Qantas, Emirates seal 'extensive' alliance


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Qantas has inked an alliance agreement with Middle Eastern rival Emirates aimed at stemming the Australian airline's losses on the highly competitive route between Australia and Europe.

After months of negotiations and endless speculation, Qantas today unveiled the terms of a 10-year alliance with Emirates on routes to Europe via Dubai, due to begin next

The two carriers plan "a new global aviation partnership", promising customers "a seamless international and Australian network, exclusive frequent flyer benefits and world‐class travel experiences."

"This is the most significant partnership the Qantas Group has ever formed with another airline, moving past the traditional alliance model to a new level,’’ said Qantas chief executive, Alan Joyce, in a statement. ‘‘It will deliver benefits to all parts of the group.

As part of the deal, Qantas will shift its hub for European flights from Singapore to Dubai and enter "an extensive commercial relationship" with Emirates.

Neither airline will hold shares in the other, but instead will focus on building an "integrated network", including coordinated pricing, sales and scheduling, the carriers said in a statement.

The arrangement, which requires approval from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), is expected to start in April next year.

Qantas shares got an early lift on the confirmation of the tie-up, rising as much as 6 cents, or 5.3 per cent, to $1.185.

Final talks

The Emirates chief executive, Tim Clark, arrived in Sydney yesterday for the final negotiations with his counterpart, Qantas's Mr Joyce.

The deal is heralded as a significant breakthrough for Qantas, which has been struggling to revive the fortunes of its international flying operations.

‘‘Together with Emirates, Qantas will provide a unique one-stop hub service, as well as deeply integrated frequent flyer and customer benefits,’’ Mr Joyce said.

Under the deal, Qantas will fly daily Airbus A380 services from both Sydney and Melbourne to London via Dubai. Between the two airlines there will be 98 weekly services between Australia and Dubai.

BA agreement ends

However, the pact will see the demise of Qantas's longstanding revenue-sharing agreement with British Airways on the so-called kangaroo route between Australia and Britain.

Qantas will terminate its agreement with BA from March 2013 as a result of the Emirates deal. The British Airways agreement began in 1995.

‘‘Over the past 17 years, the joint business with British Airways has been central to the Qantas network,’’ Mr Joyce said.‘‘However, global operating conditions have changed and partnership with Emirates is the right strategy for Qantas.’’

Qantas says it will not have to leave the Oneworld alliance of carriers. The changes, though, will also see Qantas ditch its codesharing agreements with Cathay Pacific and Air France.

Deal value

Macquarie Equities's transport analyst, Russell Shaw, has estimated the value to Qantas of a code-share alliance with Emirates at as much as $90 million a year in pre-tax earnings.

He described a tie-up with Emirates as the "missing piece in the earnings bridge" for Qantas in helping to turn around its premium international operations, which lost $450 million in the year to June.

Despite the deal with Emirates, Mr Shaw said Qantas still faced challenges in the medium term in improving its network in Asia to help it to compete against Cathay Pacific and Singapore Airlines.

Qantas also faces a short-term hit to its earnings in the domestic market in the current financial year as it seeks to repel the challenge of Virgin Australia. The latter is seeking to grab a bigger share of the lucrative corporate travel, which Qantas has dominated since Ansett's collapse in 2001.

It is not the first time Qantas has courted a relationship with the Middle Eastern airline, which is renowned for its desire to go it alone. Qantas did form a code-share agreement with Emirates in the 1990s but abandoned it a short time later.
 
Mossa finale di un progetto ormai in ballo da qualche mese, che comunque non smette di lasciarmi un po' smarrito, soprattutto alla luce dei recenti contatti tra QR e BA.
Dopo la firma di questi accordi, rumour danno già per certo l'abbandono di FRA; LHR rimane dunque l'unico caposaldo in Europa, anche se non più con scalo a SIN (o HKG e BKK come qualche tempo fa), ma ora instradato via DXB.
 
Questo e' il requiem per la Kangaroo Route. Del resto temo che sia estremamente difficile fare profitti su una rotta cosi' competitiva avendo due 380 e un 747 parcheggiati rispettivamente a LHR e FRA per 16 ore ogni giorno.
Senza i voli QF da SIN in codeshare BA sicuramente cancellera' il suo daily LHR-SIN-SYD.
Il tempismo poi mi sembra perfetto, stanno rinnovando completamente le lounges QF/BA a Singapore...
Detto cio' il codeshare fa senso, i pax europei potranno molto piu' rapidamente raggiungere SYD e MEL con un solo scalo a DXB evitando oscene connessioni a LHR con cambio terminal seguite da un volo di 24 ore e un ulteriore inutile scalo a SIN.
Bisogna capire cosa succede ai pax Y+ di Qantas che arrivati a Dubai dovranno proseguire su EK in Y...

l'hub quantas di SIN quanti voli ha al momento?

SYD-SIN-LHR DAILY 380
MEL-SIN-LHR DAILY 380
SYD-SIN-FRA DAILY 744
PER-SIN 2xDAILY 330
BNE-SIN DAILY 744
ADL-SIN 3xw 330

piu' altri voli operati da JetStar
 
Sydney, 06 September 2012

THE WORLD’S LEADING AIRLINE PARTNERSHIP

ALAN JOYCE, QANTAS GROUP CEO
SYDNEY, 6 SEPTEMBER 2012

Good morning everyone and a warm welcome.
A special welcome to Tim Clark, President of Emirates Airline.
Today we mark a new era for Qantas, for Australian aviation, and for global
aviation.

This morning Tim and I signed a Commercial Agreement to form the world’s
leading airline partnership between Qantas and Emirates.

AN INTEGRATED PARTNERSHIP
We have agreed to join forces to give our customers the most comprehensive
premium travel experience on the planet.

We will be poised to deliver the best in networks, frequencies, lounges, loyalty
programs and customer experience.

There will be no equity investment on either side.
This is a partnership of independent peers, based on shared standards and
aspirations.

Pending approval by the regulatory bodies, from April next year Qantas will
transfer its hub for European flights from Singapore to Dubai.

Our daily Airbus A380 services to London from Melbourne and Sydney will transit
via Dubai’s Terminal 3, the world’s only purpose-built A380 terminal.

Qantas and Emirates will be the only airlines in the Terminal, so we’ll have a big
Qantas presence and access to superb lounges and facilities for Qantas
customers.

A NEW ERA PARTNERSHIP
This agreement represents a step-change for the aviation industry.
It is far bigger than a codeshare. Or even a joint services agreement.
This is the biggest arrangement Qantas has ever entered into with another
airline.

A ten year partnership, which will be good for all parts of the Qantas Group.
Subject to regulatory approval, it will include integrated network collaboration
with coordinated pricing, sales and scheduling and a benefit-sharing model.

This will deliver significant benefits to our business.

GREAT FOR CUSTOMERS
From April next year we enter a new era.
We will commence flying with 14 daily Qantas-operated or coded Boeing 777
and A380 flights from Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth and Sydney to
Dubai, with its 24 hour hub and connection to four continents.

It will mean just one stop to 33 European destinations, seven of them serviced all
the way by A380s, including Paris and Rome as well as London.

Regional Australians are used to multi-stop journeys to Europe and home again.
From April next year, for regional travellers it’s just two stops to the heart of
Europe.

Check in at Rockhampton and collect your bags in Rome. Port Macquarie to
Madrid. Even Longreach to Lisbon.

Eligible customers will be welcomed in Emirates lounges across Europe.
Our trans-Tasman customers will benefit through greater frequencies and the
potential for new routes.

Business and corporate customers will find that taking care of business is more
convenient with over 30 Middle East and North African destinations a short flight
from Dubai.

THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE
In our discussions Tim and I came up with a guiding principle for this partnership:
Treat each other’s customers as your own.

Our two airlines will, of course, retain their distinct style and identity, but we will
match key customer benefits.

Where there is a difference in customer service, we’ve agreed to make the
higher benefit our standard.

Our baggage policies will be the same, and we’ll operate from common terminals
in Sydney, Melbourne, Dubai and London.

FREQUENT FLYERS
Central to this partnership will be Qantas Frequent Flyer.
Together we will offer the world’s best loyalty proposition for Australian flyers.
The biggest benefit, of course, will be the vastly expanded opportunities for
Qantas Frequent Flyers to earn and redeem their points.

Qantas and Emirates will provide reciprocal access to tier status benefits which
includes end-to-end recognition of customers, lounge access, priority check-in
and boarding and more.

I think it’s going to give our 8.6 million Frequent Flyers big new incentives, which
should be great news for our partners like Optus, Woolworths and David Jones.

So when you purchase that Italian suit at David Jones, remember you are
earning points to wear it in Venice.

Or Barcelona. Or Milan.

WHY EMIRATES
A lot has been said about Qantas and aviation partnerships.
I’ve always made it clear we would not form any new partnership until we found
the partner that was absolutely right for us, our customers and our business.

Emirates is one of the world’s best airlines with an all wide-body fleet, an
amazing global network, and a wonderful reputation for quality.

Its extensive international coverage perfectly complements the strong Qantas
presence in North and South America, South Africa and Asia and our domestic,
regional and trans-Tasman network.

Respect and mutual confidence is essential for a partnership of this nature.
Tim Clark is an aviation visionary with a meticulous eye for detail, combined with
an understated management style.

He commands respect, and he has made this partnership possible.
Qantas alone can’t take passengers everywhere – but together Qantas and
Emirates can take Australians just about anywhere. With style.

THE BUSINESS BENEFITS
This is all about our customers.
But it is also about creating a sustainable future for Qantas International.
Last year I announced a four pillar plan to turn around that business.

GATEWAYS AND PARTNERSHIPS
One pillar was the use of partnerships to extend our reach.
Through our partnership with Emirates, Dubai will become the Qantas gateway
to Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.

Dubai will complement Dallas, the gateway to North America; Santiago for South
America; Johannesburg for Southern Africa; and Singapore/Hong Kong for Asia.

Emirates will complement our relationships with American Airlines, LAN, South
African Airways and China Eastern, as well as oneworld™.

Our relationship with British Airways is an important part of the Qantas story.
I have been in discussion with my colleague and friend CEO Willie Walsh, and
we have agreed that the time is right to wind up the Joint Services Agreement.

We both value the relationship very highly and our two airlines will continue to
work together.

GROWING WITH ASIA
Now to Asia.
We currently have an Asian flying schedule based on travelling via Asia to
Europe.

But our Australian business customers want better access to Asia, and so do we.
As you know, we have been looking to address this issue.

By moving our hub for European services to Dubai, we will be able to restructure
the Asian network.

Our Asian services will no longer be a subsidiary of the ‘Kangaroo Route’: they
will be dedicated to connecting Australians with our region, and Asian visitors to
Australia.

Qantas will increase dedicated capacity to Singapore, and re-time flights to
Singapore and Hong Kong to enable many more ‘same day’ connections across
Asia. Our partner Emirates also services South East Asian destinations from
Australia.

We are also looking at ways to refine our product and service offerings
specifically for the needs of business travellers.

This restructure will result in a significant improvement in the economics of our
Asian operations.

A STRONG, VIABLE BUSINESS
A key objective is to make Qantas International strong and viable, and bring it
back to profitability.

This partnership will help us do that, while building on our strengths in Qantas
Domestic, Qantas Frequent Flyer and Jetstar.

For the vast majority of our Qantas people it will be warmly welcomed because it
is all about creating a sustainable future for Qantas.

But there will be changes to our operations, and these will have an impact on
various roles.

Our Frankfurt services have been struggling for some time and withdrawal from
the route was inevitable.

This Emirates partnership will help us make an orderly withdrawal, and also
ensure we can continue to service our customers over the long term.
Along with changes to our schedule, there are likely to be changes to the aircraft
types we use in Asia.

We will be working through all these and other changes with our people, as with
all relevant stakeholders. However over the long term I see our partnership with
Emirates as a platform for growth.

BEST FOR GLOBAL TRAVELLERS
Finally what we are announcing today is a fantastic proposition for our global
travellers – literally opening up Europe, the Middle East and North Africa to
Qantas business and leisure flyers.

BENEFITS TO AUSTRALIA
And just as it opens up Europe to Australian travellers, it also offers the
opportunity to bring many more European visitors to Australia.

Qantas and Emirates will be working together to make the most of the array of
opportunities and it’s going to be good for Australia.

Let me conclude by thanking Tim and all of his hard working team.
I’d also like to thank all the Qantas people who have worked so hard to bring this
together.

It’s going to be fantastic for Qantas, Emirates, for Australian tourism and
business and for the Australian travelling public.

I’d now like to invite Tim to speak.

Issued by Qantas Corporate Communication (5442)
Email: qantasmedia@qantas.com.au

http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airlines/media-releases/sep-2012/5442/global/en

http://www.qantasandemirates.com/
 
[h=1]QANTAS – Emirates Outlines Strategic Partnership due April 2013[/h]by JL
Update at 0040GMT 06SEP12
QANTAS and Emirates on 06SEP12 announced a landmark 10-year strategic partnership agreement, which takes in effect from April 2013. Subject to regulatory approval (including interim authorisation to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)), planned partnership to cover the following:

*QANTAS terminates 17-year long joint-venture agreement with British Airways from March 2013
*QANTAS terminating Singapore as stopover point for European service
*QANTAS terminating service to Frankfurt
*Existing QANTAS service to London Heathrow (1 daily each from Sydney and Melbourne), will operate via Dubai, replacing Singapore stop. Therefore nicknamed “The Kangaroo Route” will be re-named to “The Falcon Route”
*QANTAS service to Hong Kong and Singapore will be re-timed, which will open up additional same-day connection option to rest of Asia
*QANTAS service to Dubai will operate at Terminal 3, becoming the only foreign carrier with access to Dubai T3
*Combined Emirates and QANTAS flights on Dubai – London Heathrow will be 7 daily, all using Airbus A380. On Australia – Dubai sector, combined service sees 98 weekly flights (14 daily)
*Alignment of Emirates and Qantas frequent flyer programs, giving customers expanded opportunities to earn and redeem points
*Emirates and QANTAS’ Trans-Tasman routes will be coordinated to provide greater flexibility of flight options
*QANTAS existing European codeshare service with AIRFRANCE and Cathay Pacific remains unaffected

http://airlineroute.net/2012/09/06/qfek/
 
Beh dal punto di vista di QF è un'alleanza di gran valore.

Ormai nell'ultimo decennio con la chiusura di Parigi e Roma e Francoforte da sempre in bilico era rimasto solo di fatto il presidio londinese.
Contando che prima volavano anche ad Atene, Amsterdam e altre nel vecchio continente.

Anche un'alleanza ristretta solo a CX (o eventualmente SQ) non avrebbe mai dato la capillarità in Europa che può offrire EK.
Adesso con uno scalo si raggiungerà praticamente tutta l'Europa, con due si può volare da città periferiche australiane o della nuova zelanda.
 
E' senz'altro un accordo storico. Lo si percepisce anche da fatti come la rinuncia da parte di QF al rapporto privilegiato di vecchia data con BA (alleato OW), dalla possibilità concessa agli australiani di usare il nuovissimo T3 di DXB (unica compagnia oltre ad EK), dalle modifiche che verranno fatte ai programmi FF per renderli compatibili.
E' appena il caso di aggiungere che le compagnie concorrenti nella Kangaroo Route, rischiano di prendere una sonora mazzata. Il duo EK-QF infatti offre un grado di connettività Europa-Australia che per capillarità, tempi di percorrenza e frequenze, rende ridicolo quello di ogni altro competitor, sia esso europeo, mediorientale o asiatico.
 
E' senz'altro un accordo storico. Lo si percepisce anche da fatti come la rinuncia da parte di QF al rapporto privilegiato di vecchia data con BA (alleato OW), dalla possibilità concessa agli australiani di usare il nuovissimo T3 di DXB (unica compagnia oltre ad EK), dalle modifiche che verranno fatte ai programmi FF per renderli compatibili.
E' appena il caso di aggiungere che le compagnie concorrenti nella Kangaroo Route, rischiano di prendere una sonora mazzata. Il duo EK-QF infatti offre un grado di connettività Europa-Australia che per capillarità, tempi di percorrenza e frequenze, rende ridicolo quello di ogni altro competitor, sia esso europeo, mediorientale o asiatico.

Beh momento, direi che e' piuttosto il contrario, con questa alleanza QF diventa competitiva, ma altre lo erano gia' da prima. SQ vola piu' o meno ovunque in Europa e serve tutta l'Australia, quindi con uno scalo a SIN puoi volare da Roma a Brisbane, cosi' come dall'anno prossimo con uno scalo a DXB usando il codeshare QF/EK.
Comunque in questa operazione QF e' il fratello minore, buona parte dei transiti continuera' ad essere EK-EK esattamente come avviene ora. Con tutta probabilita' QF spingera' EK ad abbandonare i voli tra OZ e Nuova Zelanda, mettendo un codeshare EK sul proprio metallo.
 
E' appena il caso di aggiungere che le compagnie concorrenti nella Kangaroo Route, rischiano di prendere una sonora mazzata. Il duo EK-QF infatti offre un grado di connettività Europa-Australia che per capillarità, tempi di percorrenza e frequenze, rende ridicolo quello di ogni altro competitor, sia esso europeo, mediorientale o asiatico.
E sì non c'è proprio partita.
Con 1 scalo si raggiungono le città principali europee con quelle principali nel down under.
Con 2 scali si raggiungono le città periferiche europee con le principali nel down under e vv (città principali europee con città periferiche nel down under)
Con 3 scali si raggiungono le città periferiche europee con le città periferiche nel down under.

Il tutto con una moltitudine di destinazioni, frequenze che andranno ancora a crescere negli anni.
SQ, CX etc certo non possono offrire lo stesso.
 
Beh momento, direi che e' piuttosto il contrario, con questa alleanza QF diventa competitiva, ma altre lo erano gia' da prima. SQ vola piu' o meno ovunque in Europa e serve tutta l'Australia, quindi con uno scalo a SIN puoi volare da Roma a Brisbane, cosi' come dall'anno prossimo con uno scalo a DXB.
Comunque in questa operazione QF e' il fratello minore, buona parte dei transiti continuera' ad essere EK-EK esattamente come avviene ora. Con tutta probabilita' QF spingera' EK ad abbandonare i voli tra OZ e Nuova Zelanda, mettendo un codeshare EK sul proprio metallo.

Beh oddio che SQ voli un pò dappertutto in Europa non è tanto vero.
E anche dove vola spesso le frequenze sono scarse o la destinazione la si raggiunge con scali intermedi (per esempio MAN fa scalo a MUC).
 
Beh oddio che SQ voli un pò dappertutto in Europa non è tanto vero.
E anche dove vola spesso le frequenze sono scarse o la destinazione la si raggiunge con scali intermedi (per esempio MAN fa scalo a MUC).

Si' certo ma SQ e' presente in tutti i mercati principali con frequenze plurigiornaliere (LHR, CDG, FRA, ZRH ecc...) dove gli yields tendenzialmente sono piu' alti che non altrove.
Basta vedere le tariffe che SQ pratica da LHR per l'Australia nelle classi premium, che sono le piu' alte di tutte, circa 1000 pounds piu' di BA o QF, e 2000 piu' di EK...
 
E' possibile che la portata di questo accordo possa portare addirittura QF fuori da OW?

Insomma non credo che CX e BA siano molto contente.
 
E' possibile che la portata di questo accordo possa portare addirittura QF fuori da OW?

Insomma non credo che CX e BA siano molto contente.

Per ora sembra di no, ma sono convinto del contrario. Per BA il valore aggiunto di QF e' nullo, specie se dovesse sparire il BA15/16, l'ultimo volo residuo sulla Kangaroo Route.
Bisogna vedere come si sviluppera' l'allineamento dei FFP di QF e EK, dubito fortemente che chi guadagna miglia con EK potra', tramite QF, spenderle su BA.
In Asia QF si concentrera' sui voli p2p, senza curarsi dei transiti per l'Europa, rendendosi poco attraente per CX.
 
Beh dal punto di vista di QF è un'alleanza di gran valore.

Ormai nell'ultimo decennio con la chiusura di Parigi e Roma e Francoforte da sempre in bilico era rimasto solo di fatto il presidio londinese.
Contando che prima volavano anche ad Atene, Amsterdam e altre nel vecchio continente.

Anche un'alleanza ristretta solo a CX (o eventualmente SQ) non avrebbe mai dato la capillarità in Europa che può offrire EK.
Adesso con uno scalo si raggiungerà praticamente tutta l'Europa, con due si può volare da città periferiche australiane o della nuova zelanda.

C'e' anche un altro fattore da considerare, e cioe' che i voli dall'Australia per l'Asia erano studiati in funzione dei transiti per l'Europa, creando situazioni abbastanza paradossali. Un esempio concreto: nonostante QF abbia tre voli al giorno da SYD a SIN, piu' un quarto in codeshare con BA, nessuno di questi arriva a Singapore in tempo per prendere una coincidenza per Bali, con il risultato che sono costretto a stare una notte a Singapore.
Ora QF ha le mani libere sui voli per l'Asia e puo' studiare gli orari che servono meglio il mercato. Unico problema, gli A330 che ha in dotazione hanno un prodotto business inferiore (lie-flat anziche' full flat) rispetto all'A380 e al 747.