AA, DL e UA protestano contro vettori Qatar & UAE per concorrenza sleale
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"Qatar Airways boss accuses Delta of flying 'crap' planes"
http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-airways-boss-accuses-delta-flying-crap-planes-131601698.html
http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-airways-boss-accuses-delta-flying-crap-planes-131601698.html
James Hogan
Today I had the privilege of addressing the US Chamber of Commerce Foundation’s 14th Annual Aviation Summit in Washington, D.C.
This was a key speaking engagement, given that Etihad Airways and other Gulf carriers are facing criticism in a campaign conducted by some US airlines.
It was an opportunity to restore some balance into the argument with an important audience of senior aviation figures.
In my address, I called for reasoned debate based upon facts and outlined the dangers of taking action that could restrict competitive choice for millions of US and international air travellers in markets which the US airlines have chosen not to serve.
I also laid out the key facts behind Etihad Airways’ growth and our competitive strategy.
We remain one of the newest national airlines anywhere in the world and everything we have created – product, operations and infrastructure – has been from new.
As a growing airline, we have faced established competitors in every market we have entered since we began operations in 2003.
These have been airlines with firmly established brand identities, infrastructure, sales and marketing processes, and customer bases. In many cases, these airlines were historically gifted incredible infrastructure such as airports, terminals, slots, and landing rights over many decades.
We have never complained about this. Rather, we have relished the opportunity to compete. You have played an incredible part in this journey as we have had to work harder and smarter to make our airline the globally recognised brand that it is today.
As you have heard me say before, our geographic position at the world’s crossroads has certainly helped. This, coupled with today’s modern aircraft technology, has ideally positioned us to capitalise on many new and emerging markets.
You have also heard me stress many times before the importance of safe and secure operations, accompanied by remarkable customer service. If there is any ‘secret’ behind our growth and success, then quite frankly it is the incredible customer service you deliver on modern new aircraft with world-leading products at competitive prices.
Gulf carriers have also been challenged about a lack of transparency in their businesses and I was keen to address this head-on today.
At Etihad Airways, we very clearly and publicly set a timetable to break even within a decade of being formed and we beat that target, delivering a net profit in each of the last three years.
It is surprisingly hard to find financial information about the first one, or even two, decades of national airlines around the world so to receive criticism for lack of transparency in our formative years is both untrue and unfair.
There has also been a great deal of speculation and accusation regarding our funding. We are a national airline owned by its government - as many global airlines are.
We have been clear that we received equity investment and shareholder loans and these have been supplemented by US $10.5 billion in loans from international financial institutions.
However, let us also be clear that our shareholder the Government of Abu Dhabi - like any rational shareholder in the world - expects a return. As we grow and flourish, even greater returns will be expected in the future.
I was also keen to emphasise today that we are a friend of the United States. Not only are the bonds between it and the UAE incredibly strong, but we are major customers of important corporations that include Boeing, GE, and Sabre. We deal with and support many other American strategic partners, for example, with Atlas on developing and improving global cargo operations, as well as financial institutions, tourist boards, and airports.
In fact, our commitment to the US economy supports more than 200,000 jobs. Equally, Etihad Airways delivered 180,000 travellers onto the networks of US airlines in 2014, and 50,000 in the first two months of 2015.
I believe our position in the United States – as with any destination we operate to – is all about consumer choice. Customers choose to fly Etihad Airways because we offer a great product, with outstanding service, on the routes they want, at competitive prices.
I have no doubt that US airlines – many of which do not even compete directly with us on many routes - will continue to make noises about ourselves and fellow Gulf carriers.
As with today’s speech, our business will continue to address that and respond with a reasoned, pro-competition debate and I will make sure you remain informed of any important developments.
Today I had the privilege of addressing the US Chamber of Commerce Foundation’s 14th Annual Aviation Summit in Washington, D.C.
This was a key speaking engagement, given that Etihad Airways and other Gulf carriers are facing criticism in a campaign conducted by some US airlines.
It was an opportunity to restore some balance into the argument with an important audience of senior aviation figures.
In my address, I called for reasoned debate based upon facts and outlined the dangers of taking action that could restrict competitive choice for millions of US and international air travellers in markets which the US airlines have chosen not to serve.
I also laid out the key facts behind Etihad Airways’ growth and our competitive strategy.
We remain one of the newest national airlines anywhere in the world and everything we have created – product, operations and infrastructure – has been from new.
As a growing airline, we have faced established competitors in every market we have entered since we began operations in 2003.
These have been airlines with firmly established brand identities, infrastructure, sales and marketing processes, and customer bases. In many cases, these airlines were historically gifted incredible infrastructure such as airports, terminals, slots, and landing rights over many decades.
We have never complained about this. Rather, we have relished the opportunity to compete. You have played an incredible part in this journey as we have had to work harder and smarter to make our airline the globally recognised brand that it is today.
As you have heard me say before, our geographic position at the world’s crossroads has certainly helped. This, coupled with today’s modern aircraft technology, has ideally positioned us to capitalise on many new and emerging markets.
You have also heard me stress many times before the importance of safe and secure operations, accompanied by remarkable customer service. If there is any ‘secret’ behind our growth and success, then quite frankly it is the incredible customer service you deliver on modern new aircraft with world-leading products at competitive prices.
Gulf carriers have also been challenged about a lack of transparency in their businesses and I was keen to address this head-on today.
At Etihad Airways, we very clearly and publicly set a timetable to break even within a decade of being formed and we beat that target, delivering a net profit in each of the last three years.
It is surprisingly hard to find financial information about the first one, or even two, decades of national airlines around the world so to receive criticism for lack of transparency in our formative years is both untrue and unfair.
There has also been a great deal of speculation and accusation regarding our funding. We are a national airline owned by its government - as many global airlines are.
We have been clear that we received equity investment and shareholder loans and these have been supplemented by US $10.5 billion in loans from international financial institutions.
However, let us also be clear that our shareholder the Government of Abu Dhabi - like any rational shareholder in the world - expects a return. As we grow and flourish, even greater returns will be expected in the future.
I was also keen to emphasise today that we are a friend of the United States. Not only are the bonds between it and the UAE incredibly strong, but we are major customers of important corporations that include Boeing, GE, and Sabre. We deal with and support many other American strategic partners, for example, with Atlas on developing and improving global cargo operations, as well as financial institutions, tourist boards, and airports.
In fact, our commitment to the US economy supports more than 200,000 jobs. Equally, Etihad Airways delivered 180,000 travellers onto the networks of US airlines in 2014, and 50,000 in the first two months of 2015.
I believe our position in the United States – as with any destination we operate to – is all about consumer choice. Customers choose to fly Etihad Airways because we offer a great product, with outstanding service, on the routes they want, at competitive prices.
I have no doubt that US airlines – many of which do not even compete directly with us on many routes - will continue to make noises about ourselves and fellow Gulf carriers.
As with today’s speech, our business will continue to address that and respond with a reasoned, pro-competition debate and I will make sure you remain informed of any important developments.
Questa di Hogan mi sembra una risposta ben articolata.
Oltretutto, a margine, mi sembra che menzioni un punto importante "we delivered a net profit in each of the last three years", cosa che spesso anche qui veniva questionata.
Oltretutto, a margine, mi sembra che menzioni un punto importante "we delivered a net profit in each of the last three years", cosa che spesso anche qui veniva questionata.
"....let us also be clear that our shareholder the Government of Abu Dhabi - like any rational shareholder in the world - expects a return. As we grow and flourish, even greater returns will be expected in the future....."
....di EXPECTS e di WILL BE EXPECTED e' lastricato il mondo dell'aviazione....
....di EXPECTS e di WILL BE EXPECTED e' lastricato il mondo dell'aviazione....
E certo, come il modo dell'aviazione e' lastricato di chapter 11 bankruptcy filings...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_bankruptcies_in_the_United_States#Chapter_11
Infatti, se non ho capito male, è proprio a questo che stanno mirando le americane per mezzo di questo can can.
Al-Baker ha la delicatezza di Ivan Drago in Rocky IV.
Anderson ha lanciato l'esca con la storia degli arabi dell'11/9 e le M3 stanno abboccando, soprattutto EK e QR. E' evidente che l'obiettivo è fare abbastanza chiasso da costringere il governo ad intervenire in senso restrittivo.
Quanto ai sussidi, è scontato che avere un azionista con potere assoluto e disponibilità illimitate, è un benefit ben maggiore rispetto a poter usare il chapter 11, ma dover rispondere a fisco, dipendenti, sindacati, azionisti, politici e opinione pubblica.
Guardata in modo asettico, si potrebbe semplicemente sostenere che ognuno sta facendo la battaglia con i mezzi di cui dispone.
Quanto ai sussidi, è scontato che avere un azionista con potere assoluto e disponibilità illimitate, è un benefit ben maggiore rispetto a poter usare il chapter 11, ma dover rispondere a fisco, dipendenti, sindacati, azionisti, politici e opinione pubblica.
Guardata in modo asettico, si potrebbe semplicemente sostenere che ognuno sta facendo la battaglia con i mezzi di cui dispone.
Vallo a spiegare a Efato & Co. , una battaglia persa per pregiudizio e non per obiettivita'....
Intanto, ben diversamente dall'Italia e dall'italico modus operandi, qualcosa gia' si muove:
WASHINGTON, March 17 (Reuters) - The Obama administration has asked U.S. airlines for more information on their claims that Gulf carriers have received market-distorting subsidies, marking its first written response to U.S. airlines' lobbying effort, Reuters has learned.
The administration asked U.S. airline representatives about 20 questions in writing last week about their method in determining the subsidy allegations and about the market harm they say Gulf carriers have caused them, according to a person familiar with the matter.
WASHINGTON, March 17 (Reuters) - The Obama administration has asked U.S. airlines for more information on their claims that Gulf carriers have received market-distorting subsidies, marking its first written response to U.S. airlines' lobbying effort, Reuters has learned.
The administration asked U.S. airline representatives about 20 questions in writing last week about their method in determining the subsidy allegations and about the market harm they say Gulf carriers have caused them, according to a person familiar with the matter.
o magari una battaglia su interessi personali.
Non vorrei sbagliare ma credo di ricordare che tu lavori per UAL... e allora parliamo di UAL & chapter 11, il piu' costoso della storia dell'aviazione US. Le stime parlano di circa 21-28 miliardi di dollari di benefici che UAL ha ottenuto dal Chapter 11 nel periodo 2002-2006. Nel frattempo il suo CEO durante la ristrutturazione (e riquotazione in borsa) si e' portato a casa $15M in azioni ($400M al top management) . Azione altamente filantropica considerando che allo stesso tempo i creditori beccavano 20c per dollaro (se fortunati), dipendenti licenziati a migliaia, salari tagliati con percentuali a doppia cifra (30-40), e il pension fund azzerato (ricorda che a United e' stato permesso il default sui 4 fondi pensione che aveva per un valore di circa 3.2 miliardi di $) .
ma de che stamo a parla.....
Qui si chiama a coppe e tu rispondi a bastoni; peraltro il 2002, anno successivo al 2001 (9/11....tante volte non tenessi il conto), era 13 anni fa; diversi scenari e diverso panorama aeronautico, PER TUTTI.
Si continua a parlare di questioni ben diverse, ovvero di una politica federale USA che interessa le grandi aziende in difficolta', affinche' siano protette nel periodo di crisi in modo che si possano ristrutturare nelle dimensioni e nei costi, propri del momento storico attinente. Questa azione, approvata nel piano da una corte, prelude poi al reinserimento dell'azienda nel mercato, con tutti i suoi oneri ma anche con nuove opportunità' di sviluppo e di possibilità' di reimpiego, vedi proprio DL e UA, ma anche ultimamente AA.
Quindi uno strumento di rilancio e di sostegno, non un sussidio fine a se' stesso e volto unicamente all'imposizione della propria azienda (statale, come nel caso di EY) sul mercato, ma non seguendo le regole del mercato stesso!
dici bene, ma de che stamo a parla'.....
Quanto agli interessi personali non ti rispondo, accusa offensiva e gratuita che denota una discreta maleducazione
come al solito, buttata in caciara... io quando ho parlato di interessi personali non parlavo certamente di te ma parlavo di DL, AA, UA.
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invece tu, senza conoscermi, hai detto che io ho dei pregiudizi
chi e' il maleducato?
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invece tu, senza conoscermi, hai detto che io ho dei pregiudizi
chi e' il maleducato?