando ad una picchiata degli yield medi, prima sostanzialmente molto buoni, per entrambe.
 
Sono d'accordo. Aggiungerei che QF soffre anche di quel "sovrappeso" di personale/politica/sindacato tipico delle compagnie di bandiera.
Sovrappeso che la nuova VA non ha.
 
Emirates Not Interested In Qantas Investment

Emirates is not interested in investing in the international operations of Qantas, according to the Dubai-based carrier's chief commercial officer.
In the biggest restructuring since Qantas was privatised two decades ago, the airline is hiving off its international arm from its domestic business.
The move will allow a foreign airline to take up to a 49 percent stake - up from the previous 35 percent limit - and analysts had suggested that alliance partner Emirates could be interested.

But Emirates' CCO Thierry Antinori said that doesn't fit with the airline's strategy.
"We buy planes and invest in products; we do not buy shares," he told Reuters news agency.

Under its partnership with Qantas, through which the companies share some revenue, Qantas has moved its European operations base from Singapore to Dubai and Emirates is letting Qantas share its new terminal, which was for the exclusive use of its Airbus A380.

Emirates, though, has shied away from traditional airline alliances oneworld, Star Alliance and Sky Team, saying it prefers to go it alone.
The rapid expansion of Gulf carriers such as Emirates, Qatar and Etihad has posed a particular problem for European legacy airlines. Lufthansa and Air France are both planning to expand their low-cost units to respond to competition from Gulf carriers and budget rivals.

Antinori, a former Lufthansa manager, said this kind of thinking was the wrong path to take.
"If you, as an airline, and there are unfortunately a lot of examples of this in Europe, begin to calibrate your strategy as 'what can I do against this airline or this airline', you will fail," he said.

SECURITY RISKS

Antinori also said that recent suspensions of routes to places such as Arbil and Tripoli because of fighting were a problem but that the company had been able to redeploy planes on routes such as to Casablanca and Budapest. Emirates has also suspended flights to Guinea because of the Ebola virus.

"It's not good news, but we are able to redeploy the aircraft and to limit the damage," he said of the suspensions.
In particular, the suspension of flights to Arbil, northern Iraq, is damaging to its cargo operations, Antinori said.
Load factors are still running above last year's levels, he said when asked whether the route changes were having an impact on how full its planes were.

He also said Emirates will remain patient as it waits for Germany to rework the air traffic agreement that allows Emirates to fly to only to four airports in the country.

The airline is keen to fly to Berlin and Stuttgart but says it does not want to give up its services to Hamburg, Frankfurt, Munich and Dusseldorf. It had previously lobbied hard for the right to fly to more airports.
"One day it will come,"
Antinori said.

(Reuters)

 
QF ha deciso di cancellare la tratta DXB-LHR in Ottobre e Novembre per alcune rotazioni della Kangaroo Route. I viaggiatori che avrebbero dovuto utilizzare la tratta soppressa, saranno riprotetti (indovinate un po') sui voli EK.
Visti il continuo calo vertiginoso del traffico diretto LHR-Australia, credo non sia azzardato supporre che questo evento possa segnare l'inizio della ritirata di QF da LHR e quindi dall'Europa.
Oltre all'articolo, allego un commento interessante.

Qantas cancels some Dubai to London flights

Published: 10/09/2014

Weak demand in October and November is the reason given by Qantas for its decision to cancel five round-trip services between Dubai and London Heathrow.
The airline currently operates two daily A380 flights on the route, one of which originates in Sydney and the other in Melbourne.
It means that on five days in October and November there will be just a single A380 flight operated by Qantas between the Dubai and LHR.
Qantas passengers from either Sydney or Melbourne (at the time of writing it is not sure which route will be affected and on which date) will find that their A380 service will terminate in Dubai.
From there, they will be switched to a regular Emirates scheduled A380 which will continue to London.
The dates in question, departing Dubai, are October 14 and 17 and November 12, 15 and 20.
But Qantas' rearrangement of its London schedules takes away its through-plane selling point. It means that, on the dates in question, Qantas in effect becomes an indirect carrier where passengers and their bags are switched from one flight to another.
qantas.com

Alex McWhirter

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superchris - 10/09/2014 11:18
Lets be honest here, QF's switch of allegiance from BA to EK has been an unmitigated disaster. Ive taken the flight the Dubai a number of times and great though the service is, its always half empty and the plane is full of Aussies moaning either about the stop, the time or the halal food! Its only a matter of time they pull off London altogether and rely on scraps thrown to them from Emirates through Dubai.

http://www.businesstraveller.com/news/100848/qantas-cancels-some-dubai-to-london-flights
 
Emirates to extend Qantas partnership beyond 2018

London: Emirates will seek to extend the historic partnership it launched with Australia’s national airline, Qantas, in 2013 beyond the initial five year period, airline President Tim Clark said in an interview in London on Friday.

“I see no reason why we won’t continue with the arrangement,” Clark told Gulf News.

Two years ago, Emirates and Qantas entered into a revenue sharing partnership that saw the Australian carrier end a 17-year relationship with British Airways and move its London-bound stop over from Singapore to Dubai.

“It’s a good story, we’re very pleased with it,” Clark said.

Under the agreement, Emirates gains access to around 50 points in Australia through Qantas’ domestic network. In return, Qantas connects onto Emirates flights to more than 70 destinations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

“It’s doing really well at the moment. We’re filling our aeroplanes up, they’re filling our [aeroplanes and] we’re putting a lot on their domestic network,” Clark said.

The two airlines can also coordinate maintenance and crew training, combine purchasing power when buying goods including fuel and have reciprocal frequent flyer programmes, meaning passengers can redeem points with either carrier, as part of the partnership.

Any extension to partnership is likely to come under the scrutiny of Australia’s competition watchdog, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC). In 2013, the ACCC granted conditional approval to partnership that included permitting the deal for five years, not the ten years Emirates and Qantas were seeking.

The ACCC could not be reached for comment.

But the partnership has received bi-partisan support from both sides of Australian politics. Last week, on a visit to the UAE, Australia’s Trade Minister, Andrew Robb from the Liberal Party, hailed the tie-up between the two airlines. In 2013, then-Transport Minister, Anthony Albanese from the Labor Party, drafted a submission to the ACCC in favour of the deal.

Meanwhile, Clark believes that any extension will be a simple formality.

“As long as [Qantas Chief Executive] Alan Joyce is there and I’m here at Emirates and the Emirates team is working closely together with Qantas [then] it will just be a continuation,” he said.

Qantas could not be reached for comment; however, Joyce has previously spoken in favour of the partnership.

Australian seats

Clark said the partnership “is really good for both companies’ and believes there is demand to add more capacity on the Dubai-Australia route.

“Getting onto any of our Australian aircraft, you’ve got to be heroic to get a seat because we just don’t seem to have any [empty seats]. We need more [Airbus] A380s going to Australia,” he said after announcing a $9.2 billion (Dh33.7 billion) Rolls-Royce engine order for 50 A380s.

Emirates operate 93 flights a week to Australia, Clark said. Qantas operates two daily flights to Dubai, one each from Melbourne and Sydney, and two daily flights from Dubai to Australia.

Emirates model not changing


Following the launch of the Emirates-Qantas tie-up there was speculation that Emirates would take a minority stake in the Australian carrier. On a number of occasions, including after Qantas successfully lobbied the Australian government to increase the cap of investment by a foreign airline to a 49 per cent stake; Emirates said it was not interested.

On Monday, when asked that after 30 years of organic growth whether the airline would adapt its business model, Clark said there is “plenty more to do on the same business model”.

“I don’t think we have to go into a low cost operation or an M&A [mergers and acquisition] programme,” he said.

http://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/emirates-to-extend-qantas-partnership-beyond-2018-1.1494163
 
Emirates, Qantas mapping out next stage of partnership
Emirates seeks out secondary Australian cities, Qantas eyes European destinations with 787s via Dubai

Published: 16:35 October 5, 2015 Gulf News
By Alexander Cornwell, Staff Reporter

Dubai: The expansion of the Emirates-Qantas partnership over the next five years includes Emirates looking at launching flights to secondary Australian cities and Qantas considering flying to continental Europe via Dubai, using Boeing 787s.

Emirates and Qantas started the historic revenue partnership in 2013 with the Australian carrier dropping a 17-year relationship with British Airways to move its London-bound hub from Singapore, to Dubai.

Emirates flies to Australia’s four major hubs: Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth along with Adelaide, and Qantas flies from Sydney and Melbourne to London via Dubai.

Emirates airline President Tim Clark told reporters in Dubai on Monday that he met with Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce last week and the two airlines agreed to “map the way forward over the next three [to] five years.”

“Sydney, Melbourne and Perth are going to be primary areas,” Clark said.

Asked if Emirates could fly to secondary cities in Australia, Clark said: “Darwin, Cairns, Broome, Alice Springs. Look, there are lots [of possibilities].”

Darwin, in the northern centre of Australia, and Cairns, in the north east of the country along the coast, are already connected with regular direct flights into Asia, meaning there is appetite for international services.

Flights to secondary Australian cities would also open up a new feeder catchment of inbound international passengers for Qantas’ domestic network, which is where the Australian carrier makes the bulk of its money.

Clark said he is bullish on expanding into Australia and the Qantas partnership despite the Australian dollar having fallen around 13 per cent against the United States dollar so far this year,

“Growth in our particular market is unabated, [and] as I said, we will look at everything,” Clark said.

The expansion of the Emirates-Qantas partnership will also include the Australian carrier reviewing the number of destinations it serves via Dubai.

Clark said, part of the original agreement includes Qantas to consider resuming flights to European cities like Frankfurt, Paris and Rome once it receives its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners. In August 2015, Qantas confirmed purchases of eight 787-9s, which will be delivered by the end of the airline’s 2019 financial year. It has options and purchase rights for 45 more.

In June, Joyce told reporters there is potential to launch additional services via Dubai once the 787-9s come into service. Both Clark and Joyce said this year they will extend the partnership beyond its initial five years, that ends in 2018

http://gulfnews.com/business/aviati...pping-out-next-stage-of-partnership-1.1595486
 
Qantas Boeing 787s could fly from Dubai to European cities

Qantas could resume flights to cities such as Frankfurt, Rome and Paris with its fleet of Boeing 787-9 aircraft while using Dubai as a Dreamliner springboard between Australia and Europe.
As part of an expanded alliance between Qantas and Emirates, Qantas CEO Alan Joyce met with Emirates President Tim Clark last week to “map the way forward over the next three [to] five years”, Gulf News reports.
While Qantas ceased flying from Sydney to Frankfurt in 2013 and wound up its codeshare partnerships with Cathay Pacific to Rome and with Air France to Paris, Australian Business Traveller understands the current agreement with Emirates allows for the Roo’s return to continental Europe using Boeing 787-9 aircraft.

After years of delays and deliberation, Qantas firmed up its order for eight of the long-range Boeing 787-9s with delivery from 2017, in addition to purchase rights and options for 45 more: paving the way for a number of new routes while also strengthening existing ones.
Joyce has also played up Perth as a launching pad for non-stop flights into Europe – with the airline successfully running a one-off, direct Perth-Istanbul service earlier this year – but noted that “a seamless domestic to International transfer was essential for the hub operation”.
“That will become a reality early in the next decade when Qantas’s domestic operations move to the international side of the airport” reported The West Australian.
Meanwhile, Emirates is bullish on expanding its own flights between Australia and Dubai with Clark sharing that “Sydney, Melbourne and Perth are going to be primary areas,” but that Darwin, Cairns, Broome and even Alice Springs were possibilities for new routes from Dubai.
“Growth in our particular market is unabated – as I said, we will look at everything,” Clark added.
Neither Broome nor Alice Springs are currently home to international flights, although Darwin and Cairns are already connected to Asia with airlines such as Cathay Pacific, Malaysia Airlines, China Eastern and China Southern serving one port or the other.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-boeing-787s-could-fly-from-dubai-to-european-cities
 
Mi sfugge il concetto di partnership se vuoi usare i tuoi aerei per fare esattamente quello che fanno già adesso perfettamente gli aerei del tuo partner EK, ovvero volare da città europee verso Dubai sulle stesse identiche rotte.
 
In più per un certo numero di stati l'utilizzo di metallo Qantas non permette di aggirare i bilaterali. Ad esempio la Francia prevede lo stop in uno stato del sud est asiatico, e non a Dubai, nel caso di un collegamento con l'Australia
 
In più per un certo numero di stati l'utilizzo di metallo Qantas non permette di aggirare i bilaterali. Ad esempio la Francia prevede lo stop in uno stato del sud est asiatico, e non a Dubai, nel caso di un collegamento con l'Australia

Molto interessante. Non conoscevo questo tipo di limitazioni "ad area geografica"
 
Ritiro su questo thread che credo sia abbastanza appropriato. Ecco la nuova safety demo di Qantas, decisamente "home made". Bellissima, mi ha lasciato senza parole soprattutto la scena finale molto semplice e allo stesso tempo d'impatto. Brava Qantas!

 
Ritiro su questo thread che credo sia abbastanza appropriato. Ecco la nuova safety demo di Qantas, decisamente "home made". Bellissima, mi ha lasciato senza parole soprattutto la scena finale molto semplice e allo stesso tempo d'impatto. Brava Qantas!


Di qualità assolutamente superiore. Forse la migliore abbia mai visto.
 
Credo che insieme a Air New Zealand siano le migliori compagnie aeree a livello di safety marketing (aiutate anche da dei paesi che sono da per se mozzafiato).