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Shogun

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Mi permetto di intervenire quotando questo messaggio e facendo notare che bisogna considerare anche quanti A330-200/300 Airbus ha venduto da quando é stato lanciato il 787.
Da qualche parte ho letto che Airbus, vuoi anche per i ritardi del 787 ma anche in gran parte per i continui miglioramenti del modello, ha venduto piu A330 da quando é stato lanciato il 787 che prima.
Volevo farlo notare anch'io, però è un'osservazione alla quale si potrebbe obiettare facilmente inserendo nell'elenco anche gli ordini raccolti dal 777 dal lancio dell'A350 in poi.
 

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Volevo farlo notare anch'io, però è un'osservazione alla quale si potrebbe obiettare facilmente inserendo nell'elenco anche gli ordini raccolti dal 777 dal lancio dell'A350 in poi.
E´ vero, é per questo che ritengo che questo tipo di classifiche su chi vende di piu sia poco rappresentativo della realtá dei fatti.
Il 777-300ER ha continuato fino ad un po di tempo fa a vendere parecchio, anche in presenza dell´offerta di Airbus con l´A350-1000.
Tuttavia l´A350-1000 entrerá in servizio verso la fine del 2017 mentre il 777-300ER non sta ricevendo piu molti ordini da un po di tempo, visto che chi ne aveva bisogno lo ha giá ricevuto o lo sta ricevendo e chi pensa di averne bisogno in futuro guarda all´A350-1000 o al 777X.
 

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Qualche notizia in più sul 350-1000 allungato (ufficiosamente 350-8000). Sembra confermato l'aumento di MTOW e potenza motori.

Exclusive - Airbus touts 400-seat 'A350-8000' jetliner

PHOENIX | BY TIM HEPHER

Airbus (AIR.PA) is seeking airline support for a new 400-seat jetliner provisionally dubbed the A350-8000 as competition escalates with Boeing (BA.N) over the world's largest two-engined jets, airline and aviation industry sources said.
After talking up the possibility of a new member of its A350 family, the European planemaker has swung into an active pre-marketing phase as it responds to a recent upgrade in the competing Boeing 777.
While Boeing has scored successes in the Gulf with its biggest-ever twin-engined jet, the 406-seat 777-9, Airbus is expected to aim its design at airlines that do not always require the performance needed for extreme Gulf conditions.
"It would have similar capacity and range (as the 777-9) and substantially lower seat-mile costs," Airbus sales chief John Leahy said in an interview on the sidelines of the Istat Americas air finance conference.
"We are showing it to airlines right now."
The project is the latest move in a game of leapfrog played by Airbus and Boeing over the past decade in the market for big twinjets, valued at about $1.9 trillion over 20 years.
It marks a shift in priorities after the oil price collapse eased pressure on Airbus to upgrade its larger four-engined A380, the output of which is declining because of slow sales.
Two airlines whose stance could be decisive in whether Airbus launches the new jet are Singapore Airlines (SIAL.SI) and British Airways (ICAG.L).
Singapore took delivery of its first smaller A350-900 model this week and has long been weighing up the 777-9.
Both airlines declined to comment.
In Singapore, where Airbus' planemaking president, Fabrice Bregier, stopped over on Thursday after a China visit, a company spokesman declined to comment.
The A350 XWB (Extra Wide Body) family was launched after a string of setbacks in 2006 to compete with Boeing's mid-sized 787 Dreamliner and the larger 777.
Boeing responded to the all-new jet by upgrading its existing 777 family to include the 777-9, one of a pair of jets also known as the 777X series.
Boeing has sold 306 777X jets. But after an initial burst, sales have hit a lean patch. Airbus has sold 181 A350-1000s.
KEY DECISIONS
The new, bigger A350 would use a derivative of the latest Rolls-Royce (RR.L) Trent XWB planned for the A350-1000. One person briefed on the plans said it would boost thrust to just over 100,000 pounds from the current 97,000.
Airbus believes that would compete well for a large majority of the industry's needs and eclipse the heavier 777X.
Boeing dismissed the proposal.
"We’re not surprised that Airbus is attempting to fill a hole in its product lineup after losing market share to the 777X. At the end of the day, we’ll still have the better airplane," Marketing Vice-President Randy Tinseth told Reuters.
Some analysts said a key to the project would be how easily Rolls-Royce could expand a full slate of projects, even without pushing performance to the limits needed by Mideast carriers.
"This sounds like they are making a virtue of its lack of hot-and-high performance compared to 777-9 when maybe it’s the case that Rolls can’t afford, or doesn’t want to, do a much bigger and substantially new engine," said Nick Cunningham of UK-based Agency Partners.
One engine expert estimated the upgrade could cost half a billion dollars and require a bigger fan and new materials.
Rolls-Royce was not immediately available for comment.
To give the new jet enough capacity and range, Airbus would boost the maximum takeoff weight to just over 319 tonnes from 308 tonnes on the A350-1000, the person briefed on the plans said.
But it would sacrifice some range compared with the 8,000-mile A350-1000.
Airbus says it has not made a final decision on whether to launch a new A350 and will provide an update at the Farnborough Airshow in July.
It has been weighing what to call the new member of the A350 XWB family, reflecting deeper decisions on market positioning that can affect billions of dollars in sales.
It needs to strike a balance between protecting sales of the A350-1000, by emphasizing what is new, without weakening its long-held mantra of commonality between related aircraft.
Until now, the possible new model was widely known in the industry as the A350-1100, continuing a sequence from the 276-seat A350-800 to the 315-seat A350-900 and 366-seat A350-1000.
Sources now say it is being pre-marketed with a surprise new identity, the A350-8000, although a final decision has yet to be taken. An earlier working title was A350-1000 XL.
Leahy confirmed Airbus was reluctant to call it A350-1100.
"You don't want it so close to the 1000 that it is an either-or decision. You have the 1000 and another airplane, with equal gaps of 40 seats between the 900 and 1000 (models), and then whatever this becomes."
Eight is a number widely used by planemakers and is seen as a symbol of success in a key battleground for sales: Asia.
"Eight is a very nice number out in Asia, but we are not going to comment until we launch the program," Leahy said.
If the name is confirmed, Airbus will be hoping to bury any association with the last jet to use the 8000 model code: a VIP version of its A340, only one of which was ever built.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-airbus-a-idUKKCN0W51ZY

 

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Primo revenue flight internazionale per il 350 TAM - atterrato ieri mattina a MIA da GRU.


Brazil’s TAM has operated its first Airbus A350 international flight, with service to Miami that landed this morning.
The aircraft arrived to a water cannon salute after a flight from Sao Paulo Guarulhos. It will return to Sao Paulo later this evening.



TAM operated its first A350 revenue service in February, with service between Sao Paulo and Manaus. It took delivery of the aircraft in December 2015. TAM has said it plans to operate the type to Madrid in April, followed by New York John F Kennedy and Orlando in July.
The subsidiary of LATAM Airlines Group holds orders for 27 A350s, comprising 15 A350-900s and 12 A350-1000s, that will be delivered through 2021. Its A350-900s are configured with 348 seats on board - 30 in business class and 318 in economy.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...perates-first-a350-international-flig-423242/
 

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Le prime rotte per LH dovrebbero essere BOS e DEL
Lufthansa discloses initial routes and layout for A350

Lufthansa has tentatively selected Boston and Delhi as the initial routes on which to deploy its Airbus A350-900s.

The airline had previously indicated that it would receive the aircraft towards the end of 2016, although its latest schedule says the aircraft will be stationed at Munich from January 2017.
Lufthansa is taking 10 A350s for its secondary hub.
It has detailed the configuration for the A350s, which will have a 293-seat layout in three classes.
The aircraft will be fitted with 48 business-class seats plus 21 in premium-economy and 224 in economy.
Star Alliance member Lufthansa says the “likely” initial destinations are the US city of Boston and the Indian capital Delhi.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...oses-initial-routes-and-layout-for-a3-423644/
 

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Airbus modified the thrust-reverser actuation system of production A350-900s after a failure of a locking mechanism on an in-service aircraft.
 

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Philippine Airlines finalizza l’ordine per gli A350 XWB
Le future ammiraglie della flotta di lungo raggio opereranno su USA ed EuropaPhilippine Airlines (PAL) ha finalizzato un accordo con Airbus per un ordine fermo di sei A350-900, più sei opzioni. L’accordo conferma una Lettera d’Intenti (MoU) annunciata agli inizi dell’anno in occasione del Salone dell’Aviazione di Singapore.L’A350 XWB diventerà il fiore all’occhiello della futura flotta di lungo raggio di PAL e sarà configurato in tre classi premium. Il vettore opererà questi aeromobili sui voli senza scalo verso gli Stati Uniti e verso nuove destinazioni in Europa.L’A350 XWB è l’ultimissimo membro della famiglia di aeromobili widebody di Airbus. L’aeromobile è dotato del design più moderno e aerodinamico, fusoliera e ali in fibra di carbonio, e motori a basso consumo Trent XWB di Rolls-Royce. Insieme, queste tecnologie portano a una riduzione del 25% dei consumi di carburante e delle emissioni, e costi di manutenzione significativamente ridotti. Per i passeggeri, la cabina più larga garantisce maggiore spazio in tutte le classi e poltrone della larghezza standard di 18 pollici in classe economy.A oggi Airbus ha registrato un totale di 783 ordini fermi per l’A350 XWB da parte di 42 clienti nel mondo, che lo hanno reso uno dei widebody di maggiore successo di sempre
 

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China Eastern Airlines ordina 20 Airbus A350 XWB
Salgono a oltre 800 gli ordini fermi per l’Airbus A350 XWBChina Eastern Airlines ha siglato con Airbus un ordine per l’acquisto di 20 aeromobili A350-900, diventando l’ultimo vettore in ordine di tempo ad acquistare questo modello.“L’introduzione dell’ultima generazione di A350 XWB dimostra che la partnership fra China Eastern Airlines e Airbus ha raggiunto una nuova fase. L’introduzione degli A350 XWB giocherà un ruolo determinante nella promozione della nostra capacità operativa, redditività e servizio sui nostri voli internazionali di lungo raggio e aprirà un nuovo capitolo nello sviluppo internazionale di China Eastern Airlines”, ha dichiarato Liu Shaoyong, Chairman di China Eastern Airlines.“E’ per noi un motivo d’orgoglio dare il benvenuto a China Eastern Airlines, un partner fedele e di lunga data, che diventa l’ultimo vettore in ordine di tempo a scegliere l’A350 XWB”, ha dichiarato John Leahy, COO Clienti di Airbus. “L’eccezionale performance dell’A350 sul lungo raggio, l’efficienza in termini di consumi di carburante e il confort dei passeggeri dato dalla cabina più larga e dai sedili più ampi consentiranno a China Eastern Airlines di raggiungere il proprio obiettivo di sviluppare ed espandere in maniera efficiente la propria rete di collegamenti internazionali.”China Eastern Airlines opera una delle più grandi flotte Airbus nel mondo con quasi 300 aeromobili Airbus in servizio, della Famiglia A320 e A330.L’A350 XWB è l’ultimissimo membro della famiglia di aeromobili widebody di Airbus. L’aeromobile è dotato del design più moderno e aerodinamico, fusoliera e ali in fibra di carbonio, e motori a basso consumo Trent XWB di Rolls-Royce. Insieme, queste tecnologie portano a una riduzione del 25% dei consumi di carburante e delle emissioni, e costi di manutenzione significativamente ridotti. Per i passeggeri, la cabina più larga garantisce maggiore spazio in tutte le classi e poltrone della larghezza standard di 18 pollici in classe economy.Con questo nuovo ordine, Airbus registra un totale di 803 ordini fermi per l’A350 XWB da parte di 43 clienti nel mondo, che lo hanno reso uno dei widebody di maggiore successo di sempre. A oggi, 20 A350 XWB sono stati consegnati a cinque clienti nel mondo
 

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Singapore Airlines Adds A350 Service to Johannesburg from June 2016

Singapore Airlines on Thursday (26MAY16) has made further changes to planned South Africa operation, as it plans to introduce Airbus A350-900XWB operations. The A350 will begin operating on 3 weekly Singapore – Johannesburg flights, effective 27JUN16, replacing 777-200ER.

SQ478 SIN0210 – 0655JNB 359 146
SQ479 JNB1345 – 0610+1SIN 359 146

The 4 weekly Singapore – Johannesburg – Cape Town service continues to see Boeing 777 operation for the time being, switching from -200ER to -300ER from 15JUL16.

Additionally, SIA’s A350 aircraft will once again operates Singapore – Hong Kong and Singapore – Kuala Lumpur route from 28JUN16 on Day x146 operating on SQ890/891 and SQ118/119 service.

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LATAM Brazil Plans A350 Paris Service from Jan 2017

LATAM Airlines Brazil starting January 2017 plans to launch Airbus A350-900XWB operations on Sao Paulo Guarulhos – Paris CDG route, its 2nd A350 operating route to Europe. From 16JAN17, the A350 will operate on alternating day basis with the 777-300ER, and gradually moves to daily operation from 01FEB17.

JJ8108 GRU2235 – 1255+1CDG 350 D
JJ8101 CDG2100 – 0545+1GRU 350 D

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su e giu' sull'atlantico...
Posto qui la notizia di questo "problemino" che proprio "...ino" non mi sembra, ma magari mi sbaglio e lascio al buon Rick un'eventuale disamina tecnica.
Pensare che non sia riuscito a lasciare la RWY e neppure a ritirare la biancheria stesa mi lascia infatti l'idea che fatto l'atterraggio non ce n'era per altro...o no?
Anyway, e' tutto ok...ma insomma!

http://avherald.com/h?article=499f3217&opt=0
ci sono anche un paio di foto

Incident: Singapore A359 at Singapore on Jun 18th 2016, hydraulic failure

By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Jun 18th 2016 21:05Z, last updated Sunday, Jun 19th 2016 08:05Z
A Singapore Airlines Airbus A350-900, registration 9V-SMC performing flight SQ-323 from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to Singapore (Singapore), was descending towards Singapore, when the crew requested a tow to be ready for landing advising they would not be able to vacate the runway. The aircraft landed on Singapore's runway 20C, braked firmly and came to a stop about 2100 meters down the runway, but was unable to vacate the runway. The aircraft was towed to the apron about 20 minutes later. In the meantime all landing traffic was using runway 20R.

A passenger reported the captain announced after the aircraft came to a stop that they had suffered a hydraulic failure, were unable to vacate the runway and needed to be towed off the runway. The flaps remained extended, a number of spoilers also remained extended while others retracted.


ps: all'inizio del Thread (anno 2010!0 ho notato un paio di commenti che davano in arrivo in AZ tipo 12 A350 dal 2014.... se, vabbe'!!!!!
 

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Posto qui la notizia di questo "problemino" che proprio "...ino" non mi sembra, ma magari mi sbaglio e lascio al buon Rick un'eventuale disamina tecnica.
Pensare che non sia riuscito a lasciare la RWY e neppure a ritirare la biancheria stesa mi lascia infatti l'idea che fatto l'atterraggio non ce n'era per altro...o no?
Anyway, e' tutto ok...ma insomma!

http://avherald.com/h?article=499f3217&opt=0
ci sono anche un paio di foto

Incident: Singapore A359 at Singapore on Jun 18th 2016, hydraulic failure

By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Jun 18th 2016 21:05Z, last updated Sunday, Jun 19th 2016 08:05Z
A Singapore Airlines Airbus A350-900, registration 9V-SMC performing flight SQ-323 from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to Singapore (Singapore), was descending towards Singapore, when the crew requested a tow to be ready for landing advising they would not be able to vacate the runway. The aircraft landed on Singapore's runway 20C, braked firmly and came to a stop about 2100 meters down the runway, but was unable to vacate the runway. The aircraft was towed to the apron about 20 minutes later. In the meantime all landing traffic was using runway 20R.

A passenger reported the captain announced after the aircraft came to a stop that they had suffered a hydraulic failure, were unable to vacate the runway and needed to be towed off the runway. The flaps remained extended, a number of spoilers also remained extended while others retracted.


ps: all'inizio del Thread (anno 2010!0 ho notato un paio di commenti che davano in arrivo in AZ tipo 12 A350 dal 2014.... se, vabbe'!!!!!
In realtà l'ordine di Toto non è mai stato preso in carico da AZ e fu poi cancellato da Toto alcuni anni dopo.