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Star gives Air India July 31 deadline to meet entry requirements

By Kurt Hofmann | May 10, 2011

Star Alliance CEO Jaan Albrecht told ATW that Air India has until July 31 to fulfill the requirements to join the airline grouping or the carrier's invitation will be withdrawn."The process for AI to fulfill its requirements has now taken nearly four years," he noted. "We will not extend this deadline anymore. One day there must be a final point." Nevertheless, he added, "We expect that AI will make it."

Former AI COO Gustav Baldauf, who resigned earlier this year, said AI will have difficulty meeting the deadline. "I strongly believe that AI will not fulfill all the necessary requirements to be able to join Star by the end of July," he told ATW. "AI is simply not ready for Star."

AI may be in a better position to meet Star's requirements following the resumption of normal operations on Monday after a disruptive 10-day strike by a portion of its pilots came to an end on Friday. The work action by about 800 former Indian Airlines pilots led to more than 1,000 flight cancellations.

AI was originally slated to join Star in 2010 but has had trouble meeting the alliance's membership standards regarding IT systems and other areas. The state-owned carrier has struggled financially in recent years and is attempting to gain the backing of Indian bankers for a comprehensive restructuring plan.

Albrecht said that "the Indian government is very well informed that AI has to fulfill the requirements" to become a Star member.

When asked what happens if AI fails to meet the standards for joining Star, Albrecht said, "There is no plan B. But in the contract between Star and AI it is mentioned that [the airline] will not be in an exclusive position" in India. Similar to the US and China, India is a market in which Star believes more than one member is necessary "and Jet Airways has always been a factor. Even when AI becomes a member, we will keep our door open [for a second Indian partner]."
A network overlap between two Indian carriers within one alliance would be possible, he added. "But we also believe traffic streams within India will concentrate, there will be a split of the market and the need to feed hubs will be necessary," he explained.

Albrecht said Star has shown a great deal of patience with AI. "It is a complex process," he commented. "By the end of July, we will have a clear vision of where Star and AI stand."

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Bah, chissà... Forse se non entra in SA c'è una possibilità per ST e quindi per uno sviluppo a FCO, anche se più probabile a CDG ;) sempre se non sceglie OW :D
 
per come è gestita è meglio che se ne stia senza alleanza, visto che sono almeno 3 anni che deve entrare in SA e viene sempre posticipato l'ingresso
 
Ancora non mi spiego come abbia fatto a entrare in star ms dopo averci volato mi vergognerei che una compagna del genere possa far parte di star alliance
 
Continua la telenovela....

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_rivals-dont-want-air-india-in-star-alliance_1570457
Rivals don’t want Air India in Star Alliance
Published: Friday, Jul 29, 2011, 8:00 IST
By Sindhu Bhattacharya | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA

Air India’s entry into Star Alliance, the prestigious global airline group, is being torpedoed by competing airlines who want a larger slice of the Indian market as a quid pro quo, according to sources familiar with the development.
Star Alliance is a consortium of 28 airlines including Lufthansa, Air Canada, Singapore Airlines, Thai Airways and Swiss and each member airline has a veto in deciding on new members.
It has a fleet of over 4,000 aircraft across 181 countries and offers benefits such as seamless transfers to AI passengers across the world, more frequent flyer mileage points, code sharing and access to lounge facilities worldwide.
According to multiple sources, some member airlines of the Alliance have already expressed their reservations against AI and if its proposal is not all together scuttled, AI’s joining will certainly be delayed. The central executive of Star Alliance is slated to meet on Sunday to take a final call on AI but unconfirmed reports said 10 of the 28 airlines have already indicated their opposition to AI.
On its part, India has become cautious in granting bilateral rights to foreign airlines in the last few years.
A senior official in the ministry of civil aviation said AI has been pursuing some airlines to change their mind and vote in its support, pointing out that some foreign carriers who want to grow their Indian business are standing in the way of AI. Air India officials acknowledged that the joining deadline — which is July 31 — has been pushed back by a few weeks.
The ministry official quoted above said that in case Star Alliance does not work out, AI could look towards working with another global alliance, SkyTeam, which is sending a delegation to India next week to explore business opportunities here.
“We have never stopped anyone from joining a global alliance. We allowed Kingfisher to join OneWorld.... if AI is not allowed to join Star Allince no other private Indian carrier will stand a chance of joining it either,” he said.
He was perhaps referring to Jet Airways, which has been keen to join Star Alliance for years now.
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in merito all'ultimo pezzo. Che cavolo gliene frega se Jet entra, visto che scaduto il termine, se AI non entra in *A, mai più avrà occasione di farlo, perchè trascinare (metaforicamente) nel baratro anche Jet? Piuttosto cerchi di migliorare (in modo pesante) la gestione della compagnia e cercare di entrare magari in SkyTeam piuttosto.
 
Il gioco di alleanze è preso fatto: se AI non entra in *A potrebbe farlo Jet al suo posto (anche se attualmente escluso dal precedente articolo), con conseguente entrata futura di AI in ST, secondo il dictat di stato di qualche anno fa.
 
Air India non entrerà in Star Alliance, è stata respinta per non aver seguito le condizioni stabilite nel 2007!
 
Dopo Star Alliance, Air India prova la via i SkyTeam

After losing Star Alliance, AI makes effort to join SkyTeam

By C Shivkumar Aug 21 2011 , New Delhi
Tags: News
Having failed to make it to Star Alliance, Air India has begun efforts to become part of rival aviation services alliance, SkyTeam. Top aviation ministry officials explored the opportunity for Air India with SkyTeam managing director Michael Wisbrun last week. SkyTeam is an alliance of 14 global air carriers.

Top civil aviation officials said that Sky Team managing director Michael Wisburn had one round of discussions last weekend with top brass of the nodal ministry led by secretary Nasim Zaidi.

The officials who declined to be quoted said any decision to change course would have to be taken by Air India’s board instead of the government. The meeting with SkyTeam comes close on the heels of a virtual collapse of Air India’s attempts to enter the largest aviation alliance, Star Alliance late last month.

“It is for the new chief executive, Rohit Nandan, to take a decision on terminating or reopening negotiations with Star Alliance. But the options are open,” the officials said. SkyTeam is the second largest aviation alliance in the world serving close to about 920 destinations. Prominent SkyTeam members include Dutch carrier, KLM, AeroFlot, Delta, Alitalia, Air Europa and Vietnam Airlines.

SkyTeam’s Wisbrun meeting with civil aviation ministry officials assumes significance, as Air India is to yet formally declare any form of scrapping of negotiations with Star Alliance. The officials said, “Since Air India is the national carrier, our efforts to get it into the alliance.” The officials added, that private sector carriers, that were beginning their international operations could join the alliance after AI induction.

But Star Alliance in an email had indicated that entry of Air India was not on the agenda when the chief executives board meets in December this year. The email reply from Star Alliance’s vice-president corporate office had said, “Not from the current perspective.” The email though added, “But leaves room to discuss a potential Alliance membership at a future stage, if deemed appropriate by both parties.”

Star Alliance had called off Air India’s induction into the grouping late last month on the grounds that the carrier had failed to comply with some of the conditions to join the alliance.

http://www.mydigitalfc.com/news/after-losing-star-alliance-ai-makes-effort-join-skyteam-050
 
Ma skyteam non fa una "brutta figura" ad accettare AI dopo che questa è stata respinta da Star?! Cioè non fa la figura di quella che raccoglie gli scarti delle altre(so bene che badano più a eventuali introiti che all immagine).
 
tovi ha detto:
Ma skyteam non fa una "brutta figura" ad accettare AI dopo che questa è stata respinta da Star?! Cioè non fa la figura di quella che raccoglie gli scarti delle altre(so bene che badano più a eventuali introiti che all immagine).
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Ufficialmente Star Alliance e Air India hanno rinunciato ("temporaneamente") all'entrata di AI. Ma per SkyTeam non si era parlato di Jet Airways?
 
A questo punto si potrebbe anche cambiare il titolo del thread , perché in Star AI non entrerà proprio ...
 
Per Jet si era parlato di SkyTeam secondo la logica del principio "una compagnia, un'alleanza" voluta dal governo, che vedeva
Air India già in Star. Ora quest'ultimo si è messo di traverso, volendo piazzare la compagnia ad un'allenza e al contempo bloccando una possibile ed eventuale entrata di Jet in una delle due rimaste.
 
MalboroLi ha detto:
esattamente che parametri non ha rispettato?
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Ti riporto qui il comunicato ufficiale di Star Alliance:

NEW DELHI, India - July 31st, 2011 - The member airlines of the Star Alliance network and Air India have jointly concluded that the integration of Air India into the global airline alliance will be suspended. This is due to the fact that Air India has not met the minimum joining conditions that were contractually agreed in December 2007.
Following a recent review of the status of Air India's application at a meeting held between the Indian Ministry for Civil Aviation, Star Alliance CEO, Jaan Albrecht and the Air India CMD, Arvind Jadhav, the decision to suspend has received subsequent confirmation by the Star Alliance Chief Executive Board.
Star Alliance CEO, Jaan Albrecht said: "With the collective decision to put the integration efforts on hold today we aim to contribute to Air India's flexibility to concentrate on its ongoing strategic reorientation. In this process our member carriers will continue to provide assistance to Air India wherever required."
Existing bilateral relationships with Star Alliance member airlines are not affected by this decision, which also leaves room to discuss a potential Alliance membership at a future stage, if deemed appropriate by both parties.

Fonte: http://www.staralliance.com/en/press/starairindia-prp/

E' piuttosto generico, ma se non ricordo male, erano stati citati problemi nei sistemi IT e nelle procedure, soprattutto quelle legate al servizio delle classi premium.
 
Il comunicato di star é volutamente molto diplomatico ma ho idea che di fatto i vertici di star hanno sbattuto la porta in faccia ad air india. Tuttavia e anche alla luce di questo rifiuto non capisco ancora come abbiano fatto ad accogliere in star una compagnia scalcinata come ms
 
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