A New Air Force One


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Non dobbiamo focalizzarci su ora... ma ormai i progetti hanno vite utili di decenni.
E' difficile immaginare che Boeing, che dal 2019-20 disporrà del super efficiente 779, si vada ad imbarcare nella costruzione ex novo di un aereo nella classe dei 500 posti.
In fondo l'aereo più grande dopo l'A380 ce l'avrà già in casa. E di A380, vediamo tutti quanto sia difficile piazzarne.
Se arrivasse un competitor, probabilmente sarebbe un bagno di sangue per entrambe le aziende.
Che se sono furbe, continueranno a spartirsi il mercato come ora: il pax più grande ad Airbus ed i merci più grandi a Boeing. Con grande gioia per i rispettivi bilanci.
Venendo al futuro AFone, secondo me andrebbe più che altro immaginato come una piattaforma volante della presidenza con tutte le sue necessità. Che possono andare dalla sicurezza (i 4 motori sono senz'altro un plus), alla capacità di carico (sia volume che peso), alla nazionalità americana politicamente obbligatoria.
E' evidente che il 748 è e sarà l'aereo USA che disporrà al meglio di queste caratteristiche intorno al 2020.
Le esperienze recenti sembrerebbero non concedere spazio a macchine relativamente poco collaudate (vedi l'attuale AFone, o il 767 tanker) e l'unico competitor interno, il 779, potrebbe essere ancora troppo acerbo per quel ruolo. E di certo all'USAF non vogliono l'incombenza di gestire i tipici problemi di gioventù di una macchina nuova in un contesto così sensibile come il volo presidenziale.
Qui i costi, i consumi o le mode non sono un problema. Avere una macchina non iperaffidabile invece lo sarebbe.
Forse se il 779 fosse stato operativo intorno al 2015 e fosse stato richiesto per sostituire i VC-25 7-8 anni dopo, qualche ragionamento lo si sarebbe potuto fare, ma sarebbe stata comunque dura. Come piattaforma è senz'altro più efficiente del 748 e anche politicamente lo si sarebbe potuto spendere, ma le caratteristiche prioritarie elencate sopra, vedrebbero comunque prevalere il quadrigetto.
In fondo l'idea che tra 30-35 anni il presidente USA voli su di un aereo che allora sarà percepito da tutti come un autentico pezzo da museo, non dovrebbe essere troppo allettante nemmeno per gli stessi americani.
Ma se i tempi sono quelli indicati, a meno di non considerare il 77W (che imho è troppo piccolo), la scelta sarà obbligata.
 

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Air Force picks Boeing 747-8 to replace Air Force One

(Reuters) - The U.S. Air Force said on Wednesday it would use Boeing Co's commercial 747-8 airliner to replace its current fleet of two Air Force One presidential aircraft, one of the most visible symbols of the United States.

The decision comes a month after Boeing said it would slow production of the four-engine 747-8 aircraft to 1.3 a month from 1.5 a month because of declining orders.

"The Boeing 747-8 is the only aircraft manufactured in the United States (that) when fully missionized meets the necessary capabilities established to execute the presidential support mission," said Air Force Secretary Deborah James in a statement.

Boeing welcomed the Air Force's decision to skip a competition and opt for the 747-8, citing its 50-year history of building presidential aircraft.

The Air Force said it intended to award a sole source contract to Boeing, but they must still negotiate a contract and the modifications needed to adapt the jet for presidential use.

The Air Force now operates two VC-25s, specially configured Boeing 747-200Bs. Details about the new contract, including cost, were not released.

It said it planned to purchase enough of the technical baseline to permit competition for maintenance during the plane's planned 30-year life.

James said the Air Force One program would use proven technologies and commercially certified equipment to keep the program affordable.

The Air Force decision was widely expected since the only other suitable four-engine jet is the A380 built by Airbus in Toulouse, France.

The 747-8 is the only four-engine commercial jet Boeing makes, providing an extra margin of flight safety over the more standard twin-engine planes.

But the Air Force order for a few 747s might not extend the life of the 747 program, which has failed to capture much business in recent years.

Boeing was clearly trying to preserve production so it could fill the Air Force order, said Richard Aboulafia, an analyst at Teal Group in Fairfax, Virginia.

Now that the firm order is there, he said, it might be an opportunity for the program to end.

The double-decker plane entered service in 1970, undergoing a major overhaul in 2012, with new engines and a longer fuselage.

But last year, Boeing did not get orders for 747s, despite booking a record 1,432 net orders for commercial aircraft. At the end of 2014, Boeing had 36 unfilled orders for the plane, which lists at about $370 million.

(Reporting by Andrea Shalal and Alwyn Scott; Editing by Sandra Maler and Gunna Dickson)
 

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Secondo me si appresta ad essere la presidenza più divertente della storia americana. Civiltà precolombiane comprese.
 

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In effetti però, pur essendo quello un aeroplanino particolare, quattro miliarducoli mi sembrano un po' tantini.

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I due esemplari prescelti dovrebbero essere gli ex Transaero attualmente in storage a Victorville.

Boeing, U.S. Air Force Confirm New Air Force One Negotiations

by Bill Carey
- August 1, 2017, 4:54 PM

Boeing and the U.S. Air Force confirmed a report that they are negotiating the sale of two Boeing 747-8s formerly destined for bankrupt Russian carrier Transaero to serve as Air Force One, the presidential transport. Before taking office in January, President Donald Trump criticized the cost of the service’s Presidential Aircraft Recapitalization program, which apparently led to the talks.
Defense One reported on August 1 that the Air Force and Boeing are negotiating over two 747-8s being stored at Southern California Logistics Airport in Victorville, California. Those had been ordered by Transaero, which ceased operations in October 2015.
“We’re working through the final stages of coordination to purchase two commercial 747-8 aircraft and to award a contract soon,” Air Force spokeswoman Ann Stefanek said in an emailed statement, confirming the report. Boeing issued the following statement: “We’re still working toward a deal to provide two 747-8s to the Air Force. This deal is focused on providing a great value for the Air Force and the best price for the taxpayer.”
Asked about the pending sale during the daily White House briefing, press secretary Sarah Sanders said she could not confirm the report.
The Air Force currently operates two modified Boeing 747-200Bs, designated as VC-25As, when carrying the President. In January 2015, the service selected the Boeing 747-8 to serve as the new Air Force One under the Presidential Aircraft Recapitalization Program.
As president-elect in December, Trump called for cancelling the recapitalization program, saying in a tweet that its cost was “out of control.” Trump claimed the program would cost “more than $4 billion.” Fact-checking website PolitiFact later estimated that developing, testing and building two heavily modified Presidential 747-8s would cost $3.73 billion over 12 years.
The list price of a Boeing 747-8 is $387 million, according to the manufacturer. In its Fiscal Year 2018 budget submission, the Air Force requested $434 million in research, development, test and evaluation funding for the recapitalization program; the service seeks $3.1 billion in funding through 2022.

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...-force-confirm-new-air-force-one-negotiations
 

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Due aerei costruiti per una compagnia russa potrebbero diventare i futuri mezzi di trasporto presidenziali americani: bello smacco ci fosse ancora la Guerra Fredda! ... o forse siamo ancora in tempo? :D
 

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Air Force awards contract for two 747-8s to be modified as future Air Force One aircraft

Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs / Published August 04, 2017


WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- The Air Force awarded a Boeing contract modification Aug. 4, 2017, to purchase two commercial 747-8 aircraft for future modification to replace the two aging VC-25A Boeing 747-200 presidential support aircraft.

This contract modification follows a set of awards in 2016 for risk reduction activities. The Air Force has already requested Boeing to provide proposals to design, modify, test and field two Presidential mission-ready aircraft. These efforts will be awarded via future contract modifications. The program expects to begin aircraft modifications in 2019 and reach initial operational capability in 2024.

"This award is a significant step toward ensuring an overall affordable program," said Ms. Darlene Costello, the principal deputy assistant secretary of the Air Force for acquisition. "As we move forward, we will continue to seek and implement cost savings opportunities."

These aircraft will start providing worldwide presidential airlift support in 2024, after a series of modifications and tests. Boeing will modify their Federal Aviation Administration-certified commercial 747-8 aircraft to meet presidential operational requirements to help ensure an affordable program.

In March 2017, following a series of requirements reviews, the White House reaffirmed the minimum set of requirements necessary to meet presidential mission needs. The modifications to the aircraft will include incorporating a mission communications system, electrical power upgrades, a medical facility, an executive interior, a self-defense system and autonomous ground operations capabilities.


"Purchasing these aircraft is a huge step toward replacing the aging VC-25As," said Maj. Gen. Duke Richardson, the Presidential Airlift Recapitalization program executive officer. "This award keeps us on track to modify and test the aircraft to become presidential mission-ready by 2024."

Since the aircraft were purchased through commercial contracting procedures, price and other related details are commercial-competition sensitive, meaning the negotiated price paid is not releasable. However, the price will be part of the overall program cost baseline once set and will be released in accordance with the contract publication requirements.