Uno stretch per il 380


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Monday November 12, 2007
International Lease Finance Corp. is talking to Airbus about a 30-ft. stretch of the A380 for entry into service in 10-12 years, ILFC Chairman and CEO Steven Udvar-Hazy told ATWOnline on the sidelines of the ALTA Airline Leaders Forum in Cancun last week. In addition to boosting passenger capacity, the stretch would expand the space available for belly cargo on passenger flights. Cargo capacity on the A380-800 that entered service with Singapore Airlines last month is "dismal," Hazy said, because baggage takes up so much space.

He also said that the 787-9 is around 14,000 lb. over budget on its operating empty weight. In addition to the challenge this presents for the -9, it creates a problem for the proposed 787-10 because the additional weight on the already heavier platform could mean a heavier landing gear as well as higher-thrust engines, changes that would cause it to lose a lot of commonality with the smaller -8 and -9 variants, he said. He is not excited about the 747-8 Intercontinental, the passenger version of the newest iteration of the aircraft. The airframe "is a great freighter," he said.

by Perry Flint
ATWOnline
 
il 380, quando fu proposto era nato come A3XX-100, erano previste due versioni in più, la A3XX-50 e la A3XX-200, la seconda guarda caso, 30ft più lunga della 100. L'ala è stata progettata per eventuale streached senza problemi. La versione 50 era una specie di SP, ma credo che dopo il successo di A345 e di 772LR non la vedremo mai...

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30ft sono 360", con 32" di pitch sono 11 file, 10 posti sotto e 8 sopra fa quasi 200 posti in più [:0]
E oltre 82 m di lunghezza.

insomma..un migliaio, mal contati, di pax paganti a botta!
creerebbe una sovracapacità spaventosa, mi chiedo che utilità avrebbe
 
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30ft sono 360", con 32" di pitch sono 11 file, 10 posti sotto e 8 sopra fa quasi 200 posti in più [:0]
E oltre 82 m di lunghezza.

insomma..un migliaio, mal contati, di pax paganti a botta!
creerebbe una sovracapacità spaventosa, mi chiedo che utilità avrebbe
se le cose vanno di questo passo, sara' utile quando la capacita' dei gtandi aeroporti sara' saturata; Emirates ha dichiarato che lo ordinerebbe subito, fosse disponibile.
 
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A sto punto, io la vedrei bene con la livrea Tirrenia
:D

Eccolo in anteprima......

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purtroppo non ho trovato il font giusto :P
 
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International Lease Finance Corp. is talking to Airbus about a 30-ft. stretch of the A380 for entry into service in 10-12 years, ILFC Chairman and CEO Steven Udvar-Hazy told ATWOnline on the sidelines of the ALTA Airline Leaders Forum in Cancun last week. In addition to boosting passenger capacity, the stretch would expand the space available for belly cargo on passenger flights. Cargo capacity on the A380-800 that entered service with Singapore Airlines last month is "dismal," Hazy said, because baggage takes up so much space.

He also said that the 787-9 is around 14,000 lb. over budget on its operating empty weight. In addition to the challenge this presents for the -9, it creates a problem for the proposed 787-10 because the additional weight on the already heavier platform could mean a heavier landing gear as well as higher-thrust engines, changes that would cause it to lose a lot of commonality with the smaller -8 and -9 variants, he said. He is not excited about the 747-8 Intercontinental, the passenger version of the newest iteration of the aircraft. The airframe "is a great freighter," he said.
Lo strech del 380 se lo aspettano un po' tutti e già diverse compagnie lo hanno richiesto più o meno a voce alta - ricordo di sicuro Branson.
Serve ? Certo che sì, perché il costo per pax diminuirà ulteriormente e viaggare sul lungo raggio diventerà ancora più popolare.
Il discorso sul bagaglio mi stupisce un po': è difficile che costrutturi e comp. aeree si facciano cogliere alla sprovvista da qualcosa di consolidato (il bagaglio medio per pax).

Il 787 sta attraversando la sua fase di "luna nera" :D e ora gli arriva sulla testa anche sentenza di Udvar-Hazy.
Colgo l'occasione per ricordare che il ritardo nelle consegne del 787 non ha un'effetto zero come Boeing ha annunciato inizialmente ma l'anno prossimo registrerà minori incassi per miliardi di dollari.

Infine parlare del 748I in questo momento è come sparare sulla Croce Rossa, finora non ha venduto neppure al Salone di Dubai e il libro ordini riporta qualche unità in configurazione VVIP e l'ordine LH.
Riflessione: LH ha in flotta praticamente tutto ciò che vola (se non lo ha lei lo hanno le sue regionals) perché il magazzino ricambi lo gestisce LH Technic e quindi, di fatto, LH lo condivide con tutti i clienti LHT, ma se nessun altro si compra il 748I un pezzo di business plan crolla.
Dopo la perdita dell'ordine per i "big" di BA, con una Emirates che non si decide e con speranza minime di vendita a molte asiatiche non mi stupirei se il 748I venisse cancellato. L'ultima speranza si chiama Giappone: solo da lì potrebbero venire degli ordini per dare un futuro a questo programma.
 
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Airbus Plans 900-Seat Superjumbo; Emirates Would Buy (Update1)

By Andrea Rothman and Laurence Frost

Nov. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Airbus SAS plans to build a 900- seat version of its A380 superjumbo. Emirates, the aircraft's biggest customer, said it would buy the new model.

Airbus will begin developing an A380 ``stretch'' after the standard plane reaches full production in 2010, Chief Operating Officer John Leahy said in an interview.

The 525-seat A380 managed to retain its airline customers even after a two-year delay wiped 4.8 billion euros ($7 billion) from earnings at parent European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co. Airbus has 191 orders for the plane, including 58 from Emirates. Eight of those were signed this week at the Dubai Air Show.

``I can't discuss it but there's an awful lot of interest in the A380,'' Leahy, who is also Airbus's chief salesman, said in the interview at the Dubai event yesterday. ``We've got a lot of different discussions going on around the world.''

Shares of EADS have gained 3.9 percent this week after Airbus won a slew of contracts at the show that Leahy said will help it to a record annual total. The Toulouse, France- based company announced 297 orders with a list price of $45.4 billion, compared with 155 at Boeing Co., worth $24.3 billion.

Emirates, the biggest Arab airline, was the week's top spender, purchasing 93 planes valued at $23.4 billion. Some of those would have been stretched A380s were that variant already on offer, President Tim Clark said in an interview.

``If we had the stretch available today, probably two- thirds of the A380s we've got on order would be for that model,'' Clark said in Dubai, where the company is based.

1,000-Seater

The biggest Arab airline would fit out the plane to carry 750 passengers on a typical flight, Clark said. Routes to countries such as Thailand and Saudi Arabia, destination of the Muslim Hajj pilgrimage, would even support a 1,000-seater plane, though airports might struggle to cope, he said.

The stretched superjumbo, to be designated the A380-900, would be developed once the current edition reaches its maximum build rate of 40 planes a year in 2010, Leahy said. The new jetliner would enter the market around 2015, he said.

Habib Fekih, Airbus's president for Middle East, said in an interview at the Dubai show that other airlines had expressed an interest in the bigger A380. He declined to identify them.

The entry into service of the first A380 with Singapore Airlines Ltd. last month has caused a surge in enquiries about the current production model, Leahy said, with interest coming from potential customers in countries including Japan.

``It's a logical plane for the Japanese market,'' the executive said. ``Singapore, Air France, Lufthansa and Korean Air will all be flying the A380 into that market.''

Fonte:http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=aFDn7WN3Sybc&refer=europe