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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

    Piu' lo stop ai MAX si prolunga piu' i problemi a cascata si ripercuotono anche sui fornitori di Boieng e sull' indotto oltre che sui clienti.

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    https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/0...ocess-737-max/

    FAA Officials Refute Criticism of Certification Process for 737 MAX

    Top FAA officials told U.S. senators during a hearing Wednesday that their oversight of the process for certifying the Boeing 737 MAX was as stringent as it is for every other new airplane design the agency has presided over.

    During a Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing, lawmakers accused FAA officials of being too lenient on the certification process involved with the aircraft that killed 346 people in separate crashes operated by Lion Air in October and Ethiopian Airlines in March. Senators repeatedly referenced a recent investigative report published by The New York Times accusing the FAA of being more in favor of helping Boeing meet its production timeline rather than requiring certain design improvements.

    “We do not and never have allowed self certification, whether its Boeing or anyone else,” Carl Burleson, the FAA’s deputy acting administrator, told senators during the hearing. “While the process of delegation is long standing, and has been a critical part to producing the safety record we have in the United States—it is not perfect.”

    Certification of the MAX was a five-year process requiring more than 110,000 hours of engineering and test pilot work, including 297 test flights, according to Burleson’s testimony.

    But senators still had questions, including why the agency decided against requiring Boeing to feature a detailed description of how MCAS works in the computer-based, non-flight simulator training that was required to prepare pilots for transitioning from the previous generation 737 to the MAX.

    Ali Bahrami, the FAA’s head of safety, said that determination was made by a group that includes FAA and commercial airline pilots. Bahrami said the group determined that computer-based training was sufficient for pilots to transition from the NG to the MAX, but now admits they should have provided a deeper understanding of how MCAS works to new MAX pilots.

    “We should have included more description in the computer-based training in order to explain what MCAS is,” Bahrami said.

    Bahrami also discussed some of the information about the Ethiopian and Lion Air pilot actions during the two separate accidents. In the ET302 preliminary report, the Ethiopian Civil Aviation Authority’s investigators found that erroneous angle-of-attack (AOA) information from a faulty sensor on the MAX made the MCAS system override pilot attempts to right the jet’s trajectory, pitching it toward the ground in similar fashion to the Lion Air crash.

    While the captain of that flight, Yared Getachew, had more than 8,000 hours of flight experience, the first officer Ahmed Nur Mohammod had 200 hours.

    “I do not want to pass judgement on the qualification of the pilots that were on those flights, but I will say the review of the [flight data recorder] FDR and parameter information and what we know, the actions they took was inconsistent with what you would think would happen,” Bahrami said.

    Boeing is undergoing an extensive process to lift the grounding of the MAX, which has now spanned more than five months. Among those reviewing the software fix for MCAS are a collection of independent review groups, including civil aviation regulators from other countries.

    The Joint Authorities Technical Review (JATR) group, lead by former National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Chairman Christopher Hart, was also established by the FAA specifically to conduct a review of the certification of the 737 MAX’s automated flight control system. JATR includes experts from NASA and the civil aviation regulatory agencies of Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, the European Union, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore, and the United Arab Emirates.

    Although Burleson remains confident that the certification process the agency used to certify the MAX was sound, he is open to improvements in the future.

    “If there are improvements we need to make, changes we need to make, if there needs to be a different balance in delegation, we are certainly willing and ready to take those recommendations,” Burleson said.

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    https://airlinerwatch.com/american-a...of-its-planes/

    American delays phase-out plans for some of its previous generation planes
    Jul 31, 2019

    Dallas, Fort Worth - American Airlines has announced that it would make some changes in its phase-out plans for some of the Airbus A320s, Boeing 737-800s, and Boeing 757-200s.

    The announcement came during the presentation of the carrier's quarterly results. American had to take this decision due to the ongoing grounding of the Boeing 737 MAX jets and delayed deliveries of its Airbus A321neos.

    We have extended the operating life of some of our A320, 737, and 757 aircraft on a short-term basis. These extensions will allow us more flexibility as we deal with the grounding of the MAX and the late delivery of the A321neo and provide modest and efficient growth to our fleet,

    the Chief Financial Officer Derek Kerr said during the quarterly meeting.

    Airbus has so far delivered only five A321neo to American Airlines. The company has a further 115 copies on order, including 50 A321XLR, the newly launched extra-long-range single-aisle jet of the European aircraft manufacturer.

    The airline also has 76 737 MAX 8 in its order book with Boeing, American's 24 737 MAX 8, which were already received, are currently grounded because of the worldwide flight ban for the 737 MAXs.

    American's previous generation single-aisle fleet comprises 132 A319-100, 48 A320-200, 219 A321-200, 304 Boeing 737-800, and 34 Boeing 757-200.

    The current one McDonnell Douglas MD-82 and 27 MD-83 will permanently leave the airline's fleet in early September this year.

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    Quote Originariamente inviato da Casa Visualizza il messaggio
    Ma qualcuno mi può brevemente spiegare perché le aziende negli ultimi anni hanno ricomprato le proprie azioni, invece che investire? Quali sono i vantaggi?
    Talvolta i bonus di obiettivo ai "piani alti" sono legati al valore dell'azione. Inoltre per l'esercizio delle stock option (sempre comuni ai piani alti) il valore dell'azione è fondamentale.

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    ....It also reduced contract workers and cut overtime by half. ...
    Certo che se usano ancora gli staordinari e temporanei (ridotti è ben diverso da azzerati) mi aspetto che abbiano ancora dei margini su cui intervenire.

    CINIC MODE ON Magari potrebbero offrirsi come fornitori del MC21, magari si portano avanti. CINIC MODE OFF

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    In questo modo fai salire il valore di ogni singola azione posseduta dagli investitori. Il valore sale perché a parità di valore della società, ci sono meno azioni in circolazione. E' un alternativa al dividendo per distribuire valore agli azionisti, il perché venga scelta questa strada rispetto ad un altra, non lo so con certezza, almeno con la legislazione italiana subentra anche un fattore fiscale, se ho una minusvalenza non la posso compensare con il guadagno dovuto ai dividendi, mentre la posso compensare con un aumento del valore delle azioni (quando le vendo). Non so se questa modalità di tassare l'utile sia diffusa anche in altri paesi.
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    Talvolta i bonus di obiettivo ai "piani alti" sono legati al valore dell'azione. Inoltre per l'esercizio delle stock option (sempre comuni ai piani alti) il valore dell'azione è fondamentale.
    Grazie, era come sospettavo.
    Mi dà l'idea di essere un modo di fare impresa votato solo al breve termine.

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    Grazie, era come sospettavo.
    Mi dà l'idea di essere un modo di fare impresa votato solo al breve termine.
    Certo. Questa era la scuola di management di McDonnell Douglas che, purtroppo, s'è estesa a Boeing dopo la fusione.
    Are we there yet? Stories from the road.

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    Predefinito 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

    Segnalo BOE001 in volo adesso.
    Molto interessante vedere le variazioni di velocità e altitudine su FR24.

    L’ho visto salire a 3000 fpm con velocità scendere fino a 116 KIAS....

    Un volo test di quelli da cinture ben allacciate.
    Ultima modifica di Seaking; 5th August 2019 a 21: 02
    On ne voit bien qu’avec le cœur. L’essentiel est invisible pour les yeux (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry)

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    Segnalo BOE001 in volo adesso.
    Molto interessante vedere le variazioni di velocità e altitudine su FR24.

    L’ho visto salire a 3000 fpm con velocità scendere fino a 116 KIAS....
    Probabilmente sono partiti proprio dai limiti dell’inviluppo di volo

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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

    A 117 nodi è partito verso il basso con -3800 f/m, ma ha recuperato dopo circa 800 piedi di discesa: prova di stallo?

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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

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    Ieri Boeing -12,5%.
    Oggi: https://www.teleborsa.it/azioni-este...uQkE/contratti

    Male, molto male

    Visto che seguo questa passione da circa un paio di anni, vedendo UP che ha fatto da Gennaio ai primi di Marzo facendo un +25%, io non entrerei prima di 316/320. Mi sa tanto che storna.
    https://www.teleborsa.it/azioni-este...DkuQkE/grafico

    Airbus, resiste sui massimi, incremento dell'1,5%.
    https://www.teleborsa.it/azioni-este.../contratti?p=1

    P.S. Casualmente ho inserito come primo ingresso su Boeing il valore 316/320 Airbus A320
    Ci stiamo per arrivare , anche grazie a Trump. Questa volta sono riuscito ad azzeccarla. Un ultimo sforzo.
    Non mi seguite. Io rimango alla finestra. Ora a 325,xx
    https://www.teleborsa.it/azioni-este...uQkE/contratti

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    FAA Poised to Say Pilots Don’t Need Fresh 737 Max Simulator Training
    By Alan Levin and Mary Schlangenstein
    15 agosto 2019, 06:01 CEST
    Pilots could instead train on computers before flights resume
    Critics had demanded simulator training for grounded Max jet

    U.S. aviation regulators are increasingly convinced they don’t need to mandate new simulator training for pilots of Boeing Co.’s 737 Max before returning the grounded jet to service, according to people familiar with the discussions.
    Pilots would be required instead to take a computer-based training course they could perform at home or in a classroom, according to the people, who weren’t authorized to speak about the matter and asked not to be identified. More extensive simulator-based training for all 737 Max pilots may be required in the months after flights resume, the people said.
    Such a decision would help streamline the return of the plane linked to two fatal crashes and mired in multiple investigations and spare airlines millions of dollars in costs. But it would run contrary to demands by relatives of the victims and some pilots such as Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger, who crash-landed an airliner in New York’s Hudson River in 2009, and may make it harder to reassure a skeptical public of the plane’s safety.
    The Federal Aviation Administration hasn’t concluded its reviews of Boeing’s proposed software changes to the plane and current thinking could change, according to the people familiar with the discussions. An FAA advisory panel, which issued a preliminary finding in April that simulator training wasn’t necessary to return the plane to service, is reviewing public comments and also hasn’t reached a final opinion.
    “The FAA still hasn’t made a final decision,” said agency spokesman Lynn Lunsford. “It’s one of the many things we’re still evaluating.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-737-max-flies

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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

    Lo avrete gia' visto, ma sul Sole 24 Ore e' apparso un altro articolo che parla degli effetti economici della vicenda non solo per Boeing ma anche per la stessa economia USA:

    https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/boei...ia-usa-ACYpiYe

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    È un modo per dire che in usa finisce tutto a tarallucci e vino per salvare il didietro a Boeing? Forse ho inteso male, ma se fosse così le autorità europee e asiatiche hanno voce in capitolo o stanno mute?

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    È un modo per dire che in usa finisce tutto a tarallucci e vino per salvare il didietro a Boeing? Forse ho inteso male, ma se fosse così le autorità europee e asiatiche hanno voce in capitolo o stanno mute?
    Too big to fail.

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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

    https://www.forbes.com/

    How Airlines Are Defending Dormant 737 MAX Jets From The Ravages Of Corrosion, Insects And Time
    Jeremy Bogaisky
    Southwest Parks Grounded Boeing 737 MAX Planes At Remote California Airport
    Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 MAX aircraft at Southern California Logistics Airport.
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    Boeing 737 MAX planes have been stuck on the ground now for five months. With the likelihood rising that they won't return to service before the winter, some airlines may soon have to deal with the danger that the planes could literally become stuck to the ground.

    Tires of planes that are parked for long periods of time can freeze to the tarmac during subzero weather, warns a Boeing maintenance manual for the previous generation of 737 aircraft. It advises maintenance workers to place sand or a coarse fiber mat under the tires and covers over the wheels and brake assemblies to protect them from the corrosive effects of rain and snow.

    With the end of summer drawing closer, Air Canada is considering moving its 24 737 MAX jets south to the gentler climes of a desert storage yard, a spokesperson told Forbes. WestJet says it’s content to keep its 13 MAX planes in Canada, spooling up the engines every week and taking them for a spin on the apron around their hangars.

    Airlines have had 387 of the jets sitting quietly at airports and storage facilities around the world since March, when the second of two horrific crashes led aviation authorities worldwide to ground Boeing’s best-selling plane. Boeing is storing roughly another 200 that it has assembled but can’t deliver.

    Planes are built to move. Making sure these aren't damaged from their prolonged grounding has become the mission of a small army of maintenance staff. The longer the planes’ wings are clipped, the more needs to be done. Among the main tools, as prescribed by the 737 manual: copious amounts of yellow 3M vinyl tape No. 471 to seal off gaps and sensors, and an array of lubricants.

    Southwest Airlines, the largest operator of the 737 MAX, is storing its fleet of 34 planes in the dry heat of the high Mojave desert at an airfield in Victorville, California. Once a week, maintenance workers power up the Leap-1B engines, which their maker, CFM International, a partnership between General Electric and Safran, recommend should be idled for 15 to 20 minutes to vaporize any moisture that may have collected in the oil and fuel systems and to cover engine parts with a new coat of oil to prevent corrosion. Southwest technicians also boot up the flight computers and auxiliary power units weekly.

    The doors of planes stored in the desert are generally opened during summer days so the cabins aren’t damaged by the heat, says David Querio, president of Ascent Aviation Services, which operates at Pinal Airpark in Arizona, one of the largest aircraft storage yards in the world.

    Birds sometimes nest on a plane, and, rarely, an animal will take advantage of an open door to take up residence inside. “They’re removed the same day if they’re stupid enough to do that,” says Querio.

    As the timeline for the 737 MAX’s return has receded further over the past few weeks, some airlines could decide to put their planes into a state of deeper storage, with the engines preserved and batteries and other sensitive parts removed, says Tim Zemanovic, president of the Minnesota aircraft disassembly firm Fillmore Aviation. Because it requires fewer regular maintenance tasks, this type of storage generally runs half the cost of active storage, at roughly $1,000 a month per plane, he says, but it means it would take more time to ready the planes to fly again when aviation regulators sign off on Boeing's fixes for the 737 MAX.

    In long-term storage, the engines, the single most valuable part on an airliner, are “pickled”: The oil is drained and replaced with an oil mixed with a corrosion prevention solution, and desiccant bags—larger versions of the moisture-removing silica packets put in consumer goods—are placed in the inlets, with gauges that monitor humidity levels. Then the ends are covered to keep out the elements, animals and insects, says Zemanovic, who used to run a storage and maintenance facility at Pinal Airpark.

    When planes are dormant for more than two months, Boeing's 737 maintenance manual calls for gaps in the fuselage to be sealed with vinyl tape and screens placed over drain holes. A protective coating is sprayed onto unpainted metal surfaces. The cabins go dark, with the window shades closed and cockpit windshields covered with aluminum foil tape or other reflective material. Cotton covers are put over the seats and runners protect the carpets.

    Planes at a storage yard typically get visited at least once a day to make sure the exterior coverings are intact, says Querio.

    The 737 manual lays out a schedule of maintenance procedures to be done at regular intervals that’s heavy on lubrication of myriad parts.

    Every week the plane should be scanned for corrosion; every two weeks, electrical systems powered up for two hours. Every 30 days the plane should be moved a third of a wheel’s turn, to prevent the tires from getting flat spots; carpets and seats checked for mildew; and water drained from the sumps of fuel tanks to prevent growth of bacteria or fungi, which can have the consistency of mayonnaise and plug fuel filters.

    Every 90 days, the flaps, rudder and other control services need to be exercised.

    If the grounding extends to a year, the landing gear may need to be flexed, says Zemanovic, with the plane propped up on giant jacks placed under the wings and the nose. Boeing and Airbus recommend that some models should be restored to operating condition after a year before being shut down again, says Querio.

    Boeing expects aviation regulators to sign off on its fixes for the 737 MAX and a revised training regime early in the fourth quarter, but given previous delays and new technical issues that have arisen over the past few months, some industry watchers think the plane’s return to service could slip further. Southwest Airlines has taken the 737 MAX off its flight schedule till January 5; Air Canada has scrubbed the plane through January 8.

    A Southwest spokesman said that once the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration declares the model airworthy, the airline expects it will take 120 hours of work on each plane to get them ready to fly again, and 30 to 60 days for the airline’s whole fleet.

    One giant task: cleaning the planes. Dust can collect inside planes stored in the desert if the doors are vented, requiring a thorough vacuuming, says Zemanovic, and if the storage facility doesn't have a concrete wash pad with drains to properly dispose of large amounts of soapy water, workers may have no choice but to wipe down the plane by hand, a laborious process that he says could require a “couple hundred” man hours. Two necessities for the job: 27-foot high work platforms and a mammoth supply of cleaning wipes.

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    Pensavo che bastasse la naftalina...

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    Boeing hiring as it targets 737 MAX fights resuming 'early fourth quarter'
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    SEATTLE (Reuters) - Boeing Co said on Tuesday it plans to add extra staff and hire “a few hundred” temporary employees at an airport in Washington state where it is storing many grounded 737 MAX jetliners, a key step in its best-case plan for resuming deliveries to airline customers in October.
    The world’s largest planemaker, burning cash as one of the worst crises in its history stretches into a sixth month, said the workers will assist with aircraft maintenance and customer delivery preparations at Grant County International Airport.
    The hiring plans are the first publicly detailed steps Boeing will take as it works to deliver hundreds of grounded 737 MAX jets to airlines globally, an undertaking that would amount to one of the biggest logistical operations in modern civil aviation.
    Chicago-based Boeing has been unable to deliver any 737 MAX aircraft since the single-aisle plane was grounded worldwide in March after two fatal crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia killed 346 people, cutting off a key source of cash and hitting margins. Global airlines have had to cancel thousands of flights and use spare aircraft to cover routes that were previously flown with the fuel-efficient MAX, eating into their profitability. Many carriers have taken the MAX off their schedules late into the fall or early 2020. Boeing reiterated on Tuesday that it was working toward getting the 737 MAX flying again commercially in the “early fourth quarter” after it wins approval of reprogrammed software for the stall-prevention system at the center of both crashes. In late July, U.S. Federal Aviation Administration Deputy Administrator Dan Elwell declined to be pinned down on Boeing’s previously stated target of October for entry into service.
    “We don’t have a timeline,” Elwell said. “We have one criteria. When the 737 MAX has been - when the complications to it have been satisfactorily assessed, and the MAX is safe to return to service, that’s the only criteria.”
    Boeing said it plans to move all the aircraft from Moses Lake, an eastern Washington location where it runs test flights, to facilities in the Seattle and Everett areas where its factories are located.
    Hundreds of Boeing 737 MAX jets remain grounded worldwide, and Boeing has continued building the jets at a rate of 42 per month in the Seattle area. The U.S. planemaker is also storing freshly built aircraft outside its factories in Renton and Everett, around Seattle. It also has jets parked at a facility in San Antonio, Texas.
    The total cost so far of the 737 MAX crisis is more than $8 billion, mainly due to compensation the planemaker will have to pay airlines for the delayed deliveries and lower production.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1VA21J

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    Boeing faces first lawsuit from 737 Max customer

    Russian aircraft leasing group Avia sues to cancel order for 35 of the grounded planes

    A Russian aircraft leasing company is suing Boeing for breach of contract in connection with its grounded 737 Max in what is the first lawsuit brought against the US manufacturer by a customer over the safety crisis.

    Avia Capital Services, a subsidiary of Russian state conglomerate Rostec, claims two deadly crashes were due to the “negligent actions and decisions of Boeing” not just in designing a plane that was “defective” but also in “withholding critical information” from the US aviation safety regulator during certification. The complaint, which was filed in Cook county circuit court in Chicago on Monday, claims that Boeing “intentionally” failed to disclose information about the airworthiness of the Max to its customers, including Avia, in order to induce them to buy the aircraft. Avia ordered 35 Max 8 jets from Boeing before they were grounded worldwide in March, and now it wants the order cancelled. The company says it gave Boeing a cash deposit of $35m to secure the order, and is asking for that amount to be returned with interest, along with $75m in lost profits for a total of $115m in compensatory damages, plus “several times the amount” in punitive damages.

    Avia’s lawyer, Steven Marks of the Miami aviation law firm Podhurst Orseck, told the Financial Times in an interview that Boeing had offered compensation but it was inadequate. He said other Boeing customers had been in touch with him about bringing similar lawsuits. The Chicago-based aircraft manufacturer has been negotiating compensation deals with customers and it took a $4.9bn charge in the second quarter for that purpose.

    “I think you will see a number of other operators filing suit in coming months. This will be the first of many to come,” Mr Marks said. The lawyer is also representing 30 families of victims of both the Lion Air crash in October last year and the Ethiopian Airlines tragedy in March, which together killed 346 people. The fallout from those two crashes has damaged Boeing’s reputation and finances; the company posted its biggest quarterly loss in July. Boeing declined to comment.

    Even before the crashes, Avia and Boeing had agreed to delay delivery of 33 of the Max aircraft to the Russian company. Originally scheduled for delivery between October 2019 and February 2022, the orders were pushed back to between March 2022 and December 2024. The reason for the delay was not clear. While official investigations into the accidents are ongoing, an anti-stall system, the MCAS, which is unique to the Max, has been implicated. The system is designed to pitch the plane’s nose automatically downwards when it senses a stall is imminent, which it was found to have done repeatedly in both accidents. Boeing has been working on a software fix to ensure the system only activates once. It will also no longer be triggered by one sensor only. Dennis Muilenburg, Boeing’s chief executive, said in April that the company had “followed exactly the steps in our design and certification processes that consistently produce safe airplanes”. The company has said it expects the Max to start returning to service “early in the fourth quarter”.
    FT

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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

    United quest'oggi ha iniziato una staffetta per il riposizionamento dei suoi 14 MAX da Houston a Phoenix in vista dell'arrivo della stagione umida e degli uragani tipici del Golfo.

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    United quest'oggi ha iniziato una staffetta per il riposizionamento dei suoi 14 MAX da Houston a Phoenix in vista dell'arrivo della stagione umida e degli uragani tipici del Golfo.
    come li spostano? Comunque siamo gia' da un bel pezzo dentro la stagione degli uragani.

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    come li spostano? Comunque siamo gia' da un bel pezzo dentro la stagione degli uragani.
    Li mettono sui pallet e poi o camion o treno.
    Ma devono fare in fretta, prossima settimana arriva Dorian.

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    Semplicemente li fanno volare (sono 14) da HOU (9), IAH (3) e LAX (2) a GYR, permesso FAA accordato. Trasferimento completato entro 15SEP.

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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

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    Li mettono sui pallet e poi o camion o treno.
    Ma devono fare in fretta, prossima settimana arriva Dorian.
    Allora li hanno caricati col trasponder acceso: FR24 riceveva il segnale dellADS-B....

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    Predefinito Re: 737 MAX 8 Ethiopian si schianta subito dopo il decollo da Addis Abeba

    American joins United in extending Boeing 737 Max cancellations until December

    American doesn’t plan to fly its Boeing 737 Max planes until Dec. 3 and expects 140 flight cancellations a day in the month before.
    The move follows a similar schedule change by United.
    The Boeing 737 Max planes have been grounded since mid-March after two fatal crashes that killed 346 people.

    American Airlines is pulling the Boeing 737 Max from its schedules until early December, a month later than it previously expected, as the grounding of the troubled planes following two fatal crashes continues, sparking flight cancellations over Thanksgiving. The planes have been grounded since mid-March when regulators ordered airlines to stop flying passengers with them after two fatal crashes within five months of one another.
    American expects to cancel about 140 flights a day in November through Dec. 3, higher than the 115 it expects in the two months leading up to Nov. 3, the date it previously expected the planes to return to its schedules. Cancellations due to the Max grounding, now in its sixth month, have been rising because airlines had expected to have additional planes delivered. American had 24 of the 737 Max jets in its fleet at the time of the grounding in March and was supposed to have 40 by the end of this year. Boeing suspended deliveries of new Max planes after the second crash but is still producing them, albeit at a slower rate. The manufacturer expects the planes to return to service in the fourth quarter but has warned it could suspend production altogether if there are more delays. The manufacturer has developed a software fix for the jets after crash investigators implicated a flight control system in both air disasters, but it hasn’t yet been officially submitted and approved by regulators. Together, the two crashes ⁠— a Lion Air flight in Indonesia in October and an Ethiopian Airlines flight in Ethiopia in March ⁠— killed a total of 346 people.
    Regulators haven’t said when they expect to clear the planes to fly again. Even after they sign off, airline executives have said it will take more than a month for them to make Boeing’s software changes and to train their pilots.
    American’s decision to extend cancellations because of the Max, announced Sunday, follows a similar step by United Airlines, which on Friday said it would take the planes out of its schedule until Dec. 19. The latest changes mean the two airlines don’t expect to have the planes flying for the busy Thanksgiving holiday but that they would return in time for the Christmas travel period.
    Airlines that bought the jets have repeatedly pushed back the date when they expect to fly the planes again and have canceled flights months in advance, an effort to avoid travel disruptions for travelers and crews closer to the date of their flights. That has meant thousands of cancelled of flights during the busy summer travel season through most of the fall. The absence of the Max has driven up these airlines’ costs and dented profits.
    Southwest Airlines, the largest 737 Max customer in the U.S., removed the planes from its schedules until early January, and has said it would shrink this year, instead of expanding capacity as planned because it doesn’t have access to its Max planes. American noted that some flights it intended to operate with a 737 Max may not be canceled because it will swap out that plane for other aircraft. That also means some flights originally scheduled with other aircraft may be cancelled as the carrier reassigns those planes for high-demand routes.
    The fallout from the Max grounding comes as the carrier is dealing with other operational challenges. American has been feuding with its mechanics union, a dispute the airline says has caused hundreds of cancellations and long delays. Last month, Kerry Philipovitch, American’s senior vice president of customer experience, told reporters at an industry conference that the airline’s customer service team has been calling travelers who experienced multiple travel disruptions on American to apologize and in some cases offer frequent flyer miles as compensation. American said Sunday that it plans to contact travelers whose flights are canceled because of the new schedule changes and that those customers can rebook or request a full refund.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/01/amer...-december.html

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