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Ryanair crews’ no-frills idea: Drop the boss

By Pilita Clark, Aerospace Correspondent

Published: September 13 2010 22:25 | Last updated: September 13 2010 22:25

Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary has for years endured complaints from passengers about his famously no-frills Irish airline.

Now a senior Ryanair pilot has taken the rare step of publicly challenging his boss after the outspoken chief executive said he was trying to convince authorities to let his aircraft fly with only one pilot. A flight attendant could do the job of a co-pilot if needed, Mr O’Leary said last week, because “the computer does most of the flying now”.

Captain Morgan Fischer, who trains other pilots at Ryanair’s Marseilles base, says he knows the airline is dedicated to keeping its costs as low as possible, so why not go one better – and replace Mr O’Leary with a junior flight attendant?

“I would propose that Ryanair replace the CEO with a probationary cabin crew member currently earning approximately €13,200 net per annum,” Capt Fischer has written in a letter to the Financial Times, which reported Mr O’Leary’s comments last week.

“Ryanair would benefit by saving millions of euros in salary, benefits and stock options,” the captain said, and there would be no need for approval from the authorities.

Mr O’Leary quibbled with some of Capt Fischer’s numbers but, in characteristically mischievous mode, he effected to agree with some of his points.

“Michael thinks that cabin crew would make a far more attractive CEO than him – this obviously isn’t a very high bar – so we are going to seriously look at the suggestion,” said Stephen McNamara, a Ryan*air spokesman. “After all, if we can train cabin crew to land the plane, it should be no problem training them to do Michael’s job as well.”

Capt Fischer, 41, who has been based in Marseilles for the past five years and has 20 years’ flying experience, mostly with TWA and American Airlines, declined to comment further on Monday.

Mr O’Leary is well known for his ability to generate headlines with eye-catching ideas, from coin-operated lavatories to “fat taxes”. But his thoughts on ditching co-pilots – first raised in a Bloomberg Businessweek interview earlier this month – seem to have struck a sensitive nerve among some.

Ryanair employees have complained to the media in the past, but most have done so anonymously.

Seeing a pilot publicly poke fun at Mr O’Leary, as Capt Fischer has done, is “extremely unique”, said Capt Evan Cullen, president of the Irish Airline Pilots’ Association, who has also written to the FT about Mr O’Leary’s comments.

Capt Cullen was provoked by Mr O’Leary’s suggestion that, in 25 years, Ryanair had had only one pilot who had suffered a heart attack in flight, “and he landed the plane”.

Capt Cullen said Mr O’Leary must have been referring to a 2002 incident in Belgium when a pilot collapsed with a heart attack shortly after take-off from Charleroi airport south of Brussels. A doctor on board who assisted the pilot described him as “clinically dead”, according to a report by Ireland’s Air Accident Investigation Unit, and the co-pilot had to return the aircraft to the airport.

“The safety implications are obvious, as is the reason for having two qualified pilots in the cockpit,” said Capt Cullen.

Mr McNamara said this was not the incident Mr O’Leary had been referring to, “although the fact that the first officer landed the aircraft without incident underlines the fact that a first officer in the cabin, or a suitably-trained cabin crew, could readily land an aircraft in such an emergency”.

He said the issue at stake was that aircraft were now heavily automated, and with more than 500,000 flights a year the second pilot was rarely, if ever, called on to land in an emergency.

Some safety experts dis*agree. “It is true that aircraft are far safer today than ever before and many of the processes have been automated,” said Paul Hayes, air safety director at Ascend aviation consultan*cy. “But in a high work-load situation, say an instrument approach in congested air space or in an emergency, I’d still like to have a pilot and co-pilot working together as a team.”
 
Finalmente ...
stavolta Mo'l ha esagerato soprattutto perchè ha dimostrato di nn capire veramente una mazza di come e perchè vola un aeroplano...in sicurezza.
Finchè si parla di posti in piedi e wc a pagamento,ok.
Ma sulla sicurezza non si scherza,MAI
 
Ryanair:ad, 2° pilota puo' servire drink

(ANSA) - ROMA, 14 SET - 'Due piloti andavano bene negli anni '50: oggi uno di loro potrebbe dare una mano a servire i drink'.

Cosi' l'ad Ryanair. 'Prima era difficile guidare un aereo ma oggi i piloti schiacciano un bottone- ha detto O'Leary - il secondo puo' aiutare a servire drink e panini'. 'Il sorpasso (su Alitalia per numero di passeggeri trasportati in Italia, ndr) sara' nel 2010', ha detto. Schisano, direttore dell'operativo Alitalia replica: Ryanair non e' un nostro modello di riferimento.
 
Venduto a trance sui voli Ryanair?
Mah, gli ha offerto l'occasione di una battuta, e l'ha aiutato a fare ulteriore pubblicità parlando della sua "sparata", tenendola sulle pagine dei giornali e dei notiziari. Gli ha fatto un favore in fin dei conti, quindi che ragione avrebbe MOL di fare rappresaglie? Inoltre si è talmente esposto pubblicamente che sarebbe una brutta pubblicità per MOL prenderlo di mira.
 
Ryanair:ad, 2° pilota puo' servire drink

(ANSA) - ROMA, 14 SET - 'Due piloti andavano bene negli anni '50: oggi uno di loro potrebbe dare una mano a servire i drink'.

Cosi' l'ad Ryanair. 'Prima era difficile guidare un aereo ma oggi i piloti schiacciano un bottone- ha detto O'Leary - il secondo puo' aiutare a servire drink e panini'. 'Il sorpasso (su Alitalia per numero di passeggeri trasportati in Italia, ndr) sara' nel 2010', ha detto. Schisano, direttore dell'operativo Alitalia replica: Ryanair non e' un nostro modello di riferimento.

io lo sapevo che copiava la mia idea... voglio le royaltiesssss :p

http://www.aviazionecivile.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1067081&postcount=105
 
Copilots Could Soon Be Grounded

Embraer pensa in stile MOL... non so se le 2 notizie sono legate o se Embraer ha bisogno di ordini... :D


Too expensive, too heavy and unnecessary: Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer hold copilots in low regard. So, now the company plans to replace them with a computer.

When it comes to the systems found on passenger jets, there's hardly ever just one of them. For example, there are three airspeed indicators and up to five flight computers. It's all about redundancy: If one device fails, another one kicks in.

The same holds true for pilots. And lest bad food put both the pilot and the copilot out of commission at the same time, there's an ironclad rule in the cockpit: Never pick the same meal option.


But if the maverick ideas of a handful of engineers become reality, cockpit redundancy could soon become a thing of the past -- and copilots could be gone in as few as 10 to 15 years.

The Last Taboo at 38,000 Feet

Luiz Sergio Chiessi, vice president for aircraft market intelligence at the Brazilian company Embraer, the world's third-largest manufacturer of commercial aircraft, says: "We believe it is technically possible."

And Flight International, the respected British aerospace weekly, has concluded that Embraer is "the first manufacturer to break cover on the issue of single-pilot crews."

In doing so, Embraer is challenging the cockpit's last remaining taboo. Now that radio operators, navigators and flight engineers have fallen victim to cost-cutting measures, the pilot's right-hand person could also fall by the wayside. Until now, airlines have made only very discreet inquiries about the possibility of having one-pilot cockpits. Even Airbus, the European aircraft manufacturer, has reportedly fielded questions on this issue.

With so many pressures to cut costs, airlines are attracted by the idea of cutting the numbers of such highly paid employees. What's more, the industry's rapid expansion is also threatening to bring about a shortage of pilots. For example, over the next 20 years, the US aircraft manufacturer Boeing predicts that 448,000 new pilots will be needed.

Hubris?

Shortly after Embraer made its bombshell announcement, the Thales Group, one of the world's key manufacturers of aircraft instruments, announced that it was also studying the idea of a one-pilot cockpit. "Of course, the convenient answer is to say 'Forget it; it will never happen,'" Joseph Huysseune, Thales' director of innovation for commercial aircraft, told Flight International. "But, looking far to the horizon," he adds, "we have clever ideas to go in that direction." The French company is conducting a project called "Cockpit 3.0," which involves automating a plane's instruments enough to permit a single pilot to fly it.

To many critics, that sounds like hubris. As they see it, for the foreseeable future, the state of technology won't be able to guarantee the necessary degree of reliability. "The aircraft would have to be able to land on its own should the only pilot in the cockpit be incapacitated," says Dieter Reisinger, director of the Vienna-based Austrian Flight Test Association. Either the aircraft would have to find its way to the next airport on its own, Reisinger adds, or the instruments would have to be operated remotely from the ground "like a model airplane."

Too Much to Master

Given such demands, Embraer and Thales are focusing on a completely novel air-traffic-control architecture currently under development in the United States and Europe. It includes high-performance satellite connections between the aircraft and ground controllers in addition to extremely precise position determination.

Today, airplanes can already automatically touch down on runways with the help of guide beams. But pilots still monitor the entire process. In an emergency situation -- such as when there are strong crosswinds or another aircraft is blocking the runway -- they can step in and take control of the aircraft at any time.

"There are thousands of situations that a human being can creatively master," says Holger Duda of the Braunschweig-based Institute of Flight Systems, part of the German Aerospace Center (DLR). But to get the approval of aviation authorities, he adds, a manufacturer would have to prove that the computers would make the right decisions in all of these situations. And this, Duda believes, is "virtually impossible."

Still, the temptation to halve the size of cockpit crews is great. Officials at Thales speculate that the process could begin with cargo aircraft instead of large airliners. And Embraer, for its part, has its sights set on business jets. The smallest of these -- including its own Phenom 100 and 300 models -- are already approved for only a single pilot. The company has already been able to reduce a pilot's workload on these aircraft, for example, with the checklist. "If you take the checklist of a conventional aircraft," says Embraer's Chiessi, "for every 10 items you have, there are only one or two on the Phenom."

Technical guidance for these changes could also be found in the booming sector of manufacturing unmanned drones, such as those being used by the United States military in Afghanistan and elsewhere.


The View from the Cockpit

Pilots' unions are bracing themselves against this potentially major change. Still, according to Jörg Handwerg, the spokesman for the German pilots' union Cockpit, pilots only account for 4 percent to 5 percent of all aviation costs. "I doubt that it's really worthwhile for the airlines to implement such a complex new system," he says.

In online forums, some of Handwerg's fellow pilots express a more flippant take on Embraer's ambitious plans. For example, one captain writes that the extra pilot could lie on his or her stomach in the cockpit and steer the plane from there so as to "create enough space for another seat in first class."

Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan
 
Ryanair: 'Il sorpasso (su Alitalia per numero di passeggeri trasportati in Italia, ndr) sara' nel 2010', ha detto. Schisano, direttore dell'operativo Alitalia replica: Ryanair non e' un nostro modello di riferimento.

Per Schisano Ryanair potrà anche non essere un modello di riferimento, ma non è comunque un bell'affare. Classica risposta di chi non ha elementi validi con i quali replicare. Povera Ali... Italia :(