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Is there another way to get there if BA is grounded?

BA has said it is rejigging its flight schedules for the period which may be affected by strikes and hopes to announce its plans soon.

Customers who have a booking between December 22 and January 2, or for 48 hours either side of those dates, can re-book to travel at a later date.

Passengers who booked through a travel agent are being advised to contact their agent.

It is not yet clear which BA flights may end up being grounded. For the latest information, go to www.ba.com.

These are some of the alternatives BA passengers may have if they find their flight has been cancelled and they still want to get away during the holiday period.


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The airline BMI Regional operates from airports including Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Leeds Bradford, Manchester and East Midlands to more than 13 destinations.

A spokesman said: "Providing an accurate number of the seats available on services where BMI and BA operate the same route isn't possible. This is because it's a dynamic figure, changing all the time."

He urged anyone who wanted to check availability to visit www.flybmi.com.

Paul Simmons, Easyjet's UK general manager said: "We have seen additional bookings over the past 24 hours and we will do whatever we can to accommodate people's travel needs over the holiday period.

"We still have over 160,000 seats available during the period on the routes that we share with BA.

"However, to put this into context, as we stand the flights are already over 75% full, so people looking to get away should act quickly."

The company said its flights from Luton, Gatwick and Stansted to both Edinburgh and Glasgow were selling fast.

Stephen McNamara, head of communications at Ryanair, told BBC News that there had been a 40% increase in activity on its website on Monday compared with what it would have expected. And traffic on the site was busy again on Tuesday.

Mr McNamara said Ryanair had only limited spaces available over the holiday and that seats were filling fast.

An Association of Train Operating Companies (Atoc) spokesman said no trains were running on Christmas Day and there was a minimal service on Boxing Day.

There would be a normal Sunday service on 27 December, followed by a Bank Holiday service on 28 December.

Atoc says people seeking cheap train tickets should visit the National Rail Enquiries website's "Cheapest fare finder" service, or the Best Value Rail Fares site.

The Christmas period would not witness the disruption due to engineering works of recent years, the spokesman said. Some 8,000 more trains, and a third fewer replacement buses are running compared with last year.

"The vast majority of people travelling should experience no disruption whatsoever due to engineering works over the Christmas period," the spokesman said.

National Express runs coaches to more than 1,000 destinations across the UK. The company points out that many of its services run to, from and between airports which could be helpful for passengers who need to switch flights.

EUROPE

Eurostar operates trains to the main hubs of Paris, Lille and Brussels where passengers can transfer to other services which will take them to many destinations.

The company runs up to 18 trains a day in each direction between London and Paris.

It says people who visit Eurostar.com can see which trains are full, which still have seats available and how much those seats will cost.

A spokeswoman said the Christmas holiday was traditionally a busy time with the start of the ski season and people visiting friends and family.

The strength of the euro has also made services to London very popular.

Airline Easyjet said seats on its short haul flights to destinations such as Nice, Barcelona, Madrid, Munich and Amsterdam were selling fast.

You can find more details on the websites of Ryanair and BMI for their services to and from Europe.
LONG HAUL

A spokesman for Virgin Atlantic said it was too early to say what the effect of the planned strikes would be until BA had published its revised schedule.

She said Virgin Atlantic would do all it could to help BA passengers to get to their destinations.

She said the company was still selling seats to all destinations, but many of its flights, including those to New York, were "incredibly busy".
 
Per non sapere nè leggere nè scrivere io ieri sera ho acquistato un nuovo biglietto aereo con LX per Londra.Peccato perchè il volo BA l'avevo pagato solo 113euro...!
 
Beh tanto tutte queste riprotezioni o riacquisti su altre compagnie sono a carico di BA... Un bel danno finanziario!

Non sono sicuro sul riacquisto però. Il collega che doveva viaggiare con me da MAN a FRA via LHR ha chiesto prima il rimborso e poi prenotato con LH nonostante gli avessero proposto (come a me) il diretto di BE.
 
non ho chiesto il rimborso perchè purtroppo l'avevo fatto tramite expedia che,non avendo nè comunicazioni nè disposizioni a riguardo dalla compagnia aerea,ha potuto rimborsarmi solo 35euro di tasse.avrei dovuto aspettare l'effettiva cancellazione del volo,però ormai è fatto.Ho preferito ricomprare il biglietto nuovo perchè avendo pagato così poco e non essendo frequent flyer mi avrebbero dato la riprotezione peggiore possibile.
 
non ho chiesto il rimborso perchè purtroppo l'avevo fatto tramite expedia che,non avendo nè comunicazioni nè disposizioni a riguardo dalla compagnia aerea,ha potuto rimborsarmi solo 35euro di tasse.avrei dovuto aspettare l'effettiva cancellazione del volo,però ormai è fatto.Ho preferito ricomprare il biglietto nuovo perchè avendo pagato così poco e non essendo frequent flyer mi avrebbero dato la riprotezione peggiore possibile.

non ti conveniva aspettar magari che BA cancellasse il volo o desse informazioni a expedia? dal momento che il biglietto con LX l'hai preso le tasse statali, per un volo non utilizzato, expedia le avrebbe rimborsate comunque...
 
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non ho chiesto il rimborso perchè purtroppo l'avevo fatto tramite expedia che,non avendo nè comunicazioni nè disposizioni a riguardo dalla compagnia aerea,ha potuto rimborsarmi solo 35euro di tasse.avrei dovuto aspettare l'effettiva cancellazione del volo,però ormai è fatto.Ho preferito ricomprare il biglietto nuovo perchè avendo pagato così poco e non essendo frequent flyer mi avrebbero dato la riprotezione peggiore possibile.

Ripeto che, a fronte di tutte le soluzioni che BA offre da LIN/MXP, saresti stato ampiamente al riparo da eventuali imprevisti.
 
Ripeto che, a fronte di tutte le soluzioni che BA offre da LIN/MXP, saresti stato ampiamente al riparo da eventuali imprevisti.

Da tenere presente anche la disponibilitá peró. Se il viaggio era un viaggio breve, secondo me ha fatto bene a prenotare con un'altra compagnia: dover rimanere a LIN/MXP per riprotezioni varie, magari su voli anche molte ore dopo la tua originale partenza non mi sembra una gran prospettiva.
Poi ognuno la vede a modo suo, ma io penso alle migliaia di persone che viaggiano poco o nulla e si ritroveranno in un bailamme senza precedenti.
 
Da tenere presente anche la disponibilitá peró. Se il viaggio era un viaggio breve, secondo me ha fatto bene a prenotare con un'altra compagnia: dover rimanere a LIN/MXP per riprotezioni varie, magari su voli anche molte ore dopo la tua originale partenza non mi sembra una gran prospettiva.
Poi ognuno la vede a modo suo, ma io penso alle migliaia di persone che viaggiano poco o nulla e si ritroveranno in un bailamme senza precedenti.

La riprotezione l' avrebbe programmata molto prima del viaggio semplicemente chiamando BA e, con circa 10 voli da MIL, non avrebbe avuto alcun problema. Ovvio che se doveva fare un rientro in giornata le soluzioni si sarebbero dimezzate, ma posso dirti per esperienza personale (come ho scritto sopra) che gli operatori del call center si stanno mostrando davvero disponibili. Non ho idea pero' se si ha diritto al full refund prenotando con Expedia...
 
Io sto a Londra due giorni,per cui ci mancava anche mi cambiassero gli operativi del volo.
British fino a questoi momento non ha ancora predisposto un piano d'emergenza,per cui l'unica cosa che avrei potuto fare sarebbe stato cambiare le date dei voli gratuitamente.
expedia mi ha dato indietro su 113euro totali 35euro dei 93euro di tasse.
Al momento BA tra l'altro non permette la riprotezione e il cambio di orari all'interno dei 12 giorni di sciopero.
cmq la morale di questa storia è che avrei dovuto per il rimborso aspettare l'effettiva cancellazione del volo.
quindi l'unica cosa che avrei potuto fare sarebbe stata spostare il volo ad una data a caso dopo lo sciopero.
cmq
 
BA being turned into Ryanair, says Unite
The union representing British Airways’ 13,500 cabin crew has accused chief executive Willie Walsh of trying to turn the airline into Ryanair and of leading a “ruthless” company.


By Alistair Osborne
Published: 7:43PM GMT 15 Dec 2009

The British Airlines Stewards and Stewardesses Association (BASSA), a branch of union Unite, sent an update to members on Tuesday as the backlash intensified over the planned 12-day strike.

While BA launched an injunction to try to block the cabin crew walk-out, BASSA defended its decision to strike over Christmas and lashed out at the airline’s leadership.

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“Walsh is literally trying to turn the national airline of this country into Ryanair,” BASSA declared.

The union acknowledged that a Christmas strike would “cause real heartache amongst the public”, but claimed: “Ruined Christmases will eventually be forgotten, certainly by next Christmas, but your terms and conditions are something you will have with you for the rest of your working life. BA must be made to see sense and it was reluctantly felt only 'audacious’ action would have any effect.”

It said it “would have been unfair to have held a series of three-day strikes because that would have exposed the small percentage of crews taking action the first time around”.

Noting five crew had been suspended on gross misconduct charges for apologising for slow service over the in-flight tannoy, BASSA claimed BA’s was “a frightened, bullied workforce”, adding: “The media need to understand just how ruthless BA are under Willie Walsh. Remember this is a man who said you get nowhere with negotiating.”

The sentiment did not tally, however, with a message from Mr Walsh to all BA’s 40,000 staff, which concluded: “I am, of course, available for talks with Unite at any time.”

It also emerged that Mr Walsh had held a meeting on Friday with Derek Simpson and Tony Woodley, Unite’s joint general secretaries, where he told the union that BA felt the ballot was flawed because papers had been sent to staff leaving the airline.

Mr Walsh also questioned “how many cabin crew were told during the ballot that if they voted 'yes’, they would be called out on strike for 12 days”. Some crew privately admitted that they were only told that after they had voted.

Theresa Villiers, shadow transport secretary, said: “The union needs to wake up to the realities of the 21st century aviation industry and the intense competitive pressure BA faces.”

BA shares fell 4.4 to 196.4p.
 
The High Court is expected to decide today if a 12-day strike by British Airways cabin crew is illegal and should be stopped.
Court To Decide If BA Xmas Strike Is Legal

The Unite union has also agreed to meet BA officials for talks later on whether the planned Christmas walkout can be delayed.
BA claims many of the staff balloted by Unite have since left the airline, rendering their votes invalid.
It says it is taking legal action to protect customers from the "massive stress and disruption" the stoppage would cause.
Unite has called a strike from December 22 to January 2 in a bitter row over jobs, pay and working conditions.
If it goes ahead it will affect more than one million passengers and cost the airline tens of millions of pounds.
Unite announced the strike after its ballot showed a 92% majority in favour of industrial action. Some 80% of the union's 12,500 BA cabin crew members voted.
The union is protesting at the imposition of changes to crew numbers as well as a pay freeze and plans to introduce different rates of pay and conditions for new crew members.
Airline analyst Andrew Fitchie, of Collins Stewart, estimates the strikes would cost BA between £10m and £30m a day.
That is on top of the firm's current losses of around £1.6m a day.
 
io devi andare a nyc mercoledi prossimo con BA....secondo voi cosa mi conviene fare?

Attendere la decisione della High Court innanzitutto e poi chiamare il call center, che però è inondato di chiamate e pertanto i tempi di attesa possono allungarsi di brutto. P.S.: in tal senso, un giornalista di Sky News ha fatto una simulazione di chiamata ieri ed è rimasto al telefono per oltre 45 minuti.
Se lo sciopero andrà avanti, la Compagnia organizzerà uno schedule di emergenza e da ciò potrai vedere se il tuo volo è confermato o meno.
P.S.: l' ho detto in un altro thread - a me hanno trovato una soluzione piuttosto velocemente, ma conveniva anche a loro visto che avevo chiesto il full refund del mio biglietto di CE e poi BE (dove mi hanno riprotetto) ha ancora accordi commerciali con loro.
 
la mia compagnia ha appena ricevuto il seguente aggiornamento da BA:

"As you are probably aware British Airways sought a high court injunction yesterday to prevent the industrial action from going ahead. The results of this action will not be known until later today. British Airways extended yet another invitation to meet the the trade union, Unite without pre-conditions yesterday.

As of 11am on December 17, no flights have been cancelled and our travel policy remains the same (see below for reminder). We are still hoping to prevent this strike from going ahead and runining Christmas for our passengers and their families.

I'm afraid that's all the information I have at the moment....

TRAVEL POLICY (as of 11am on 17 Dec)
Customers who are booked to travel throughout the strike period December 22, 2009 to January 2, 2010 and for two days on either side are able to rebook
onto another BA flight to the same destination as their original booking in the next twelve months."
 
Per non sapere nè leggere nè scrivere io ieri sera ho acquistato un nuovo biglietto aereo con LX per Londra.Peccato perchè il volo BA l'avevo pagato solo 113euro...!
Se per te è importante partire quel giorno, hai fatto bene.

Se i voli BA verrano cancellati BA ti rimborserà in pieno, altrimenti avrai speso di più. E' un dilemma non facile, a me era capitato un problema simile durante una vacanza e ho scelto di "scommettere" sulla cancellazione (alla fine mi era andata bene).
 
Se i voli BA verrano cancellati BA ti rimborserà in pieno, altrimenti avrai speso di più.

Lui ha prenotato via Expedia quindi non credo che BA gli rimborserà il volo. Sono comunque soltanto 113 Euro, ma immagino il panico di chi ha voli prenotati nelle classi premium e tutt' ora non sa se cancellare e spendere di più con un' altra compagnia oppure attendere e rischiare di non andare a destinazione.
 
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