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PIA to suspend flights to New York, Chicago, Spain, Germany: joint venture agreement signed with Turkish Airlines

IQBAL MIRZA

KARACHI (January 08, 2011) : The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) will suspend its flights to New York, Chicago, Spain, Netherlands, Germany and Italy on the implementation of joint venture commercial agreement (JVCA), signed with Turk Hava Yollari, Turkish Airlines (TK), at PIA head office here on December 29, 2010.

The agreement was signed by Captain Muhammad Aijaz Haroon, Managing Director of PIA, and Dr Temel Kotil, President and Chief Executive Officer of TK. According to details of the discussions between the two delegations and JVCA available here, TK President on the request of PIA Managing Director to first present Turkish Airlines proposal for enhancement of commercial co-operation between the two airlines, proposed that there should be seven weekly frequencies each from Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad to Istanbul and back.

TK suggested that this arrangement would be under a joint venture agreement on trunk routes that will allocate seat capacity and revenues of both parties under one pool arrangement where the earnings would be shared on the basis of seat capacity floated and prorated revenue on each airline's documents.

PIA was also offered by TK 20 percent commission on PIA sales beyond Istanbul sectors that overlap on the prorated fare on that sector, excluding fuel surcharge. PIA Managing Director appreciated TK efforts to increase frequencies to once daily from three gateways of Pakistan. PIA, however, made a counter-proposal to achieve the same objective. In the larger mutual interest of two airlines and to make efficient utilisation of each other's resources, following was proposed by PIA.

PIA suggested that it would stop operation to USA (New York and Chicago) and to Germany, Spain, Italy, France and the Netherlands. PIA would operate 21 frequencies (seven ex-Islamabad, seven Lahore and seven Karachi) between Turkey and Pakistan and deliver its passengers to TK at Istanbul for onward carriage to destinations beyond Istanbul.

The arrangements would be under pool/prorated revenue sharing and/or Code share where the bilateral arrangements so permit in terms of Third-party co-share clause. PIA proposed to have the code share under free said arrangements on 15 percent commission to marketing carrier on prorated price (net fare plus fuel surcharge) which shall be inclusive of fuel surcharge.

Regulatory authorities of the two countries will be approached for permission to operate these frequencies on aforementioned routes on Temporary Operating Permit (TOP), subject to implementation and continuation of the commercial agreement. However, after discussing various possibilities, it was agreed that the two airlines will work to achieve the following, under JVCA:

-- Operation of 21 frequencies between Pakistan and Turkey, with TK operating four weekly flights between Istanbul and Karachi and three weekly flights between Istanbul and Islamabad on TOP, and PIA operating the remaining frequencies. This arrangement could be re-evaluated and changed, if so desired and agreed between the two airlines.

-- On the implementation of JVCA, PIA will suspend its flights to New York, Chicago, Barcelona (Spain), Amsterdam, (Netherlands), Frankfurt, (Germany), and Italy.

-- PIA will retain its sales personnel at these stations and promote sales on beyond routes and joint venture flights on trunk routes.

-- PIA will operate three weekly flights, originating from Karachi to Houston via Istanbul. These flights will be supported by PIA sales. TK will advise affirmatively to the corresponding authorities for PIA replacement of the beyond point New York specified in Air Service Agreement for USA, to allow freedom carriage on Istanbul-Houston and return sector on these flights.

-- PIA will operate seven weekly frequencies between Istanbul and mutually agreed points in Europe under joint venture code share/pool/commercial arrangements with TK, as additional or as replacement of TK's already operated frequencies.

-- In case joint venture flights are extended to the beyond destinations out of home carrier's any hub, the principles of the seat capacity allocation will be agreed and reflect on the final text of JVCA and will be applicable on reciprocal basis.

-- The above arrangement will be on free sale, code-share basis, where possible, and on pool/SPAs/other commercial arrangements, as required on case to case basis, considering the Air Service Agreement 3rd party code share restrictions. Both airlines will conclude Special Prorate Agreement on all sectors that the airlines may request from the partner.

-- The joint venture operation will be under a joint Revenue Management (RM) control on mutually acceptable fares. Terms and conditions of proposed joint venture will be negotiated and concluded by working groups of both airlines.

-- Turkish Airlines will be joint venture partner on PIA flights from Pakistan to Nepal, Bangladesh, Bombay, (India), Sri Lanka and Male (Maldives), and other points east of Pakistan under similar arrangements.

-- PIA will be General Sales Agent (GSA) for TK in Pakistan, and TK shall be the GSA for PIA in Turkey.

-- PIA will provide ground handling and technical coverage to all TK flights operated to Pakistan, and TK will provide technical coverage and ground handling of PIA aircraft at Istanbul. If required, training of engineers will be mutually arranged.

-- Both airlines will exclusively use catering facilities of the partner airline, when applicable, on flights between Pakistan and Turkey.

-- To give the customers confidence in joint venture operation and homely atmosphere, the airlines will have the right to position their cabin crew on the operating airlines aircraft.

-- The operating carrier will arrange special food, reading material to the taste of marketing carrier's passengers.

-- The two airlines will cooperate in maximum utilisation of each other's engineering, maintenance and training facilities.

-- The two airlines will also integrate their frequent flyer programs for mutual benefit of the airlines and passengers travelling on two airlines.

-- The two airlines will immediately test/integrate interline e-ticketing.

-- Both airlines will provide all assistance/transit/business class lounge facilities to passengers at their home stations.

-- The two parties will also have code-share/block space/commercial co-operation arrangements for carriage of cargo under prorate basis. PIA will support TK to grant the required permission for its cargo flights which are scheduled at two weekly frequency between Turkey and Pakistan.

-- The JVCA is not binding for both parties unless and until both airlines get corresponding approvals from their boards and final documentation is signed by both parties.

Also, the implementation of these arrangements and final JVCA will be subject to the approval of the relevant Anti-Trust Immunity (ATI) and other regulatory authorities of both countries and will be to the extent permitted by any applicable law or regulation, and/or any existing agreement which binds either party. In case of any change to the agreed minutes due, to any such binding clause, the arrangements would be open for re-negotiation.
 
Decisione saggia.

Ormai i loro voli settimanali-multiscalo con un prodotto lontano anni luce da quello della concorrenza non potevano andare avanti a lungo.

Proprio l'altro giorno, avevo scritto che TK aprirà a breve, dopo anni di richieste ed attese, la destinazione Lahore.

Penso che nel futuro vicino li vedremo volare anche ad Islamabad (attualmente in c/s con PK).

Attualmente, volano solo verso Karachi (unica compagnia europea a volare in Pakistan).

ps. comunque PIA chiude anche Glasgow.
 
in Europa quindi voleranno solo a Londra e Manchester.
Peccato, ma è meglio così, in questo modo possono sistemare gli operativi in modo più felice
 
Adesso si capisce anche perchè tutta l'espansione europea di Turkish. Di certo questo accordo con PIA gioverà anche alla compagnia turca.


PIA to fly over 100 European destinations

Saturday, January 08, 2011

By Saad Hasan
KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) will give Middle East carriers run for passenger traffic as it gains access to over 100 European destinations through a code-sharing agreement with Turkish Airlines (TK), a senior PIA official said on Friday.

The memorandum of understanding signed by two airlines last week is likely to be approved by government into a firm agreement on January 28, said Aijaz Haroon, Managing Director PIA.

“Our biggest issue was lack of aircraft and limited flights to many countries in the west,” he told The News.

“We were losing passengers to Emirates, Etihad and Qatar Airways under the garb of sixth freedom rights.”

Code-share agreement allows two airlines to use each others’ aircraft, facilities and gain access to cities, which are not on their network. PIA would sell tickets to passengers for over 100 destinations, where the TK flies too.

Under the proposed agreement, the PIA will stop flights to Chicago and New York and to Germany, France, Italy and the Netherlands. Instead, it will operate 21 weekly flights from Karachi, Islamabad and Lahore to Turkey.

However, PIA continues to operate direct flights between Pakistan and USA, UK, Denmark and Norway. “Similarly, we will carry Turkish Airlines’ passengers to destinations in East like Bangladesh and Sri Lanka from our cities.”

He said that the PIA held long discussions with Etihad and Gulf Air to make code-share arrangement but TK was shortlisted as the best partner.

“Security threats have really minimised option of making Pakistan as a hub. Code-share was the best alternative to facilitate our passengers and grow business.”

Even though he did not disclose terms with TK, a copy of the agreement available with The News says PIA will earn 20 percent commission on every seat sold beyond Turkey. “PIA will definitely claw back lost revenues,” he said.

“Even in the worst case scenario, we will be able to earn Rs 12 billion additional revenue from this agreement.”

Turkish Airlines has large fleet of 151 aircraft compared to PIA’s 40 aircraft, he said.

“Most of its aircraft are just five years old. We will retain our sales agents in all the destinations.” He said that under the arrangement, Pakistani crew will also serve on TK’s flights to make locals feel at home. “We will make special arrangements for passengers at Turkish airports who make stopover for connecting flights.”

Passengers travelling on PIA flights to Istanbul will have to change the aircraft for travelling to European cities. It would be same as using Emirates and other Gulf carriers, which make a stop in their respective home countries. Haroon said this will allow PIA to use its new Boeing-777s between Pakistan and Turkey, improving quality of service and encouraging passengers to take Turkey’s route.

According to a PIA survey, out of the total international traffic from Pakistan, 81 percent is going through Gulf carriers.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=24587&Cat=2&dt=1/8/2011



PIA hub in Turkey to compete with Gulf airlines

From Duraid Sabir

DUBAI — Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) plans to set up its first regional hub in Turkey to expand its worldwide network to compete with Gulf-based carriers, its top official said on Thursday. Pakistan’s national flag carrier recently signed an agreement with Turkish Airlines to offer a wide range of facilities to one-stop passengers bound for Europe and the United States.

“We have signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Turkish Airlines to expand our network to more than 130 destinations worldwide,” Captain Mohammad Aijaz Haroon, Managing Director of PIA told Khaleej Times in a telephonic interview from Karachi. He said the agreement is subject to approval from the two governments and will be implemented by the end of March. “We will expand our network and introduce new destinations with the help of Turkish Airlines in summer schedule by March,” he said.

Analysts said the deal is expected to boost seat factor of PIA, which is estimated at 76 per cent during 2010 despite the difficult times in the wake of global financial crisis. In reply to a question, Capt Haroon said Gulf-based carriers are also interested in having a similar deal with PIA, but Turkish Airlines offers better options. “We get the Turkish Airlines business for its East-bound passengers and the Gulf airlines will never offer those kind of benefits to us,” he said.

Capt Haroon, who assumed the charge of PIA Managing Director in May 2008, said Etihad Airways, Gulf Air and other Middle East airlines have also shown their interest to expand cooperation with PIA. “Etihad Airways delegation is soon coming to Pakistan to discuss similar kind of deal,” he said. Dispelling the impression that PIA will no more fly to Europe and the US after the deal, Capt Haroon said PIA will continue its direct flights to Europe, the US and other key destinations in the West.

“Turkish Airlines will only take New York and Chicago routes from PIA and we will continue to operate our direct flights to other US cities, all over the United Kingdom, France, Oslo and other destinations,” he explained. Capt Haroon, who has over 30 years of airline experience, said MoU signed recently is more than a code-sharing deal between the two airlines.

“PIA passengers now will have access to more than 130 destinations through Istanbul hub and they can avail even daily service for more than 100 destinations in Europe, the US and South America.” He said the deal is a win-win situation for both the airlines as PIA will take the Turkish Airlines passengers bound for the destinations in East.

“Karachi will be Turkish Airlines hub and we will accommodate their passengers for Colombo, Dhaka and other destinations in the East,” Capt Haroon said. In reply to a question, Capt Haroon said there will be 21 weekly flights between Karachi and Istanbul to transit passengers of the two airlines. “Out of these 21 flights, PIA will operate 14 while the rest seven by Turkish Airlines,” he said.

He said the alliance with Turkish Airlines will directly affect the Gulf-based airlines as PIA passengers bound for remote destinations in the West will use the Istanbul hub rather than changing airlines in Dubai. “Its an important deal that will expand our network in Europe and the US. We cannot think of building that kind of network for our passengers even in the next five years due to our limited resources and recession in the aviation industry,” he said.

The airline earned an operating profit of Rs3 billion during 2009 and its revenues rose to Rs80 billion. The national flag carrier is expecting up to 25 per cent growth in revenues to cross Rs100 billion mark in 2010. “We will soon introduce new destinations or increase more flights in the East to expand our network mainly to compete the Gulf airlines,” Capt Haroon concluded.

http://dailymailnews.com/0111/08/Business/index.php?id=3
 
in Europa quindi voleranno solo a Londra e Manchester.
Peccato, ma è meglio così, in questo modo possono sistemare gli operativi in modo più felice

Dovrebbero volare ancora in UK, Norvegia e Danimarca, e probabilmente in Francia (ci sono ancora notizie discordanti). Inoltre si chiudono i voli per JFK e ORD ma pare che PK opererà su IAH con scalo a IST. Vedremo quando a fine mese sarà ratificato l'accordo.

Comunque l'81% del traffico internazionale del Pakistan è letteralmente divorato dalle compagnie del golfo, questo dato dice molto sulle motivazioni della JV con Turkish.
 
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Comunque l'81% del traffico internazionale del Pakistan è letteralmente divorato dalle compagnie del golfo, questo dato dice molto sulle motivazioni della JV con Turkish.

Difatti a GLA chiudono per via di EK che gli ha mangiato quasi tutta la clientela.
 
Salta quindi anche la BCN-ORD-BCN che PIA operava con la 5a libertà. Davvero un peccato era uno dei pochissimi voli Europa-Usa su cui si poteva prenotare il one way in entrambe le direzioni senza penalizzazioni tariffarie e a prezzi molto competitivi.
 
vorra dire magari che se il traffico di TK aumenterà vedremo il 330 o 340 fisso a MXP.....
 
È penoso vedere il vettore di un Paese di 180 milioni di abitanti mettersi in ginocchio in questo modo diventando a tutti gli effetti "regional", ma il mercato punisce gli sfigati.

A parte la foglia di fico del presentarsi come hub per Lanka e Bangladesh per i pax di TK, almeno non nascondono come stanno le cose. Da noi nessuno ammetterebbe mai di avere ben due hub, uno a CDG e uno ad AMS.
 
Chi ci rimette di piu' in questi cambiamenti è BCN che perde oltre ai collegamenti col Pakistan anche il suo unico volo diretto per ORD.
 
Certo però è comunque una rotta importante che ora rimane scoperta, vediamo se qualcun'altro lo rimpiazzerà.

Cesare, ma al di là di quattro sfigati che potevano salire a BCN, chi pensi possa essere danneggiato da questa cancellazione, tranne l'aeroporto che non potrà fregiarsi di "un volo per ORD"?
Chiamiamolo uno scalo per il carburante così diciamo pane al pane...