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Brexit: EU says British citizens will not need visas to visit member states in event of no-deal

European Commission recommends UK be placed on visa-exempt list of countries

British travellers will not need visas to visit the European Union for short stays even if there is a no-deal Brexit, the European Commission has said.

Commissioners made the recommendation to put the UK on the visa-exempt list at a meeting in Strasbourg on Tuesday. The policy is dependent on the UK continuing to offer reciprocal visa-free access for EU citizens.

Travel advice issued by the Commission says: “The European Commission has proposed to the EU legislator to exempt UK nationals from visa requirements for short-term stays”.

The decision is still technically subject to confirmation by member states but is very unlikely to be overturned.

The EU puts all countries on either a visa exempt list or a visa required list. Visa policy is coordinated for the whole Schengen passportless area.

British travellers could still be inconvenienced by Brexit because the EU is planning to bring in a system where countries outside the bloc will need to apply for an electronic travel authorisation in advance, even if they are visa-exempt.

Etias – the EU Travel Information and Authorisation System – is modelled on the US Esta system and is being introduced on security grounds.

To what extent British citizens will have the right to work in the EU or move there long-term are separate to the question of travel visas; these questions will be settled as part of the future relationship negotiations between the EU and UK, expected to commence next year.

The move on visas is part of the EU's intensified planning for a possible no-deal Brexit. In a statement, the European Commission said: “The European Commission has today proposed to grant UK citizens visa-free travel to the EU after the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union.

“It would mean that UK citizens would not need a visa when travelling to the Schengen area for short stays of up to 90 days in any 180-day period. In the scenario where the UK leaves the EU without a deal, this would apply as of 30 March 2019. If a deal is reached, however, it would apply as of the end of the transition period, as outlined in the Withdrawal Agreement. This follows the Commission's continued commitment that citizens' rights must come first in the negotiations on the UK's withdrawal from the EU.

“This proposal is entirely conditional upon the UK also granting reciprocal and non-discriminatory visa-free travel for all EU Member States, in line with the principle of visa reciprocity. The UK government has declared its intention not to require a visa from citizens of the EU27 Member States for shorts stays for the purposes of tourism and business. EU rules on non-EU nationals travelling to the EU, such as those on border control, would of course apply to UK citizens once they are no longer EU citizens.”

The visa-free policy covers the 22 EU member countries that are members of the Schengen area and the four Schengen-associated States – Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland. It will also apply to Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia and Cyprus, which are outside Schengen but coordinate their policies with it.

The advice issued by the Commission says holders of British driving licences may need a “green card” to drive in EU countries, and that they should check with the country they are visiting to see whether an international permit is required.

EU passenger rights to information, reimbursement, or compensation will also no longer apply to UK flights and carriers, as well as much sea, bus and rail travel.

The Commission also says the European Health Insurance Card will no longer give UK citizens rights to reciprocal healthcare when abroad and that travellers should make arrangements to get private insurance.

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Brexit Britain close to agreeing open skies deal with US

Agreement falls short of current EU arrangements but will protect carriers from ownership problems
The agreement is expected to include a clause on ownership that potentially poses problems for UK-based carriers such as Virgin Atlantic

The US and UK are close to finalising an open skies aviation agreement, which falls short of current EU arrangements but will protect British carriers from ownership problems after Brexit.
Negotiators for the two sides are meeting on Wednesday in Washington for what they expect to be the final round of talks on the wide-ranging air services agreement, according to two people briefed on the talks.
If confirmed, the deal would provide continuity for UK and US-based carriers when Britain leaves the EU-US open skies treaty after Brexit, which underpins the busy transatlantic flight corridor.
But the draft terms are inferior to the rights the UK enjoys as an EU member, with tighter restrictions on ownership, tougher terms for new entrants and no special access to the Fly America programme, which allocates tickets for US government employees.
UK transport secretary Chris Grayling could fly to the US as soon as this weekend if agreement is reached and domestic politics allow.
Sean Kennedy, vice-president of government affairs at Airlines for America, which represents some of America’s biggest airlines, said “we are cautiously optimistic that a deal is within reach.
“We wanted to make sure that aviation was given the importance is deserves and that travellers and shippers would have certainty and confidence that Brexit should not affect their plans to travel to the UK or to the EU via the UK.”
The EU-US open skies agreement was the most liberal ever agreed by Washington. By contrast, the draft UK text closely follows the US’s template for agreements with individual countries, including a clause on ownership that poses problems for UK-based carriers such as British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and Norwegian.
This provision says airlines must have “substantial ownership and effective control” by UK or US nationals, an eligibility condition that would have ruled out British carriers because of their substantial foreign shareholdings.
To address this issue British negotiators secured an annex “grandfathering” flying rights for UK airlines covered by the existing EU-US deal, avoiding immediate questions of ownership. But if the carriers change their ownership or control in future, their eligibility would depend on a review by US authorities — a restriction London had opposed in talks.
The rules would also create an obstacle to the development of the UK airline market, since they create barriers to new entrants offering UK-US transatlantic flights if they are not majority owned by British shareholders. This could prevent airlines such as Ryanair and easyJet from launching these services.
The agreement will enter into force at some point after the UK leaves the EU on March 29, but it could be the end of the transition period, which will run to as late as December 2022.
IAG, which owns BA, said: “We have every confidence that the US and UK will sign a deal that it is in everyone’s interests. All parties have a shared interest in ensuring that existing rights continue under new bilateral arrangements. This allows airlines on both sides of the Atlantic to operate existing services and seek to develop new ones.”
John Byerly, the head US aviation negotiator from 2001 to 2010, said the agreement was “not perfect” but added: “What matters most is that the agreement, if finalised on November 28, will provide stability and planning certainty to US and UK airlines amid the severe turbulence of Brexit. The focus will now shift to securing equivalent certainty in the post-Brexit EU-UK market.” Mr Byerly helped to negotiate the original US-EU open skies agreement.
The agreement would solve one problem for IAG, however it may still face ownership difficulties in Europe depending on the shape of a post-Brexit EU-UK deal.
The European Commission has warned IAG that, after Brexit, the airline will fall short of the requirement that airline groups are 50 per cent EU owned and controlled to qualify for operating licences. The package of Brexit agreements, agreed between the EU and UK and endorsed on Sunday, includes no reference to reforms of ownership rules.
To date IAG has done little more than mention that it has “contingency plans” for Brexit, the response on the issue from Antonio Vázquez Romero, IAG chairman. However, its articles of association allow it to strip non-EU shareholders of the right to attend, vote and speak at general meetings and to require them to sell the shares to an EU national within a number of days.
Sir Richard Branson owns 51 per cent of Virgin, making it majority UK-owned, but he is in the process of selling 31 per cent to Air France-KLM. US airline Delta owns the remaining stake.
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IAG ha problemi con IB piu' che con BA. D'altra parte, IAG e' una societa' spagnola con sede a Londra. Dopo il periodo di transizione BA operera' nell'ambito di un accordo UK-EU, come arolinea di un paese terzo. Se consideriamo che i voli da ORY sono stati passati a Level, BA non avra' piu' voli inter-EU e voli da EU a un paese terzo diverso dal Regno Unito; IB - invece - opera all'interno dell'UE
 

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US and UK agree post-Brexit open skies deal

The arrangement is one of nine bilateral agreements secured by the UK with other countries as it prepares for Brexit.

Britain and the US have agreed a new "open skies" deal for post-Brexit flights, the government has announced.

It means routes between the two countries - currently operating under the US-EU open skies treaty - will continue to enjoy the same access.
America's leading airlines have previously warned that flights could have been grounded if the UK left the EU's open skies agreement without making new arrangements.

The UK has also secured bilateral air service arrangements with Albania, Georgia, Iceland, Israel, Kosovo, Montenegro, Morocco and Switzerland, while discussions with Canada are at "an advanced stage" according to the DfT.

Meanwhile, under Theresa May's Brexit deal, London and Brussels have agreed to negotiate a "comprehensive air transport agreement" for UK-EU flights.

Transport secretary Chris Grayling said the UK-US agreement and eight other deals were "proof that the UK will continue to be a major player on the world stage after we leave the EU".

Under the deal, EU majority-owned airlines that are currently operating between the UK and US will be able to continue to fly existing routes as long as they remain owned and controlled by EU/EEA nationals or UK nationals.

But any airline wanting to establish a route between the UK and US in the future that is not owned and controlled by UK nationals will need to seek a waiver from the US government.

British Airways owner International Airlines Group is registered in Spain and has shareholders from around the world.

Meanwhile, Sir Richard Branson is in the process of reducing his stake in Virgin Atlantic to 20% by selling 31% of the business to Air France-KLM.

Aviation consultant John Strickland said: "It's positive news for UK airlines operating to the US market that this agreement has been reached.

"It appears that enough flexibility has been negotiated to allow for different scenarios of either UK or EU majority ownership, a point of importance for IAG, and for Virgin, which is in the process of becoming non-UK majority owned as Air France takes a stake."

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Sembra che sia legato alle rotte e alle linee aeree. Mi chiedo se un'eventuale destinazion non coperta da BA o VS debba avere un waiver speciale o solo una compagnia che attualmente non opera voli UK-US sia soggetta ai limiti sulla proprieta'
 

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Cosa succederà ai voli per Linate? Sono operabili da LIN solo per destinazioni nazionali , Unione Europea e Svizzera
 

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Tutto é organizzato all´ennesima potenza, i servizi sono veramente buoni, la gente é civile (anche se qui entriamo su un topic delicato sul definire "civiltá" o "ASSOLUTA osservanza delle regole tedesche ad occhi chiusi e senza ragionamento" tipico tedesco), la PA é futuro vero rispetto a quella italiana ecc ecc. Tutto vero. Ma la cittá é unicamente un mega enorme ufficio. Tra i colleghi la si chiama "Die grosse Firma" = "La grande azienda". É tutto basato sul lavoro. Offre poco per quanto concerne il tempo libero, togliendo il quartiere a sud del fiume "Sachsenhausen" e "Bornheim" , praticamente il vuoto. Naturalmente questo é un parere personale, che non pretende di essere veritá. Per quanto riguarda il meteo, beh diciamo da maggio a settembre si sta bene. Ma adesso "winter is coming"...e fino ad aprile auf wiedersehen al sole.
la coperta è corta per tutti. Non ho mai visto un posto sul pianeta terra che offra tutto di tutto. Se c'è qualcosa manca qualcos'altro. E' cosi anche per le genti. Ed è del tutto naturale che sia cosi.
 

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UK and Canada conclude post-Brexit open skies agreement

The UK has concluded a new air services agreement with Canada to allow for uninterrupted services between the two countries after Brexit.
Canadian transport minister Marc Garneau says the new agreement will allow any number of Canadian and British carriers to operate between both countries and gives those airlines "full flexibility" on route selection, including via third countries, frequency of service, and pricing.
The agreement also includes "unrestricted rights" for all-cargo services as well as codeshare services.
The Canadian government says the UK is the country's third largest air travel market.
UK transport secretary Chris Grayling says the UK will continue to enjoy the same access they is currently enjoyed with Canada through the EU open skies agreement.
"This new aviation agreement between the UK and Canada will further strengthen the strong economic and cultural bonds shared between our countries," he says.
FlightGlobal schedules data indicates that Air Canada is the largest carrier by seat capacity operating between the UK and Canada. On routes from London to cities in Canada, the national flag carrier has with more than 60% share, while British Airways has a 23% share, followed by Westjet with almost 10% and Air Transat with just under 7%.
The deal comes just days after the UK struck a post-Brexit aviation agreement with the USA. FG

 

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Nel frattempo teresona rimanda il voto in parlamento perché non ha una maggioranza favorevole all'accordo raggiunto con la UE. Aumentano le prospettive di un "no deal" con tutte le conseguenze del caso.
 

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Nel frattempo teresona rimanda il voto in parlamento perché non ha una maggioranza favorevole all'accordo raggiunto con la UE. Aumentano le prospettive di un "no deal" con tutte le conseguenze del caso.
Non vedo l'ora di leggere del referendum di Irlanda del Nord e Scozia per lasciare il Regno Unito.
 

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Io invece temo che in caso di Hard Brexit potrebbe venir riaperto qualche deposito d'armi "dimenticato" ai tempi degli accordi di pace irlandesi..
 

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Troveranno qualche modo di risolvere la questione backstop, probabilmente in maniera infima. A leggere i commentari politici, la durata del backstop é il problema principale. Comunque, gli ultimi giorni sono stati una pagliacciata infima, roba che Giggino o' Diversamente Studiato in confronto é Von Metternich. Su tutti la mia preferita é Amber Rudd, quella cretina che qualche mese fa voleva costringere le compagnie inglesi a rivelare quanti immigrati, e di quali nazionalità, hanno in organico, finché qualcuno non le ha mostrato le pagine di Wikipedia sulle leggi razziali in Germania e Italia. Ieri, o ieri l'altro chi se lo ricorda più, 'sta fenomena - mentre tutto il governo ripete il mantra "non c'é altro deal all'infuori del deal, e Theresona é il suo profeta" - questa se ne esce dicendo "Mah, il metodo Norvegia mi piace". Quello dell'unione doganale, libera circolazione, pagamento all'UE, mutismo e rassegnazione, quello che un gruppo di studiosi norvegesi chiama "Fax democracy", nel senso che da Bruxelles arriva(va, ora spero usino DropBox) il fax con le nuove direttive, e i vichinghi le inserivano paro paro nel loro ordinamento.

Questo per dire il livello.
 

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Troveranno qualche modo di risolvere la questione backstop, probabilmente in maniera infima. A leggere i commentari politici, la durata del backstop é il problema principale. Comunque, gli ultimi giorni sono stati una pagliacciata infima, roba che Giggino o' Diversamente Studiato in confronto é Von Metternich. Su tutti la mia preferita é Amber Rudd, quella cretina che qualche mese fa voleva costringere le compagnie inglesi a rivelare quanti immigrati, e di quali nazionalità, hanno in organico, finché qualcuno non le ha mostrato le pagine di Wikipedia sulle leggi razziali in Germania e Italia. Ieri, o ieri l'altro chi se lo ricorda più, 'sta fenomena - mentre tutto il governo ripete il mantra "non c'é altro deal all'infuori del deal, e Theresona é il suo profeta" - questa se ne esce dicendo "Mah, il metodo Norvegia mi piace". Quello dell'unione doganale, libera circolazione, pagamento all'UE, mutismo e rassegnazione, quello che un gruppo di studiosi norvegesi chiama "Fax democracy", nel senso che da Bruxelles arriva(va, ora spero usino DropBox) il fax con le nuove direttive, e i vichinghi le inserivano paro paro nel loro ordinamento.

Questo per dire il livello.
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Il livello medio di competenza dei parlamentari della 'madre di tutti i parlamenti' e' infimo da un governo che bada di piu' all'ala estremista del partito al partito principale di opposizione che non fa il suo lavoro perche' e' convinto che alle prossime elezioni andra' al governo e quindi cerca di provocarle
 

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Nel frattempo sono state rese note le linee guida nel caso (il correttore del telefono, giustamente, proponeva la grafia “caos”) di un No Deal, con 14 misure concernenti otto settori, fra cui i trasporti.

“Among other things, the measures would temporarily allow [...] British airlines to operate flights into and out of the EU but not within it”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46617152

Qui il comunicato ufficiale della Commissione:

“[...] The Commission has today adopted two measures that will avoid full interruption of air traffic between the EU and the UK in the event of no deal. These measures will only ensure basic connectivity and in no means replicate the significant advantages of membership of the Single European Sky. This is subject to the UK conferring equivalent rights to EU air carriers, as well as the UK ensuring conditions of fair competition.

-A proposal for a Regulation to ensure temporarily (for 12 months) the provision of certain air services between the UK and the EU.

-A proposal for a Regulation to extend temporarily (for 9 months) the validity of certain aviation safety licences.”

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-6851_en.htm
 

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Credo che l'unica esposta sia BMI Express che fa voli in Germania. FR e' irlandese, U2 ha un COA austriaco, basta che passi i voli da U2 al COA austriaco. Credo che il vlo ORY-JFK non sia piu' operato da BA ma da Level (compagnia spagnola). Quindi cambia veramente poco e gli aerei non staranno a terra il 30/3/2019
 

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Credo che l'unica esposta sia BMI Express che fa voli in Germania. FR e' irlandese, U2 ha un COA austriaco, basta che passi i voli da U2 al COA austriaco. Credo che il vlo ORY-JFK non sia piu' operato da BA ma da Level (compagnia spagnola). Quindi cambia veramente poco e gli aerei non staranno a terra il 30/3/2019
Per la UE non importa dove hai il COA ma la nazionalità degli azionisti di maggioranza. Non so come la vedrà sullo stesso punto la UK dopo la Brexit, ma quello che è ovvio che una società molto difficilmente può essere contemporanemante comunitaria e britannica. Questo vale per U2 (salvo improbabili operazioni modello U2 Swiss) e soprattutto per il gruppo IAG.