Turkish mette gli occhi su A380 e B747-8


dreamliner

Il Gascoigne dei Tripreportisti
Utente Registrato
5 Ottobre 2007
6,046
6
Victoria BC
September 24, 2010
Turkish Airlines, Europe's fourth-biggest carrier, does not have enough planes to meet its expansion plans and may acquire double-deck aircraft, Chairman Hamdi Topcu told Star newspaper on Friday.

The Istanbul-based airline is looking at the feasibility of both the Airbus A380 or Boeing's 747-8 double-deck aircraft, Topcu told the newspaper.

Boeing is developing the 747-8 for delivery expected next year. It will directly compete with Airbus's A380 model, which is already in service.

Topcu reiterated the flag carrier's fleet target of 184 planes in 2011, up from 142 now. It has placed orders for 89 planes, 24 which are for wide-body aircraft designed for long-haul routes.

(Reuters)
 
Turkish vicina ad una decisione su ordine B748 o A380

Turkish close to decision on ordering 747-8s or A380s

Turkish Airlines Chairman Hamdi Topcu told ATW in Seattle on Tuesday that THY is “evaluating” proposals to order either 747-8s or A380s by year end. He said the carrier is also deciding whether to order additional 737-900s and is in talks with Airbus regarding a possible A320 order.
Topcu said that “depending on the financial offers” from Boeing and Airbus, the airline could move to acquire production slots freed up by other airlines’ order cancellations.
THY CEO Temel Kotil told ATW recently that the carrier will decide on a possible A350/787 order in early 2011 (ATW Daily News, Oct. 4).
Topcu was in Seattle to accept delivery of the first of 12 new 777-300ERs THY has on order. Four more of the type will arrive this year with the remaining seven slated to be delivered during the first eight months of next year. The 337-seat 777-300ER is configured for 28 business-class seats, 63 "economy-comfort class" seats and 246 economy seats. THY will return four leased 777-300s by the end of this year.

atwonline.com

L'articolo parla anche di futuri ordini aggiuntivi per B739/A320 ed anche su ordini per B787/A350 per l'inizio 2011.....questi non si fermano piu!
 
Viene paventata una decisione in merito entro il prossimo mese

Turkish Air May Order 15 Airbus or Boeing Jumbos Next Month

Turk Hava Yollari AO, or Turkish Airlines, will order at least 15 jumbo airliners valued at $4 billion from Airbus SAS (EAD) or Boeing Co. (BA) as early as next month as it adds routes and seeks acquisitions in emerging markets.
Europe’s fifth-largest carrier plans to purchase Airbus A380 or Boeing 747-8 planes for delivery after 2014, Chairman Hamdi Topcu said in an interview in Istanbul.

Turkish Airlines is looking at jets bigger than Boeing’s 330-seat 777, currently the carrier’s largest model, as it seeks to lure transfer traffic between Europe and Asia away from rivals Air France-KLM Group, Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA) and British Airways-parent International Consolidated Airlines Group SA. (IAG)
“The price will determine the size of the purchase but it should not be below 15 planes,” Topcu said at the company’s headquarters near its Ataturk airport hub. “We are assessing the purchase plan in the board of directors and will make a decision on this in one month.”
Turkish Airlines (THYAO) advanced as much as 2.1 percent to 2.94 liras and was trading at that price, the highest since Sept. 21 last year, as of 10:14 a.m. in Istanbul. The stock has surged 39 percent this year, valuing the company at 3.54 billion liras ($1.97 billion).
An order announcement may be timed to coincide with the Farnborough International Air Show, the largest aerospace event in the world this year, which runs for seven days from July 9, Topcu said, or could come later in the month. Major aircraft commitments are often revealed at expos as airlines and manufacturers seek to showcase their orders.

No Split


Turkish Airlines, which aims to raise sales to $7.8 billion this year from $7 billion in 2011, is assessing simulations of both the A380 and 747-8, as well as the price, Topcu said, adding that it won’t split the order between the two types.
The carrier currently has 39 long-haul jets, according to its website, including 12 777s and 17 passenger-variant Airbus A330s. It hasn’t ordered Boeing’s 787 or the Airbus A350, the newest wide-bodies, and is unlikely to do so as it seeks larger jets, Chief Executive Officer Temel Kotil has said.
The European manufacturer’s A380 superjumbo carries 525 people in three-cabin configuration or more than 800 in a single coach class. Boeing’s 747-8 seats 467 in three-class mode.
Including single-aisle models, Turkish Airlines currently has 179 jetliners in its fleet. That will increase to 200 by the end of this year and 206 through 2013, when an expansion program originally slated to end in 2015 will have been completed, Topcu said. With that in mind, it’s planning a next sequence of orders from 2014, with the total likely to reach at least 300 by 2023.

Neo, MAX


While the emphasis will be on adding bigger planes, the carrier is also interested in the Airbus A320 Neo and Boeing 737 MAX narrow-bodies, the executive said. The airline plans to supply crews for the expanded fleet by opening a flight school to train 300 pilots, 200 of them for its own needs, Topcu said.
Turkey’s plans to build a third airport in Istanbul, for which a tender process may begin in September, will help determine fleet size, Topcu said.
The situation at Ataturk, Istanbul’s main airport, where passenger numbers rose 17 percent last year to 37.5 million, may also be eased by increasing the number of aircraft parking bays by about 50 percent to around 150, he said. The hub is controlled by Aeroports de Paris following its investment in operator TAV Havalimanlari Holding AS (TAVHL) in March.

M&A Targets


Turkish Airlines is looking at about 10 takeover prospects in Africa, Asia and the Middle East as it seeks hubs in Africa and Asia, Topcu said, adding that the cash and credit position is “strong,” with no upper limit to the size of a deal.
Still, its European ambitions have been curbed, with talks to buy Polish national carrier Polskie Linie Lotnicze LOT SA ending this month because of European Union rules limiting outside ownership, Topcu said. The same applies to TAP SGPS SA, which the Portuguese government is in the process of selling.
“The EU doesn’t allow us to have stake control or effective management control,” he said. “Therefore we can’t buy.” Talks on Turkey joining the bloc, which would allow its companies to make full takeovers, are on hold while a rotating presidency is held by Cyprus, whose government it doesn’t recognize.
In Europe, Turkish Airlines ranks behind only network carriers Air France-KLM Group (AF), Deutsche Lufthansa AG and IAG -- parent of British Airways and Spain’s Iberia -- plus discount leader Ryanair Holdings Plc in terms of traffic.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...er-15-airbus-or-boeing-jumbos-next-month.html
 
Come fa TK, storicamente un operatore piuttosto marginale, a espandersi a ritmi mai visti prima con nessun altro vettore, mentre la maggior parte sta solo tagliando a 360°?

O sono particolarmente bravi loro, o sono particolarmente incapaci gli altri.
 
Segue solo di pari passo la crescita dell'economia turca. Fra un po' saranno loro a non aver più interesse a voler entrare in EU.
 
Come fa TK, storicamente un operatore piuttosto marginale, a espandersi a ritmi mai visti prima con nessun altro vettore, mentre la maggior parte sta solo tagliando a 360°?

O sono particolarmente bravi loro, o sono particolarmente incapaci gli altri.

Quello che dici e' vero, anche se questa mega espansione in stile EK non la vedo cosi' tanto sostenibile. La ritengo una strategia molto rischiosa che viene sfruttata anche per il periodo particolarmente 'generoso' di chi li finanzia.
 
Segue solo di pari passo la crescita dell'economia turca. Fra un po' saranno loro a non aver più interesse a voler entrare in EU.

E' da poco tempo che sta entrando sempre più prepotentemente l'ipotesi dell'ormai non più basilare caposaldo, per la politica turca, riguardante l'entrata in UE; fortemente bloccata dal perno della questione armena e da alcune questioni di materia sociale. La Turchia, con la sua storia a cavallo tra due continenti e soprattutto tra due civiltà in costante conflitto come quella "Occidentale" e quella "Araba, ha sempre, dopo la rivoluzione di Ataturk, assunto il ruolo di mediatrice. Ora che l'economia sembra girare bene e produrre i suoi frutti si possono permettere grandi progetti ma, inutile affermare che, se il resto del Mondo è in crisi la tua bella economia in crescita ridurrà i suoi benefici e ti trascinerà inequivocabilmente nel vortice dal quale ti sei sempre tenuta lontana.
 
Come fa TK, storicamente un operatore piuttosto marginale, a espandersi a ritmi mai visti prima con nessun altro vettore, mentre la maggior parte sta solo tagliando a 360°?

O sono particolarmente bravi loro, o sono particolarmente incapaci gli altri.
anche emirates,etihad e qatar stanno crescendo a ritmi enormi
quindi non direi che nessun vettore cresce a tali livelli