LH compra BMI ed Eurowings, Virgin propone alleanza


questa è la domanda più semplice:D

I soldi vengo da anni di ottima gestione e investimenti oculati.

Anche alla grande Swissair i soldi venivano da anni grassi ma poi ha fatto il passo piu grande della gamba coprando tutto .
Si e vista la fine che ha fatto. Brussel Airlines ,Austrian o BMI non e che siano al massimo di salute
 
Anche alla grande Swissair i soldi venivano da anni grassi ma poi ha fatto il passo piu grande della gamba coprando tutto .
Si e vista la fine che ha fatto. Brussel Airlines ,Austrian o BMI non e che siano al massimo di salute

ogni acquisizione comporta pericoli, questo è un dato di fatto.

Per ora l'unico grande acquisto di LH recente di cui è possibile valutare i risultati della gestione totale da parte di LH è Swiss. I adti finanziari di Swiss sono ottimi e dimostrano che fino ad ora è stato un buon investimento.

Un investimento di LH cui si parla poco è il 19% di JetBlue, che non so se stia rispettando le aspettative.
 
In ogni caso da consumatore e passeggero insisto che se Lufthansa comprasse anche il 20% di CAI sarebbe un pericolo per la libera concorrenza. Ci troveremmo davanti ad una compagnia troppo grossa. Mi stupirebbe se la spuntasse anche su CAI senza che l'UE non abbia da ridire... Ora anche la Virgin vuole entrare in Lufthansa!


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/transport/article5037731.ece



From Times Online
October 29, 2008

Virgin proposes tie-up with BMI and Lufthansa

David Robertson

Virgin Atlantic has proposed combining its operations with bmi, the British airline bought by Lufthansa today for €400 million (£318 million), in a deal that could create a European super-carrier.
Lufthansa, the German national airline, now owns 80 per cent of bmi, the former British Midland, and is expected to make a bid for the remaining 20 per cent, which is owned by Scandinavian Airlines (SAS). SAS has put both the stake and itself up for sale.
Virgin Atlantic, the airline owned by Sir Richard Branson, today responded to the purchase of bmi by offering to combine its own operations with bmi.
Virgin's offer was vague but is understood to include either buying bmi from Lufthansa or integrating operations across all three carriers in a partnership that would create Europe’s dominant airline. Lufthansa has expressed no interest in selling bmi and is instead leading a wave of consolidation in the airline sector.
A tie-up with Virgin would allow the German carrier to use the better-known Virgin brand to expand internationally and at Heathrow in particular.
Lufthansa’s acquisition of bmi will make it the second-largest operator out of Heathrow, the world's busiest international airport, behind British Airways.
Its greater presence at Heathrow will allow Lufthansa to challenge BA on the profitable transatlantic routes to the US.
Lufthansa said in a results statement today that Sir Michael Bishop, the chairman of bmi, had exercised an option to sell his 50 per cent plus one share stake in the airline and the deal is expected to complete on January 12.
The option was agreed when Lufthansa bought a 30 per cent stake in bmi in 1999 and the price of Sir Michael's holding was established then.
Both BA and Virgin Atlantic had expressed an interest in buying Sir Michael's stake because bmi controls 12 per cent of Heathrow’s highly prized slots.
Steve Ridgway, the chief executive of Virgin Atlantic, said: “Everyone has speculated that it would make sense for Virgin Atlantic and bmi to combine their long-haul and short-haul networks.
"There is now a major opportunity to do that and create a new, strongly viable competitor to BA. I am sure that Lufthansa realise the future opportunities and this could be a really good example of the right industry consolidation. It would be good for consumers and for UK plc."

The airline industry is undergoing a period of consolidation as carriers struggle with high fuel costs and falling consumer demand.
Lufthansa, BA and Air France-KLM have emerged as the consolidators and are in the process of buying or merging with a number of smaller European airlines.
BA is currently in merger talks with Iberia, the Spanish flag carrier, but the terms of the deal are still to be agreed. The Spanish are pushing for a greater share of the combined company, which could potentially mean BA shareholders lose out.
As a result, the Iberia deal is taking longer than expected to arrange and may collapse completely if the two sides fail to agree.

Lufthansa has made a bid for Austrian Airlines but the sale has been delayed to allow S7, a Russian airline, to make a rival offer.
Lufthansa has made a token bid of €0.01 a share, valuing the carrier at €360,000. It will also take on €400 million of debt but wants the Austrian state to take on the remaining €500 million debt.

Lufthansa has also bought a 45 per cent stake in Brussels Airlines and both it and Air France-KLM are exploring a partnership with Italy’s Alitalia.

In a trading statement released today, Lufthansa reported a 75 per cent drop in net profit in the third quarter. It blamed the fall on high fuel costs and weaker sales because of the global financial crisis. The airline also cut its full-year operating profit target to €1.1 billion from €1.38 billion.
 
Ultima modifica da un moderatore:
Hitler sfilava sugli Champs Elysées, Mayrhuber può al massimo fare un touch and go a CDG
E anche a Schiphol niente blitz, rassegnati :D

Ma non si era beccato nè Londra nè Zurigo :D

@Dreamliner c'è un problema di fondo che sottovaluti: SR quando si era presa OS, SN, ecc, non ne aveva se non sbaglio il controllo: LH invece ha il controllo e decide lei come e cosa fare
 
Virgin Atlantic wants tie-up with bmi

Reuters, Wednesday October 29 2008


By Tim Hepher
PARIS, Oct 29 (Reuters) - Virgin Atlantic pounced on the chance to forge a tie-up with British airline bmi on Wednesday immediately after Germany's Lufthansa announced it was poised to become bmi's majority shareholder.
Virgin Atlantic Chief Executive Steve Ridgway told Reuters bmi would make a good fit with Virgin Atlantic and provide a stronger competitor to Heathrow kingpin British Airways.
"There is a very compelling opportunity for a combination. The two businesses are complementary," he said in an interview.
"We are a long-haul operator and they are predominantly a short-haul carrier. It would improve their performance and increase the competition we are providing in the market."
Ridgway was giving his first reaction to Wednesday's announcement by Lufthansa that bmi's founder Michael Bishop had exercised an option for it to take control of bmi by increasing its stake to 50 percent plus one share starting from January.
Virgin says it has 3 percent slots at Heathrow, London's main airport, while bmi has 12 percent and BA over 40 percent.
Bringing Virgin and bmi together would be good both for Lufthansa and its Star Alliance airlines grouping, he said, adding Bishop's "smart" deal left UK aviation at a crossroads.
"That is the opportunity and I think it could be a good example of how we can, and should, let consolidation happen where you can build better propositions and more vibrant and competing groups," Ridgway said.
Coupling Virgin with bmi would link airlines symbolised by savvy entrepreneurs, Virgin's owner Richard Branson and bmi's Bishop, seen as rivals but sharing a common antipathy towards BA. A deal could crown Virgin's 25th anniversary next June.
Ridgway declined to say whether Virgin Atlantic, which has long coveted a deal with independent-minded bmi, would seek to buy out Lufthansa or seek a three-way deal between them now that Lufthansa holds the cards. SAS owns 20 percent of bmi.
Virgin is 49-percent owned by Singapore Airlines.
While targeting bmi, Ridgway still opposed BA's plans to forge a broad alliance with American Airlines and Spain's Iberia .
"Don't let through consolidation that will be bad for consumers and UK aviation and Europe," he said.
Branson has promised to spend millions of dollars to fight the deal, which he says would stifle competition. BA says it needs to carry out the deal to compete under liberalisation.

BOOKINGS PRESSURE
Ridgway was speaking on the sidelines of a Paris aviation conference as global airlines batten down the hatches for a recession coming on the back of a ruinous spike in oil prices.
More than two dozen carriers have gone bust this year.
Ridgway said passenger numbers on Virgin Atlantic planes had dipped in the past 3 weeks as the crisis worsened.
Virgin flies only long-haul routes and has a market share of about 22 percent on the fiercely contested Heathrow-New York JFK route, heavily used by the financial services industry.
"Right up until 3 weeks ago bookings were running slightly ahead year-on-year on flat capacity. They have fallen very slightly behind since then but are not calamitous and are still within shouting distance. But there's no doubt it is tough."
Global passenger traffic fell 2.9 percent in September in the first monthly decline in 5 years, IATA said last week.
Virgin's tour operator unit has been spared so far.
"We have very good forward booking for summer 2009 but that may be motivated people who are still comfortably off. The acid test will be the crucial January period for leisure travel."
Ridgway said he had no plans to defer or cancel aircraft purchases to shed capacity, having already agreed to push back the arrival of the delayed Airbus A380 superjumbo to 2013.
But he said he was "disappointed and annoyed" over delays to Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, a $200 million lightweight mid-sized airliner designed to save fuel and fly long ranges.
He predicted the 15 planes ordered by Virgin would arrive 2 years late, instead of the 18 months Boeing is predicting.
Ridgway said there had been no movement yet in Virgin's bid to buy London's second airport Gatwick, but said it could be organised around the same group of 7 UK airlines that invested in NATS, the operator of Britain's air traffic control system.
The "Airline Group" consortium owning 42 percent of NATS includes Virgin, BA, bmi and low-cost airline easyJet.
Spanish-owned British airport operator BAA is selling Gatwick after being carpeted in an anti-trust report. (Additional reporting by John Bowker; Editing by Paul Bolding and Hans Peters)
 
Lufthansa ha anche acquisito il pieno controllo di Eurowings.


Lufthansa unterbreitet Kaufangebot für 50,9% an Eurowings

FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--Die Deutsche Lufthansa AG, Frankfurt, plant Veränderungen bei der Fluglinie Eurowings Luftverkehrs AG. Die AK Industriebeteiligung GmbH habe ein unwiderrufliches Kaufangebot von Lufthansa über 50,9% der Eurowings-Aktien angenommen, teilte Deutschlands größte Airline am Mittwoch mit. Diese Aktien würden zum 31. Dezember 2008 auf die Lufthansa oder "einen von ihr zu benennenden Dritten" übergehen. Details nannte die Airline zunächst nicht.
 
Ultima modifica:
In tempo di crisi cadono le pere mature.

Lufthansa aveva firmato l' accordo che le consentiva di rilevare le quote di Bishop nel 1999! Questo indica la sua lungimiranza e non dovrebbe stupire che un loro piano per la brughiera possa richiedere anni per materializzarsi. Certo non è lo stesso stile di Schisano.

Sir Michael Bishop ha 66 anni, è certamente il businessman gay dichiarato più importante in UK, immagino non abbia figli a cui lasciare l' impero, quindi è abbastanza logico che venda ora, all' inizio di un periodo grigio per l' aviazione che potrebbe durare parecchi anni.
 
@Blitz Ameto che le mosse della LH almeno per BMI e i suoi slot di LHR e piu che compressibile ma non vedo una grande differenza dalla SR nel aquisto del SN o OS o anche Eurowings anche avendo il totale controllo
Magari una quota cosi maggioritaria potrebbe essere anche peggio
Sono sicuro che anche se fosse il caso di finire come SR con questi tempi il governo tedesco o un "team" di banche o altro non lo farebbe succedere
 
Guardate cosa viene fuori dalla REuters oggi

October 29, 2008
Lufthansa's fuel hedging for the rest of this year fell after the company lost contracts with Lehman Brothers, which filed for bankruptcy protection in September, the airline said on Wednesday.

Lufthansa said current sentiment in the aviation industry was characterised by uncertainty relating to the financial market crisis and its impact on the real economy.

The German flagship airline said it expected demand for passenger air travel to be subdued for the rest of the year. To help offset the impact of falling passenger numbers, the airline said it would further reduce the number of flights it offers.

Full-year revenue would nonetheless rise from last year's level.

Lufthansa's hedging rate for the rest of the year stood at 72 percent, compared with a previous rate of 85 percent, the company said in a statement.

Airlines use hedging to protect themselves against sharp rises in jet fuel costs, one of their biggest expenses. Lufthansa's fuel costs in the first nine months rose 48.9 percent from the year-earlier period.

Lufthansa cut its full-year operating profit target on Tuesday, citing high fuel prices and the impact of the global financial crisis. It said it now expected operating profit of about EUR1.1 billion euros compared with a previous estimate of around last year's level of EUR1.38 billion.

Sluggish consumer spending has chipped away airlines' profitability, although easing oil prices promise to take pressure off their massive fuel bills.

Rivals Air France-KLM and Austrian Airlines have both issued profit warning in the past two weeks.

(Reuters)
 
Probabilmente prenderanno anche SAS, Sterling non servirebbe al Risiko.

@dreamliner

Lufthansa ha un handicap rispetto a BA e AF, non ha il dominio di un mercato base enorme come Londra o Parigi, dunque deve raccattare e mettere insieme tanti mercati minori. Swissair non aveva mai creato una singola organizzazione dai vettori comprati, era solo una collezione di (cattive) partecipazioni finanziarie. Prima dei Trattati Bilaterali UE-Svizzera Swissair non poteva acquisire il controllo di nessun vettore UE.


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