Heathrow: via libera del governo inglese a terza pista e sesto terminal


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Si avvicina l' approvazione della terza pista a LHR

Secondo diverse fonti della stampa britannica, il governo dovrebbe dare l'autorizzazione alla costruzione della terza pista a LHR entro la settimana prossima.
Se ció fosse vero, nonostante ci vorranno diversi anni prima di avere la pista operativa, nel frattempo verrá aumentato l'attuale limite di 480.000 voli l'anno attraverso l'introduzione delll'utilizzo non segregato delle due piste, ovvero la possibilitá di decollare e atterrare sulla stessa pista.
In questo modo si verranno a creare slot su LHR che al momento non esistono.
La BA sta chiaramente cercando di concentrare tutte le proprie operazioni su LHR per cui, avendone la possibilitá, sposterebbe buona parte dei voli da LGW a LHR, ed in particolar modo quelli che le consentirebbero di vendere prosecuzioni intercontinentali, per cui anche molti di quelli dall'Italia. Soprattutto BLQ e VCE che sono al momento territorio Star e Sky.
Se la decisione dovesse essere presa, il passaggio al mixed mode potrebbe avvenire in maniera molto rapida, presumibilmente a partire dalla prossima stagione invernale. Sará interessante vedere cosa accadrá.
 
Ministers set to back Heathrow expansion

By Jim Pickard, Political Correspondent
Published: January 10 2009 02:21 | Last updated: January 10 2009 02:21

BAA, the owner of Heathrow, is expected to receive government backing next week for a third runway at the west London airport.
Government sources have told the Financial Times that the announcement is to take place mid-week, if it is agreed at a cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.
Although a handful of ministers have serious reservations – including Hilary Benn, the environment secretary, and Ed Miliband, the energy secretary – the project is expected to get the go-ahead.
Gordon Brown, the prime minister, is keen to push ahead with the scheme as part of his Keynesian drive to create jobs by approving new investment in infrastructure projects.
He is likely to promise a rail link from Heathrow to the wider train network in an attempt to reduce the environmental damage caused by the project. If the government approves the expansion it is likely to face a backlash by scores of Labour backbenchers, many of whom believe the project could cost votes in London at the next general election.
It will also be fought bitterly by environmentalists, who are likely to take their challenges to the courts in the coming months.
It is understood that Geoff Hoon, transport secretary, met Mr Brown this week to discuss the project. Mr Hoon has also spoken to some sceptical Labour MPs to try to win them over.
A source close to 10 Downing Street said that no final decision had yet been made. The announcement could still be delayed until later in the month, he said.
Mr Hoon had been expected to confirm the project in December but postponed the decision until the end of January, saying he needed more time to reach “the right conclusion”. He only became transport secretary after Ruth Kelly resigned in early October.
However, Mr Hoon said in the Commons that there was a very strong economic argument for a larger Heathrow, given that the airport had almost reached full capacity.
A consultation over the proposals has received more than 70,000 submissions from the public and from other interested parties.
Justine Greening, Conservative MP for Putney, said that ministers should listen to the thousands of people who opposed the extension. “A huge number of people have said that they don’t want Heathrow expanded,” she said.
Heathrow is the third busiest air hub in the world, last year handling 67m passengers. A third runway would increase its flights by almost a half, from 480,000 to 700,000 a year. Expansion is strongly opposed by thousands of west London residents, who resent the congestion, noise and disturbance caused by the sprawling airport.

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Fast rail hub plan for Heathrow

By George Parker, Political Editor
Published: January 4 2009 16:36 | Last updated: January 4 2009 16:36

An expanded Heathrow airport could be at the heart of a new high-speed rail system, with fast links to the north of England and the rest of Europe through the Channel Tunnel, under plans being drawn up by ministers.
Gordon Brown is expected this month to approve a new third runway at Heathrow, but ministers will try to limit the environmental and political fallout of the decision by proposing improved rail links to the airport.
Andrew Adonis, transport minister, believes a new rail hub would sharply cut the number of air passengers travelling to Heathrow by car, which he says is largely responsible for pollution in the area. He points to figures showing that only 38 per cent of Heathrow passengers in 2007 used public transport to get to the airport.
“I think that is an attractive idea,” he told the Sunday Times. “It’s vital that we have an integrated approach to planning new rail capacity and any new airport capacity that is also required.”
Lord Adonis has held talks with Arup, the civil engineering consultants, who have drawn up detailed proposals for a Heathrow rail hub, and is said to look favourably on their concept.
Under the Arup plan, which it says could be delivered for less than £10bn, a Heathrow international station would the first stop on a north-south high-speed line, connected through a series of tunnels with the existing link to the Channel Tunnel at London’s St Pancras station. Lord Adonis is also considering a potentially cheaper option where the new Heathrow station might be built on a spur of a proposed 200mph bullet train line from London to Manchester.
The new station would also provide access to the existing Great Western main line to Wales, the west and south-west and connect with the new Crossrail service to the City and beyond.
Gordon Brown said last month that the government was drawing up ambitious plans for transport infrastructure to bolster Britain’s competitiveness once the recession is over. But ministers admit the Treasury will take some convincing that such schemes are financially sustainable. Public spending until 2015 is facing a tight squeeze as the government tries to map out a route to sustainable public finances.
Lord Adonis told the Financial Times last week he would expect business and local councils to help pay for the proposed line from London to Manchester.
He would expect companies benefiting from the Heathrow hub plan to make similar contributions. BAA, Heathrow’s owner, would be the most obvious beneficiary.
The Conservatives also support the idea of a Heathrow high-speed rail link. They argue that it would allow air passengers to cities such as Manchester and Leeds to complete their journey by rail, removing the need for a third runway.
But BAA argues that this is a “false choice”. Last year it said: “Even if every flight from Manchester and Leeds/Bradford was replaced by a high-speed rail line then Heathrow would still be operating at 97 per cent capacity.”

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Credo che ne approfittino ora che sono in crisi economica per fare passare un progetto avverso agli ambientalisti, ma che produrrà migliaia di posti di lavoro, sia durante i lavoro, che per il secolo successivo.
 
Una pista in più farebbe crescere di non poco il traffico ad LHR fermo ormai da qualche anno ai 67/68 milioni di passeggeri, certo è che la saturazione della probabilmente futura pista sarà breve... Un passo in più comunque per un aeroporto che ritornerà a respirare
 
airblue ha detto:
Credo che ne approfittino ora che sono in crisi economica per fare passare un progetto avverso agli ambientalisti, ma che produrrà migliaia di posti di lavoro, sia durante i lavoro, che per il secolo successivo.
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Il fatto bizzarro è che è contrario il partito conservatore, che dovrebbe essere pro-business. Il loro leader ha tra i lontani ascendenti un re e in fondo scopiazza il principe Carlo, fa l' aristocratico ambientalista, come a Milano Giulia Maria Crespi e si dà un' aura di uomo indipendente dagli avidi di soldi, anche se poi è figlio, nipote e pronipote di finanzieri.
 
La terza pista sarebbe un sollievo anche per BA: LHR resterebbe l'aeroporto di riferimento di Londra per altri 30 anni, e gli slot attuali più parte dei nuovi le garantirebbero una rendita notevole, mitigando e forse invertendo le criticità finanziarie e strategiche che negli ultimi anni hanno marginalizzato BA.
 
La pista supplementare permetterebbe feed serio da molti più apt europei, treni veloci da Liverpool, Manchester e Birmingham attrarrebbero molti pax che ora volano via Amsterdam.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/15/bbaaviation-theairlineindustry
Heathrow third runway gets go-ahead
Government attaches three environmental conditions to expansion project, as well as announcing high-speed rail link

Dan Milmo, transport correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 January 2009 13.02 GMT


The transport secretary, Geoff Hoon, gave the go-ahead to a third runway and sixth terminal at Heathrow airport today as opponents promised a decade of legal protests and direct action.

Hoon brushed off concerns over the environmental impact of the decision to say that a third runway should be built by 2020, adding 600 flights a day at the west London site and increasing annual passenger numbers through the airport from 66 million to 122 million.

"Doing nothing will damage our economy and will have no impact whatsoever on climate change," he told the Commons.

However the government attached three conditions to the announcement, alongside confirmation that a company will be formed to build a high-speed rail line from London to Birmingham via Heathrow. The three conditions were:

• The third runway will operate at half its capacity when it opens in 2020, raising the total number of flights from 480,000 to 600,000, rather than the 702,000 intended

• Aircraft using the new runway will have to meet strict greenhouse gas emissions standards

• Total carbon emissions from UK aviation must fall below 2005 levels by 2050

"This gives us the toughest climate change regime for aviation anywhere in the world," said Hoon.

The transport secretary also offered a significant concession to local residents and surprised airlines by refusing to introduce a scheduling change known as mixed-mode, which would have increased flights from the existing runways by more than 100 a day. The first flight increase at Heathrow, which is 98.5% full, will now be held back until 2020 at the earliest.

The government gave the runway the go-ahead after deciding that expansion would meet criteria on air and noise pollution and public transport access.

Construction could begin in 2012 if BAA, Heathrow's owner, overcomes a planning inquiry and an expected judicial review of the decision brought by local councils.

The government gave the green light to the £8bn project following a consultation to determine whether the expansion would breach noise and air pollution guidelines. Opponents slammed the announcement. John Stewart, the chair of the Hacan Clearskies anti-runway group, said the decision would unleash a new phase in the battle against Heathrow's expansion.

"The people of west London will be very angry indeed and their anger could spill over into direct action. Despite today's decision, we do not believe ultimately that this is a done deal. Unless Labour wins the next election these plans will never see the light of day," he said.

The village of Sipson and one primary school will be demolished to make way for the third runway, with a further 20 schools exposed to increased noise pollution. A total of around 700 homes will be demolished.

New flight paths will also appear over parts of west London, such as Hammersmith and Paddington.

The Conservatives have pledged to block a third runway if they get in to power and replace the project with a high-speed rail line. The Tories plan to rush through a new aviation policy that would stop the construction of runways at Heathrow and Stansted.

Under a Tory government that policy would have to be given primary consideration by any planning inquiry. A planning application was not expected until 2011, which is six months after the last possible date for a general election and gives a victorious Conservative government time to head off BAA with a new policy.
 
mwoland ha detto:
The Conservatives have pledged to block a third runway if they get in to power and replace the project with a high-speed rail line. The Tories plan to rush through a new aviation policy that would stop the construction of runways at Heathrow and Stansted.

Under a Tory government that policy would have to be given primary consideration by any planning inquiry. A planning application was not expected until 2011, which is six months after the last possible date for a general election and gives a victorious Conservative government time to head off BAA with a new policy.
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A queste condizioni a terza pista ha pochissime possibilità, Cameron sembra avere la vittoria in tasca.

In compenso quelle poste dai laburisti sono concessioni di facciata agli oppositori, compresa la prima che riguarda i primi tempi e non le condizioni a regime.
 
in pratica vogliono costruire un altro aeroporto (pista+terminal) accanto a quello che c'è già e collegando il tutto con qualche km di people mover e taxyways :D
 
Londra, Regno Unito - Lo ha annunciato oggi il segretario ai trasporti Geoff Hoon
(WAPA) - Il segretario ai trasporti britannico Geoff Hoon ha annunciato oggi l’approvazione da parte del governo britannico della costruzione della terza pista per l'aeroporto internazionale di Londra-Heathrow.

Il progetto, del valore di nove miliardi di sterline, prevede la realizzazione entro il 2019/2020 di una pista della lunghezza di oltre 2000 metri a nord delle due esistenti e ad esse parallela.

"Heathrow ci unisce ai mercati in crescita del futuro", ha spiegato il segretario alla Camera dei comuni. Il via libera del governo è una svolta importante, ma la coalizione ambientalista è tutt'altro che intenzionata a cedere. Anche i due principali partiti dell'opposizione avversano il progetto, insieme al sindaco Boris Johnson che ritiene questo nuovo progetto incrementerà l'inquinamento acustico.

I sostenitori della terza pista di Heathrow assicurano che è vitale per mantenere l'aeroporto nel gruppo di élite degli scali mondiali, e affermano che consentirebbe la creazione di 65.000 posti di lavoro. (Avionews)
 
Quanto non li sopporto questi ambientalisti! Anche la gente che intelligentemente costruisce vicino agli aeroporti! Potrebbero donarle quelle casette a spotter bisognosi no? :D
 
Concordo sulle condizioni di facciata ed ho qualche dubbio che dopo essere stati eletti i conservatori possano/vogliano davvero fermare il progetto.

Quanto a questo punto:
mwoland ha detto:
• The third runway will operate at half its capacity when it opens in 2020, raising the total number of flights from 480,000 to 600,000, rather than the 702,000 intended
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a me non sembra una stupidaggiene ma un modo per evitare di ripetere la figuraccia fatta con il T5 ;)
 
Mi spiegate come si fa a metterci 10 anni per costruire una pista di qualche migliaio di metri? hanno impiegato meno tempo nel fare 40 km di tunnel sotto la manica
 
Fox ha detto:
Mi spiegate come si fa a metterci 10 anni per costruire una pista di qualche migliaio di metri? hanno impiegato meno tempo nel fare 40 km di tunnel sotto la manica
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E' il prezzo da pagare alla democrazia, complicato dal fatto che l'opera va costruita in una zona densamente abitata: bisogna preparare il bando per il concorso, ottenere le proposte, selezionare tutti gli appalti, rendere pubblici i progetti perche' ognuno possa dire la sua, con tanto di impatto ambientale e sulla qualita' della vita delle comunita' circostanti... Poi in questo caso bisogna spostare un paese (Sipson) con tutto cio' che ne consegue, demolire tutto quanto, ed infine costruire la pista. La costruzione in se' dovrebbe impiegare non piu' di 8-10 mesi, e' tutto il resto che porta via tanto tempo.
Certo se a Dubai o in Cina decidono di costruire una pista in mezzo al deserto o in mezzo al nulla, non devono chiedere niente a nessuno, i "padroni" decidono, ed in un paio d'anni e' tutto fatto.
 
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