IAG ordinerà 18 A350-1000 (18 opzioni)

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IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet
BY DANIEL MICHAELS AND JON OSTROWER

International Consolidated Airlines Group SA IAG.MC +1.73% could as soon as this week place an order for the new Airbus A350 long-range jetliner for its British Airways unit, according to two people familiar with the talks.

If completed, the deal would be a significant win for the Airbus unit of European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. EAD.FR +0.09% over rival Boeing Co., BA -0.70% which has been trying to persuade IAG to buy a proposed update of its 777 model, dubbed the 777X, intended to compete with the A350.

Boeing hasn't started formally offering the 777X yet—the company needs approval to launch the model from its board. A decision is expected as early as this month. But the Chicago company has provided extensive detail about the updated jet to prospective clients, and has made offers conditional on board approval to sell the plane to airlines and lessors including IAG, Japan Airlines Co., 9201.TO +0.82% Deutsche Lufthansa AG, LHA.XE -0.68% Air Lease Corp. AL -1.47% and Emirates Airline, according to industry officials. Boeing aims to deliver the first new 777 model to customers by late 2019 or early 2020.

"We continue to see IAG as an important customer, and look forward to working with IAG to meet its fleet needs," said Karen Crabtree, Boeing spokeswoman. She said Boeing has been "developing options to improve on the 777's popularity" and that customers are "happy with the airplane design."

Even if IAG orders the A350 for British Airways, Boeing is "not out of the running" for a later order for the 777Xs, said one of the people familiar with the carrier's plans. But another person said that if IAG orders A350s, it wouldn't receive preferential terms on Boeing orders.

Early buyers of a new jetliner model, known as launch customers, generally receive preferential terms and big discounts, potentially exceeding 50% off catalog prices.

Boeing's product development unit was scheduled to meet on Monday with top executives and the company's senior advisory group, which is made up of retired top engineers that designed the company's earlier jetliners. The meeting is an important step in the process of preparing the jet's business model ahead of seeking the board's approval, said two people familiar with the meeting.

British Airways currently has 52 of the existing versions of the long-range 777 that is among Boeing's best-selling planes. The carrier currently flies no Airbus long-range, twin-aisle jetliners but is due soon to receive its first Airbus A380 superjumbo, which it ordered alongside Boeing's 787 Dreamliner in 2007.

The exact number of planes in IAG's A350 order, and its value, are still under negotiation, according to the people familiar with the talks. IAG's talks with Airbus focus on the A350-1000 model, the largest of three A350 versions Airbus is developing and is due in 2017, the people said. The order could also include a smaller, longer-range version, the A350-900, one of these people said.

The purchase of the largest A350 model is likely designed to replace the company's aging fleet of 747-400 aircraft, which were delivered from 1989 to 1999.

An IAG spokeswoman declined to comment on possible orders.

Japan Airlines, which has long operated an all-Boeing fleet, also is weighing a possible order for the A350, one person familiar with the situation said.

"When we look to introduce new planes we weigh all of the options available to us whether it's from Airbus or Boeing. But JAL presently has no specific plans to purchase the Airbus A350," said a JAL spokesman.

IAG was created in 2011 by the merger of British Airways with Spain's Iberia. Iberia's fleet is all Airbus planes. British Airways' short and medium-haul European fleet is all Airbus models and its twin-aisle long-range jets have been Boeing jets for nearly a decade.
 
Re: IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet

Se le cose andranno così si tratterà di un duro colpo per Boeing e il suo 777-9X. Staremo a vedere.
 
Re: IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet

Verosimile che sia una questione anche di tempi. L'A350-1000 sarà verosimilmente disponibile prima del 777X, e BA non può aspettare molto: in caso di ritardi del 777X avrebbe problemi, a fine decennio molti dei suoi 747 saranno a fine carriera.
 
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Re: IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet

Colpo di scena!

A mio parere questo ordine non pregiudica quello, eventuale, per gli A350. I 747 di BA sono tanti e non possono esere sostituiti con i 787. Restano aperti i giochi per l'A350-1000 e il 777-9X. Forse ci sarà spazio per entrambi.
Non mi sorprenderebbe se la futura flotta long range di BA fosse costituita da:

787-8/9
A350-900/1000
777-9X
A380
 
Re: IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet

A mio parere questo ordine non pregiudica quello, eventuale, per gli A350. I 747 di BA sono tanti e non possono esere sostituiti con i 787. Restano aperti i giochi per l'A350-1000 e il 777-9X. Forse ci sarà spazio per entrambi.
Non mi sorprenderebbe se la futura flotta long range di BA fosse costituita da:

787-8/9
A350-900/1000
777-9X
A380

Ho aperto un nuovo thread, scusa.
 
Re: IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet

Come preannunciato venerdì...email appena giunta:


To: All colleagues

From: Keith Williams, Chief Executive

I am very pleased to tell you that IAG has reached agreement with Airbus to make firm orders for 18 Airbus A350-1000 aircraft, and take options for a further 18.

This deal follows our recent announcement of the planned conversion of 18 options for Boeing 787 aircraft into firm orders.

Taken together, these firm orders, which are subject to the approval of IAG shareholders, will allow British Airways to replace 30 of the existing 747 fleet between 2017 and 2023, while the options can be used to replace aircraft or provide opportunities for growth.

Both the A350s and 787s will be powered by Rolls-Royce engines, and a comprehensive maintenance package is included in the engine deal.

The A350 is a new type, which will bring many benefits to our fleet. Its size and range will be a good fit for our existing network. Like the 787, it has fuel costs per seat more than 20 per cent lower than the 747s, so there will be opportunities to operate a new range of destinations profitably.

These orders demonstrate confidence in British Airways’ future, and reinforce our commitment to offer the best possible network and flying experience for our customers.

They also emphasise the vital nature of achieving the objectives of our current business plan, and in particular generating an annual profit of £1.1bn by 2015. Profit is essential to fund investment –and airlines make no bigger investment than in new aircraft.

That is why we are pressing ahead with the priority workstreams that can get us to our 2015 target: developing our joint businesses, making the most of our customer base, making short-haul add value, exploiting the opportunities afforded by new aircraft and the former bmi slots, and being disciplined with our costs. Integral to all of these is providing for our customers the kind of outstanding service that will make them want to fly with us again and again.

Every one of us has a clear part to play in achieving these goals. The renewal of our long-haul fleet begins with the arrival of our first A380s and 787s in the next few months. With today’s important announcement, we have a great opportunity to see further investment come to fruition throughout the next ten years.
 
Re: IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet

A350-1000 per BA. Ci scommettevo. :)
 
Re: IAG Close to Ordering Airbus's New A350 Jet

Lo smacco per Boeing è rilevante. Al momento si profila, nel 2023, una flotta composta da:
12 A380
18+ A350
10 77W
42 787
rimanenti 77E e 744.

Dubito ci sia spazio per aggiungere una flotta di 777X, che non potrebbero essere più di 10/15, soprattutto se gli A350 da 18 diverranno 36 e, forse, se gli A380 diveneranno 15.

Quest'ordine era un po' come le legislative per il PD, piú facile da vincere per Boeing che da perdere. Ma BA è giá rimasta scottata dal 787, purtroppo, e un remake per il 779 non è pensabile.